Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 07:17:07 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?Because the civilians (and consequently criminals) don't have access to firearms. You're really only proving my point that police officers being armed isn't the issue, it's armed civilians.
Quote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?
Quote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.
Quote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for war
Question: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:00:32 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:19:49 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 07:17:07 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?Because the civilians (and consequently criminals) don't have access to firearms. You're really only proving my point that police officers being armed isn't the issue, it's armed civilians.Nobody should be armed in any globalised society. It's archaic. Unarmed police and unarmed civilians.See how that works out for you when 10 unarmed men decide to use you as a piñata
Quote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:19:49 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 07:17:07 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?Because the civilians (and consequently criminals) don't have access to firearms. You're really only proving my point that police officers being armed isn't the issue, it's armed civilians.Nobody should be armed in any globalised society. It's archaic. Unarmed police and unarmed civilians.
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:05:14 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 08:01:52 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:00:32 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:19:49 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 07:17:07 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?Because the civilians (and consequently criminals) don't have access to firearms. You're really only proving my point that police officers being armed isn't the issue, it's armed civilians.Nobody should be armed in any globalised society. It's archaic. Unarmed police and unarmed civilians.See how that works out for you when 10 unarmed men decide to use you as a piñataI've lived in a country all my life with unarmed men and unarmed police. Never had any problems at all actually, so yeah it's going good Good for you. Thousands of rape, murder, and robbery victims disagree with you though.
Quote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 08:01:52 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:00:32 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:19:49 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 07:17:07 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 07:09:33 AMQuote from: Septy on February 13, 2016, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: Kits on February 13, 2016, 01:07:12 PMQuestion: Does it make you feel safer knowing that the police officers do not carry/own guns?They don't need to because the average citizen isn't armed for warNeither are the citizens of any major European country, yet the police officers are armed.Now use that little fact of yours to compare how many civilians are murdered by American 'police' compared to European police officers. Since they're both armed and all the stats should be similar no?Because the civilians (and consequently criminals) don't have access to firearms. You're really only proving my point that police officers being armed isn't the issue, it's armed civilians.Nobody should be armed in any globalised society. It's archaic. Unarmed police and unarmed civilians.See how that works out for you when 10 unarmed men decide to use you as a piñataI've lived in a country all my life with unarmed men and unarmed police. Never had any problems at all actually, so yeah it's going good
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:08:31 AMOh, so you can speak on behalf of thousands of people you don't know? Wow! I never knew you had that authority!Actually if you carefully read what I wrote, you can clearly see I said they disagree with you. This is why pikeys shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. QuoteIn that case, I can speak on behalf of people too! I know millions of people that are not victims of any violent crime that disagree with you! Guess I win the numbers round! You don't, though. Unarmed police officers only encourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK.
Oh, so you can speak on behalf of thousands of people you don't know? Wow! I never knew you had that authority!
In that case, I can speak on behalf of people too! I know millions of people that are not victims of any violent crime that disagree with you! Guess I win the numbers round!
It's anarchy you sensitive gypsy, calm down. ]You're insulting yourself by using all these exclamation marks and throwing a hissy fit in Anarchy.
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:17:12 AMPikeys? Seriously, you're resorting to not only racismIt's anarchy you sensitive gypsy, calm down. Quotebut ad hoc?LOL FUCKING RETARDQuoteThat's just dissapointing really.AD HOCQuote"Unarmed police officers only encourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Nice baselss statistic you got there! Here's my counter :"Unarmed police officers only discourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Just as baselss and invalid as yours as a matter of fact!So you admit you have no argument. QuoteAnd why are you talking about the UK to begin with? I was referring to my own country in my first point from which this conversation stemmed.Because your shithole country is part of the UK, even the part that isn't officially part of the UK whether you like it or not. QuoteI look forward to your next reply where you call me other archaic racist names in the hope of validating your self! Can't wait to see what other abusive terms you come up with!You're insulting yourself by using all these exclamation marks and throwing a hissy fit in Anarchy.
Pikeys? Seriously, you're resorting to not only racism
but ad hoc?
That's just dissapointing really.
"Unarmed police officers only encourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Nice baselss statistic you got there! Here's my counter :"Unarmed police officers only discourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Just as baselss and invalid as yours as a matter of fact!
And why are you talking about the UK to begin with? I was referring to my own country in my first point from which this conversation stemmed.
I look forward to your next reply where you call me other archaic racist names in the hope of validating your self! Can't wait to see what other abusive terms you come up with!
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:24:20 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 08:21:12 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:17:12 AMPikeys? Seriously, you're resorting to not only racismIt's anarchy you sensitive gypsy, calm down. Quotebut ad hoc?LOL FUCKING RETARDQuoteThat's just dissapointing really.AD HOCQuote"Unarmed police officers only encourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Nice baselss statistic you got there! Here's my counter :"Unarmed police officers only discourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Just as baselss and invalid as yours as a matter of fact!So you admit you have no argument. QuoteAnd why are you talking about the UK to begin with? I was referring to my own country in my first point from which this conversation stemmed.Because your shithole country is part of the UK, even the part that isn't officially part of the UK whether you like it or not. QuoteI look forward to your next reply where you call me other archaic racist names in the hope of validating your self! Can't wait to see what other abusive terms you come up with!You're insulting yourself by using all these exclamation marks and throwing a hissy fit in Anarchy.What's anarchy? Why are using caps lock? I never admited I have no arguement. The Republic of Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom. it is internationally recognised as an independant country.Pikeyland is England's bitch. independent*Armed police officers are a good crime deterrent, and cause little to no issues. America is a different story because there are neighborhoods which are practically warzones.
