No offense Sandtrap, but you don't have a fucking clue about simple economics.

You get a bill in the mail that's asking for a price and it needs to be paid. You don't have the money to pay it. Interest piles up the longer you wait. What do you do?

Sell what you don't need to make the money you do need.

The reason I come off as caustic here is because 10 guns are not needed. That's a fact. Hobbies I can understand. I've my own hobbies that cost things too. You go hunting critters. That's your business. If it were me? I'd have sold the ones I didn't need, maybe keep the family heirloom, and keep the one you do need.

You put 3000 dollars away in a safe. To save up for something.

One day you're going to spend it right?

That's all money is. It comes in. And it goes out. And more often then not, more of it piles up and goes out than in. That's how I was raised. That's how my world works up here.

I live minimalistically under the simple rule of this.

If you want something, or you need to pay for something, then you go out and get the money for it, and spend it. Not cry over a loss of money because either way, at one point in time no matter what you make, it'll be spent.

I've paid every last one of my bills like this. Been close to the hole. But never in it. I'm in no debt. Just a rush to move when something breaks.

And I apologized to Brute. Guns are tools. Even if, they are hobbies. I don't own 10 different chainsaws for the job. I own one, and a spare. I don't own 10 different types of bikes for all the types of terrain here.

10 to me is excess when your hands are only ever going to use one for defensive purposes in any situation.

Call me a simpleton or short sighted if you want.

But if he makes that 1000 back as a refund, what's going to happen to it? It'll either go to buy another gun of the same price, tossed into a safe where it'll be spent later, or added onto a larger bill to pay for something.

Simple as that. It comes and it goes. And it does so very, very easily. Which is why he shouldn't be so upset about it. I mean I know it blows ass to have that happen. But from another standpoint, that 1000 would just end up going somewhere else anyway even if he got it back.

I mean, just look at it.

Spend to get gun.
Get money back from refund.
Money goes out to another source and is spent.

And that's it.

OK yeah but sandtrap the point is he was jipped off a thousand bucks.

He's certainly entitled to a refund and to spend it as he wants.

And so you don't have to read through a wall just to spot it, I do apologize Brute. Somebody steals your shit and doesn't give you your money back I know it's less than pleasant to just drop it and make some more on the spot to replace things.

It's an asshole thing to do but truthfully companies do shit like that all the fucking time.

Indeed they do man. Its just very strange that THIS happened. I have never heard of it before.

Either sit the fuck down and accept that you already spent 1,100 dollars to add to a pile of guns that will otherwise never be used for their intended purpose as a tool except for only 1 of them at a time, or if he's so flustered about it then make a compromise and sell some excess.

Simple.

Only drink water because any other variety is unneeded excess.  You can only drink one thing at a time.
Only buy one movie because others are excess.  You can only watch one movie at a time.
Only buy one song because the rest is excess.  You can only listen to one song at a time.

Do you realize how fucking ignorant you sound?  I get that you're a minimalist but Jesus Christ, dude.

Edit:  Also, it sounds to me that you suck with personal finances.

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 02, 2015, 01:26:54 PM

Either sit the fuck down and accept that you already spent 1,100 dollars to add to a pile of guns that will otherwise never be used for their intended purpose as a tool except for only 1 of them at a time, or if he's so flustered about it then make a compromise and sell some excess.

Simple.

Only drink water because any other variety is unneeded excess.  You can only drink one thing at a time.
Only buy one movie because others are excess.  You can only watch one movie at a time.
Only buy one song because the rest is excess.  You can only listen to one song at a time.

Do you realize how fucking ignorant you sound?  I get that you're a minimalist but Jesus Christ, dude.

Edit:  Also, it sounds to me that you suck with personal finances.

1. What other fucking kind of water variety is there? It's water.

2. Actually yeah. I own no movies. Rent em instead. And of course I watch them one at a time because why the fuck would I watch two at the same time?

3. I own no CD's. And generally, when I do listen to fucking music, I do play one song at a time.

I'm just saying. 10 guns is all. That's quite a bit when all you need is one to get the job done.

And I suck at finances.

Ok. Figure this one out scotty.

900 dollars a month to pay for the mortgage on the restaurant.
780 dollars a month for all utilities.
80 a month for town fees.
700 a month for food supplies to sell.
170 for gas.
130 for insurance on vehicles.
800 dollars to pay this month for a pepsi order.
1500 this month to replace a part for an oven.
1200 owed to replace a compressor on a fridge.
1400 owed for a part on the reverse osmosis machine.
320 a month for my prescriptions from the doc.
600 dollars to spend on this weekend at the city buying essential supplies.
200 a month for gas give or take the prices.

You have all this to pay at the end of the month.

And you make at an absolute maximum 1500 dollars a week.

A small percentage of that money is off records. Schimage. Rouhgly 50 dollars a day which is split in half to two people which goes into their respective savings accounts.

Your savings account is currently empty.

Tackle that for me.

Quote from: Jive Turkey on April 02, 2015, 03:58:50 PM

Brb I'm gonna steal bc's p1 and then tell him to sell the lambo and ferrari so he can get the money back

Imaginary money is hard to come by.

Well, you know, if we wanted to get super technical here. Money is an imaginary number with an imaginary value.

So what we really should be saying is.

BC has imaginary, imaginary money.

Quote from: Nexus on April 02, 2015, 05:03:25 PM

Why did I think this thread was about the new Fast and Furious.

wait the movie or the thing where the govt accidentally distributed arms to cartels.

The movie, I might be high as balls right now.

But I'm on a lot of meds lately.

Scrotum's cat essentially.

So you're like super high right now

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 02, 2015, 06:56:42 PM

But I'm on a lot of meds lately.

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 02, 2015, 05:32:59 PM

Scrotum's cat essentially.

So you're like super high right now

I said scrotums cat because I didn't feel like typing Schrodingers cat. My odd sense of humor again.

THROW THAT BOYPUSSY

Kill yourself.

Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:21:09 PM

Quote from: gats on April 02, 2015, 07:18:01 PM

THROW THAT BOYPUSSY

Kill yourself.

you're a faggot I thought you like boypussy

I cannot stand that word.

Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:22:32 PM

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Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:21:09 PM

Quote from: gats on April 02, 2015, 07:18:01 PM

THROW THAT BOYPUSSY

Kill yourself.

you're a faggot I thought you like boypussy

I cannot stand that word.

it's hilarious, say it out loud to yourself right now

I'd rather kill myself.

Now kill yourself.

Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:23:41 PM

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Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:22:32 PM

Quote from: gats on April 02, 2015, 07:21:55 PM

Quote from: DAS | Loli Soul on April 02, 2015, 07:21:09 PM

Quote from: gats on April 02, 2015, 07:18:01 PM

THROW THAT BOYPUSSY

Kill yourself.

you're a faggot I thought you like boypussy

I cannot stand that word.

it's hilarious, say it out loud to yourself right now

I'd rather kill myself.

Now kill yourself.

i wanna do something terrible first

You just did.