Quote from: DemonicChronic on May 05, 2015, 11:25:50 AMWell technically your brain is under the influence of substances essentially always due to the things everyone ingests. ugh, i knew someone was gonna try to bring this stupid-ass shit upspare me
Well technically your brain is under the influence of substances essentially always due to the things everyone ingests.
Taking it as merely, "Everything is a substance so just injest whatever you want to," says to me that you're not getting what I'm trying to convey. Which is fine, I wouldn't expect you to, as opinionated as you are. It's not surprising you'd think I'd be using such a fact to condone drug use even though I explicitly stated that I wasn't.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on May 05, 2015, 11:37:54 AMTaking it as merely, "Everything is a substance so just injest whatever you want to," says to me that you're not getting what I'm trying to convey. Which is fine, I wouldn't expect you to, as opinionated as you are. It's not surprising you'd think I'd be using such a fact to condone drug use even though I explicitly stated that I wasn't.then what was your pointto tell me something that i already knowhence, "spare me"thank you
Quote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2015, 11:40:31 AMQuote from: DemonicChronic on May 05, 2015, 11:37:54 AMTaking it as merely, "Everything is a substance so just injest whatever you want to," says to me that you're not getting what I'm trying to convey. Which is fine, I wouldn't expect you to, as opinionated as you are. It's not surprising you'd think I'd be using such a fact to condone drug use even though I explicitly stated that I wasn't.then what was your pointto tell me something that i already knowhence, "spare me"thank youYou seem pretty adamant about limiting influence on your perception. The point I was trying to make is that it is wise to understand that influence as the necessity it is.I'm not a mind reader, I wouldn't know whether or not you understood that.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on May 05, 2015, 11:46:03 AMQuote from: Verbatim on May 05, 2015, 11:40:31 AMQuote from: DemonicChronic on May 05, 2015, 11:37:54 AMTaking it as merely, "Everything is a substance so just injest whatever you want to," says to me that you're not getting what I'm trying to convey. Which is fine, I wouldn't expect you to, as opinionated as you are. It's not surprising you'd think I'd be using such a fact to condone drug use even though I explicitly stated that I wasn't.then what was your pointto tell me something that i already knowhence, "spare me"thank youYou seem pretty adamant about limiting influence on your perception. The point I was trying to make is that it is wise to understand that influence as the necessity it is.I'm not a mind reader, I wouldn't know whether or not you understood that.It's healthy to have two minds of opposite spectrums in the world.
and its a fucking miracle that we passed that med. mj legislation at all. our governor is an incompetent thieving shitheel and did his best to keep marijuana out of our state. i hope nathan deal chokes and dies on his dinner tonight.in any case, i smoke weed.
Quote from: Azumarill on May 05, 2015, 12:09:17 PMand its a fucking miracle that we passed that med. mj legislation at all. our governor is an incompetent thieving shitheel and did his best to keep marijuana out of our state. i hope nathan deal chokes and dies on his dinner tonight.in any case, i smoke weed.and live in my state wow! yeah it's a revolutionary step for the south. Florida voted on it and it passed, here's a link:http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/
Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 05, 2015, 12:35:42 PMQuote from: Azumarill on May 05, 2015, 12:09:17 PMand its a fucking miracle that we passed that med. mj legislation at all. our governor is an incompetent thieving shitheel and did his best to keep marijuana out of our state. i hope nathan deal chokes and dies on his dinner tonight.in any case, i smoke weed.and live in my state wow! yeah it's a revolutionary step for the south. Florida voted on it and it passed, here's a link:http://www.mpp.org/states/florida/iirc they had a vote on recreational last midterm season and it failed because they needed a 60% supermajority and only got like 56% of something like that. gotta love the south.
Any incarceration should be in rehabilitation clinics and not just slinging them in the clink because they got hooked on the wrong substance. You don't jail alcoholics for being alcoholics, so why we throw drug addicts in jail is beyond me.
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Quote from: Mr Psychologist on May 05, 2015, 12:56:45 PMAny incarceration should be in rehabilitation clinics and not just slinging them in the clink because they got hooked on the wrong substance. You don't jail alcoholics for being alcoholics, so why we throw drug addicts in jail is beyond me. Weed isn't an addictive drug though, if you're not mentally unhealthy or predisposed.