Quote from: challengerX on February 14, 2016, 08:21:12 AMQuote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:17:12 AMPikeys? Seriously, you're resorting to not only racismIt's anarchy you sensitive gypsy, calm down. Quotebut ad hoc?LOL FUCKING RETARDQuoteThat's just dissapointing really.AD HOCQuote"Unarmed police officers only encourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Nice baselss statistic you got there! Here's my counter :"Unarmed police officers only discourages crime, of which there is a lot of in the UK."Just as baselss and invalid as yours as a matter of fact!So you admit you have no argument. QuoteAnd why are you talking about the UK to begin with? I was referring to my own country in my first point from which this conversation stemmed.Because your shithole country is part of the UK, even the part that isn't officially part of the UK whether you like it or not. QuoteI look forward to your next reply where you call me other archaic racist names in the hope of validating your self! Can't wait to see what other abusive terms you come up with!You're insulting yourself by using all these exclamation marks and throwing a hissy fit in Anarchy.What's anarchy? Why are using caps lock? I never admited I have no arguement. The Republic of Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom. it is internationally recognised as an independant country.
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:34:36 AMThe Republic of Ireland is it's own country. It has it's own government and state which is internationally recognised.That's nice. It's still run England and British banks. Quote"Armed police officers are a good crime deterrent, and cause little to no issues." citation needed.No, I'm not wasting my time on that with you. I've lived in European countries and they all have far less crime than the the shithole that is the UK, and ALL the police officers are armed. You're going to respect a police officer with a gun telling you to stop running more than an unarmed police officer telling you to stop running. Shit, you may just take on the unarmed police officer. Quote"America is a different story because there are neighborhoods which are practically warzones."I agree completely, that's why I said owning guns is archaic, because it is.I'm not talking about civilian ownership you dipshit. I'm talking about armed police. But if you want to talk about civilians owning guns, you can find countless stories of people defending their homes from rapists, murderers, and robbers. Quotethe fact that you need guns in a society proves it is not functioning correctly. And as you described it aptly, there are neighborhoods which are 'warzones'. A perfect sign of a country being run well.I'm not discussing if one country is being run better than other, I'm saying police should be armed. And if you're going to get all pretentious and act like the shithole known as the UK is run better than America, read this http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=United+States&city2=New+York%2C+NY
The Republic of Ireland is it's own country. It has it's own government and state which is internationally recognised.
"Armed police officers are a good crime deterrent, and cause little to no issues." citation needed.
"America is a different story because there are neighborhoods which are practically warzones."I agree completely, that's why I said owning guns is archaic, because it is.
the fact that you need guns in a society proves it is not functioning correctly. And as you described it aptly, there are neighborhoods which are 'warzones'. A perfect sign of a country being run well.
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 08:53:51 AMYou posted a graph about the UK? I'm not talking about the UK, I never was. I'm talking about Ireland.LOLThere's practically no difference when it comes to crime. You guys just have goofier accents. Culturally and in terms of carrying weapons it's pretty much the same. Germany has armed police officers. So does Spain. And France. They have very little problems with police hurting anybody innocent. QuoteActually, you didn't mention Ireland once in that entire post, only the UK. Which, once again, has nothing to do with my arguement. Ireland is part of the UK. Even the "independant" part. QuoteAnd Ireland is run by German banks, (ECB) not British Banks.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/8141618/British-banks-have-140-billion-exposure-to-Irelands-economic-crisis.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/3124726/British-banks-operating-in-Ireland-could-soon-enjoy-unlimited-guarantee.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9813358/British-taxpayers-funded-Irelands-14bn-bail-out.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330417/UK-needs-Dublin-bailout-Britains-banks-owed-88BILLION-Ireland.html
You posted a graph about the UK? I'm not talking about the UK, I never was. I'm talking about Ireland.
Actually, you didn't mention Ireland once in that entire post, only the UK. Which, once again, has nothing to do with my arguement.
And Ireland is run by German banks, (ECB) not British Banks.
Quote from: OnionBeetle on February 14, 2016, 09:22:41 AMThe Republic of Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom. It is a sovereign country. The United Kingdom has no political power over our sovereign nation.Not officially, no. QuoteWe owe more to German Banks than British Banks. Therefore, it is more logical to say that we are running on that which have a greater stake in our finances. In this case Germany.Owing more to Germany does not somehow erase the fact that your independent country owes an astronomical amount to Britain. QuoteThe fact that you used the Daily Mail (A notoriously low-brow tabloid) as a source is, quite honestly, embarassing.The only thing embarrassing here is how desperately you're trying to prove me wrong but you provide no sources, statistics, or numbers of any kind and that you consider being more of Germany's property and less Britain's property as respectable. You've done nothing but spout dogmatic nonsense. Go back to shitposting kiddo.
The Republic of Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom. It is a sovereign country. The United Kingdom has no political power over our sovereign nation.
We owe more to German Banks than British Banks. Therefore, it is more logical to say that we are running on that which have a greater stake in our finances. In this case Germany.
The fact that you used the Daily Mail (A notoriously low-brow tabloid) as a source is, quite honestly, embarassing.
Also, address all of my points. Stop cherry picking. I used the telegraph for three of my sources and the daily mail as one, either way they're all factually correct. These aren't opinion pieces. This is just laughable.
Now sheriffs? I'll feel safe around them all day.
Quote from: Luciana on February 14, 2016, 03:55:34 AMNow sheriffs? I'll feel safe around them all day.Not after being unjustly harassed, but I guess that comes with profiling.
oh god how do the people of the uk tolerate this
