What stops perverts from getting it changed if it's so simple. If it's easy, then perverts can easily abuse it, if it's hard, then you're putting undue burden on trans people.
And some people's ideas of out of the ordinary are not something that need to be entertained.
Many are. This did nothing to address the point.
They've proven quite willing to enforce these policies, even on cis women.
You can't always just tell whether a person who looks like a man in the bathroom is trans or pretending to be without calling the police on them. "Oh he can't be a pervert, perverts get punished" is delusional level thinking. Is that going to matter to a woman at the moment? When she's unsure whether this 200 pound bearded dude who can clearly overpower her is standing there? Is she going to care "oh well whatever he does he can be punished for it", or is she going to genuinely feel uncomfortable? In which case she of course then contacts the police to verify this situation.And so is how transmen are never able to use the bathroom without dealing with the police again.
Unsurprisingly to no ill effects or notable patterns of crime.But hypotheticals are of more importance than reality to those supporting these bills.
Really? I've seen examples where that was attempted, not once where it was held up.
It doesn't protect them. Criminal behavior is still punished. Somehow you act as if there is some magic act rapists can perform to simultaneously conduct criminal behavior while not conducting criminal behavior. If some dude goes in there and looks every woman in the eye as they leave the stall and he licks his lips, that's sexual harassment and he can get arrested. I don't understand what mental gymnastics you're pulling.
You know, 'don't ask, don't tell' worked pretty nicely for people picking a toilet before.Look like a girl, go in the ladiesLook like a bloke, go in the gentsWhichever side of this fired the first shot opened pandora's bloody box because now you either have the assumption that molesters are pouring into lavatories or you have to find some way of determining if 'that lady' is actually a man or visversa.
I really think NC is being irrational and trying to chase a boogeyman that isn't there. Out of the measly 3.8% of American citizens that identify as LGBT, only 0.3% is Trans, what are the absolute chances that you're going to walk into a restroom with someone that may not be the same birth sex as you? Also, this REALLY belongs in Serious.
]I don't understand why you still think I ever implied you weren't able to debate this topic because I never once said anything of the sort. I've already explained that once, did you not see? Why even try to make that point again?My original statement was directed at no specific person. It was a general statement, ergo the reason I specifically said, "people," not, "Dissonance."You're taking this too personally, It's pretty irrational. If you manage to spin this around as, "I'm not allowed to?" again then I'd possibly be inclined to say that it's purposefully irrational.
So go tell your shithead state legislators and various school boards to comply with Title IX
I was thinking these things at first, but honestly, we have a justice system for a reason. However shitty it may be, it won't allow men to enter the women's restroom and be a complete creep without punishment. Besides, this stuff already happens. In fact, a girl I know had a man follow her into the bathroom, LOCK THE DOOR, and almost raped her. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to come up with a better argument against this law than "now rapists can rape people legally". It's just nonsensical. Rape is still illegal, stalking is stil illegal. Get a grip and let's be adults about this.
for whatgoing in the bathroom or rapecrimes they committed inside will still be crimes
Yawn, I feel bad for the people with daughters.Catering to the 0.2% of the population because we are afraid of being labeled "bigoted" is a fucking joke. Trans people have a legit mental illness and are being coddled instead of treated. I love North Carolina for doing this. Actually just changed my plans of going to Myrtle Beach this summer, and am now booking a vacation in the Outer Banks instead. Take all my tourist money you great state.
Why should NC abandon its evangelical culture
Quote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:08:14 PMWhy should NC abandon its evangelical cultureLawmakers in NC, or any state, should subside their evangelical beliefs while at work, because there's that crazy new act called the separation of church and state.
Quote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:09:54 PMYou do realize you'll have to bow when the Supreme Court eventually takes it up and more than likely rules in favor of the left.And then you'll realize everything is literally the same because until it was made a law, no one cared.It's mostly symbolic. It's pretty obvious these fights can't be won without secession, and that would never happen.
You do realize you'll have to bow when the Supreme Court eventually takes it up and more than likely rules in favor of the left.And then you'll realize everything is literally the same because until it was made a law, no one cared.
Quote from: SecondClass on May 14, 2016, 01:10:51 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:08:14 PMWhy should NC abandon its evangelical cultureLawmakers in NC, or any state, should subside their evangelical beliefs while at work, because there's that crazy new act called the separation of church and state.The NC constitution actually requires elected officials to profess belief in a higher power.But then, as we all know, law doesn't tell us what is right or wrong, just what the rules are.
Quote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:12:44 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:12:18 PMQuote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:09:54 PMYou do realize you'll have to bow when the Supreme Court eventually takes it up and more than likely rules in favor of the left.And then you'll realize everything is literally the same because until it was made a law, no one cared.It's mostly symbolic. It's pretty obvious these fights can't be won without secession, and that would never happen.So you're saying the South WILL rise again?! I'm ready.Tfw no second uprising to finally overthrow the Northern oppressor.
Quote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:12:18 PMQuote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:09:54 PMYou do realize you'll have to bow when the Supreme Court eventually takes it up and more than likely rules in favor of the left.And then you'll realize everything is literally the same because until it was made a law, no one cared.It's mostly symbolic. It's pretty obvious these fights can't be won without secession, and that would never happen.So you're saying the South WILL rise again?! I'm ready.
Quote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:09:54 PMYou do realize you'll have to bow when the Supreme Court eventually takes it up and more than likely rules in favor of the left.And then you'll realize everything is literally the same because until it was made a law, no one cared.Principle does not care about outcomeYou don't get to do whatever you want because you're have a victimized mindset
Quote from: SecondClass on May 14, 2016, 01:10:51 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:08:14 PMWhy should NC abandon its evangelical cultureLawmakers in NC, or any state, should subside their evangelical beliefs while at work, because there's that crazy new act called the separation of church and state.The NC constitution actually requires elected officials to profess belief in a higher power.
Quote from: Luciana on May 14, 2016, 01:15:48 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:14:33 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 14, 2016, 01:10:51 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:08:14 PMWhy should NC abandon its evangelical cultureLawmakers in NC, or any state, should subside their evangelical beliefs while at work, because there's that crazy new act called the separation of church and state.The NC constitution actually requires elected officials to profess belief in a higher power.But then, as we all know, law doesn't tell us what is right or wrong, just what the rules are.That's really stupidYeah I don't see much point in it myself, but it was written way back in the day. It isn't even enforced as far as I know.
Quote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:14:33 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 14, 2016, 01:10:51 PMQuote from: HERE COME DAT BOI on May 14, 2016, 01:08:14 PMWhy should NC abandon its evangelical cultureLawmakers in NC, or any state, should subside their evangelical beliefs while at work, because there's that crazy new act called the separation of church and state.The NC constitution actually requires elected officials to profess belief in a higher power.But then, as we all know, law doesn't tell us what is right or wrong, just what the rules are.That's really stupid