For medical uses, I don't really have any problems. It's regulated and monitored that way, so that any risks are minimized and it can be beneficial to certain patients.Decriminalisation I am all for, throwing people in jail for being addicted to something is the same as a frontal lobotomy in terms of how useless it is for tackling the real problem. And yes hurrhurr camnaturr for saying lobotomy in the context of this Any incarceration should be in rehabilitation clinics and not just slinging them in the clink because they got hooked on the wrong substance. You don't jail alcoholics for being alcoholics, so why we throw drug addicts in jail is beyond me. But decriminalisation =/= legalisation. I don't think recreational use of substances is a good idea, in terms of scale it's important to note that yes cannabis isn't as toxic as heroin or Krokodil. For a cannabis specific point, the reason I wouldn't be for widespread usage boils down to the way it can cause predisposed schizophrenics to become schizophrenics. People with the natural predisposition towards it vastly outnumber those who show symptoms of it, it's not some doomsday event should the whole population turn into stoners (Well it would but that's another story) the issue being that with mental healthcare services already at breaking point suddenly having a massive increase in the number of cases of schizophrenia triggered by legal drug usage would not be a good thing.Most people, i.e those who are not predisposed should be able to use it with no problem. Those who are predisposed have the unfortunate luck to typically then go on and develop schizophrenia courtesy of the way that cannabis fucks with your dopamine levels (The desired effect - feeling good, comes in part from dopamine which is responsible for a lot of the positive symptoms in schizophrenia like hallucinations/paranoid delusions)For a more personal note, I think that you should be shot in the street for having a cannabis related gamertag. (Not seriously, but I find it pretty annoying in MP lobbies to be matched up with a pack of THC 420 BLAZE IT DAWGs <_<)
For a more personal note, I think that you should be shot in the street for having a cannabis related gamertag. (Not seriously, but I find it pretty annoying in MP lobbies to be matched up with a pack of THC 420 BLAZE IT DAWGs <_<)
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on May 05, 2015, 12:56:45 PMFor a more personal note, I think that you should be shot in the street for having a cannabis related gamertag. (Not seriously, but I find it pretty annoying in MP lobbies to be matched up with a pack of THC 420 BLAZE IT DAWGs <_<)WHAT ARE YOU TRYIN TO SAY BUB?
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on May 05, 2015, 12:56:45 PMFor medical uses, I don't really have any problems. It's regulated and monitored that way, so that any risks are minimized and it can be beneficial to certain patients.Decriminalisation I am all for, throwing people in jail for being addicted to something is the same as a frontal lobotomy in terms of how useless it is for tackling the real problem. And yes hurrhurr camnaturr for saying lobotomy in the context of this Any incarceration should be in rehabilitation clinics and not just slinging them in the clink because they got hooked on the wrong substance. You don't jail alcoholics for being alcoholics, so why we throw drug addicts in jail is beyond me. But decriminalisation =/= legalisation. I don't think recreational use of substances is a good idea, in terms of scale it's important to note that yes cannabis isn't as toxic as heroin or Krokodil. For a cannabis specific point, the reason I wouldn't be for widespread usage boils down to the way it can cause predisposed schizophrenics to become schizophrenics. People with the natural predisposition towards it vastly outnumber those who show symptoms of it, it's not some doomsday event should the whole population turn into stoners (Well it would but that's another story) the issue being that with mental healthcare services already at breaking point suddenly having a massive increase in the number of cases of schizophrenia triggered by legal drug usage would not be a good thing.Most people, i.e those who are not predisposed should be able to use it with no problem. Those who are predisposed have the unfortunate luck to typically then go on and develop schizophrenia courtesy of the way that cannabis fucks with your dopamine levels (The desired effect - feeling good, comes in part from dopamine which is responsible for a lot of the positive symptoms in schizophrenia like hallucinations/paranoid delusions)For a more personal note, I think that you should be shot in the street for having a cannabis related gamertag. (Not seriously, but I find it pretty annoying in MP lobbies to be matched up with a pack of THC 420 BLAZE IT DAWGs <_<)Valid point. Such as any annoying fanbase that shoves it in your face lol
Quote from: Pendulate on May 05, 2015, 10:45:32 AMThe gateway argument is the most compelling one against legalization I can think of, but I combatting the drug trade probably takes precedence.In Colorado where marijuana is legalized recreationally not only has the use of illegal drugs gone down, but their taxation on it has increased their economy.
The gateway argument is the most compelling one against legalization I can think of, but I combatting the drug trade probably takes precedence.
CBD-rich strains of cannabis is already legal in all 50 states in the US, as our lawmakers have finally realized that not all cannabis is the devil. Essentially, hemp plants and concentrated oils produced from hemp stalk can be purchased from secured online retailers who import their items from Europe, since it's still illegal to grow any cannabis in states where it hasn't been legalized locally. This is important because we now have safe access to the medicinal benefits of cannabis without needing a medical card.It's also important for me to point out that these specific products do not get you high when consumed. The amount of THC, the psychoactive chemical in cannabis, is so minuscule that no matter how much of it you consume you will not feel the high. It's strictly for the positive effects of CBD, the other chemical in cannabis, which include relief from pain, anxiety, and other types of psychological relief. http://www.projectcbd.org/news/cbd-misconceptions/ Yes, I do have personal experience with cannabis. Been an average user for almost a year now, but I have still managed to maintain numerous responsibilities and stressful periods throughout my transition into the adult world, so I wouldn't call myself a "drug abuser," but rather, a drug connoisseur.
still illegal in michigan, unfortunatelydespite my stance on legalization, i hate drugs, intenselyi've almost lost friends on numerous occasions over their drug usage, because that's how strongly i hate it