I have enough, it would make things easier thats for sure,  at the same time all it would give me is a little extra freedom. Personally, I make my own happiness, by doing things I enjoy, money normally doesn't get in the way of that.

It's not so much that I care or I'm trying to disprove that you have money or something, but it really doesn't add up.

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Quote from: Nυƙʌ 'Kʌʅ Vʌɾɢυɲ on March 03, 2015, 01:26:50 AM

An existence without happiness and suffering isn't much of an existence at all. In fact, it's hardly even a...human state of mind. You'd have to be pretty hardcore into meditation or something (or really drugged up) to achieve a state like that, I would think.

Well you have to consider what existence truly is, tbh. 'Being' without an ego doesn't necessarily equate to nonexistence when you realize that the ego is rooted in 'being'. I mean if consciousness did not exist then perception and conception couldn't manifest and thus no ego would ever form to give you an identity.

...okay you're just arguing pointless semantics there.

It has a very significant point for me as the logic behind it is what helps me understand the concept better. Was hoping it would help me convey it better as well.

I suppose the only thing I meant by that post is that an existence without suffering or happiness, whether or not it's a 'human' existence, is still an existence nonetheless.

God, you niggers are depressing.

^looooooooooooool

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Quote from: Nυƙʌ 'Kʌʅ Vʌɾɢυɲ on March 03, 2015, 02:18:09 AM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 03, 2015, 01:43:55 AM

Quote from: Nυƙʌ 'Kʌʅ Vʌɾɢυɲ on March 03, 2015, 01:26:50 AM

An existence without happiness and suffering isn't much of an existence at all. In fact, it's hardly even a...human state of mind. You'd have to be pretty hardcore into meditation or something (or really drugged up) to achieve a state like that, I would think.

Well you have to consider what existence truly is, tbh. 'Being' without an ego doesn't necessarily equate to nonexistence when you realize that the ego is rooted in 'being'. I mean if consciousness did not exist then perception and conception couldn't manifest and thus no ego would ever form to give you an identity.

...okay you're just arguing pointless semantics there.

It has a very significant point for me as the logic behind it is what helps me understand the concept better. Was hoping it would help me convey it better as well.

I suppose the only thing I meant by that post is that an existence without suffering or happiness, whether or not it's a 'human' existence, is still an existence nonetheless.

I didn't say that it wasn't an existence just not "much" of an existence. So that's why I said you're just arguing semantics.

Sorry, I learn more about this topic by looking at concepts from certain perspectives that require I try to understand them in a different way. As I said, I was only trying to help convey a point.

Which doesn't do much as a lot of the understanding of this subject has to really be gained on one's own since it deals with something that words can't exactly express in the most efficient way.

It's w/e. I shouldn't try to force anyone to get that point.  Especially in ways that aren't exactly simple.

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

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Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 03, 2015, 01:27:46 PM

There's some shady car places that'll rent to youngins.

Never heard of one, I've never rented a car

So you say.

I could've made an alt here when this site started and be like "hey guys I'm a millionaire check out this selfie of me in my rented Lamborghini" and who exactly is going to say it isn't mine? You supposedly got your money from trading, you can't trade while under the age of 18. And really, there's no such thing as getting some tips and guidance from a pro and getting rich in a year. My dad used to do that and he broke even by the end of the year which is considered a success in that industry for new traders, and Merrill Lynch was going to recruit him.

It's not so much that I care or I'm trying to disprove that you have money or something, but it really doesn't add up.

There's no age limit to play the stock market. You can be 10, theoretically, and invest.

Also, You can make a crazy amount of money, in about 30 minutes. It's complete luck, not saying I got it in that time frame, but it's possible

Uh, yeah there is. You need to be 18 years old.

No you can't. That's a myth. You can make a lot of money and it is indeed fast paced and you can make a lot of money in a small amount of time, but to make millions in 30 minutes, something drastic needs to have happened.

Honestly the fact you don't even know there's an age requirement for trading and you think you can make millions in 39 minutes really isn't leading me to believe you even understand how the economy works, let alone understand trading. Like I said, my dad did this for real and he was great at it. He taught me a lot about it. And I've learned a lot myself, and from what you're saying, you chose trading stocks as your story because it's something the majority of people think is a get rich quick scheme.

There isn't an age limit

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:22:19 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:21:35 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

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Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 01:29:17 PM

Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 03, 2015, 01:27:46 PM

There's some shady car places that'll rent to youngins.

Never heard of one, I've never rented a car

So you say.

I could've made an alt here when this site started and be like "hey guys I'm a millionaire check out this selfie of me in my rented Lamborghini" and who exactly is going to say it isn't mine? You supposedly got your money from trading, you can't trade while under the age of 18. And really, there's no such thing as getting some tips and guidance from a pro and getting rich in a year. My dad used to do that and he broke even by the end of the year which is considered a success in that industry for new traders, and Merrill Lynch was going to recruit him.

It's not so much that I care or I'm trying to disprove that you have money or something, but it really doesn't add up.

There's no age limit to play the stock market. You can be 10, theoretically, and invest.

Also, You can make a crazy amount of money, in about 30 minutes. It's complete luck, not saying I got it in that time frame, but it's possible

Uh, yeah there is. You need to be 18 years old.

No you can't. That's a myth. You can make a lot of money and it is indeed fast paced and you can make a lot of money in a small amount of time, but to make millions in 30 minutes, something drastic needs to have happened.

Honestly the fact you don't even know there's an age requirement for trading and you think you can make millions in 39 minutes really isn't leading me to believe you even understand how the economy works, let alone understand trading. Like I said, my dad did this for real and he was great at it. He taught me a lot about it. And I've learned a lot myself, and from what you're saying, you chose trading stocks as your story because it's something the majority of people think is a get rich quick scheme.

There isn't an age limit

The biggest obstacle to buying stocks is age. In every state in the United States, there is a minimum age to buy and sell securities like buy stocksstocks, bonds, etc. This is due to two reasons. The first is because states and brokers alike agree that children and minors generally aren’t capable of making good decisions involving securities and trading assets. (Some adults apparently aren’t, either, but that’s another issue altogether.)

The second is liability exposure. Brokers do not want to be responsible for the (probably poor) financial decisions minors can make through their systems, so they rightfully keep people who aren’t of age from trading.

What is this minimum age? It depends on the state. If you live in California, the District of Columbia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, South Dakota, Oklahoma, or Virginia, you can’t trade stocks until you reach the age of 18. For every other state, you have to be at least 21 years of age – and brokerages do verify the identity and age of each person attempting to open an account.

You can, however, get what is called a custodial account. This is an account that has the assets in the minor’s name, but the minor’s parents or legal guardians actually administer the account. The only people allowed to place orders for that account are those who are at least 18 years of age (or 21, depending on the state).

Three words, joint brokerage account. Theoretically you can be any age, as long as your paired with someone over the age of 18. Be it a parent or other adult.

The joy for me, is I was a part of a private investment firm and sponsored by the director. So I was fine in every way.

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:25:02 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:22:19 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:21:35 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 02:46:39 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 01:29:17 PM

Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 03, 2015, 01:27:46 PM

There's some shady car places that'll rent to youngins.

Never heard of one, I've never rented a car

So you say.

I could've made an alt here when this site started and be like "hey guys I'm a millionaire check out this selfie of me in my rented Lamborghini" and who exactly is going to say it isn't mine? You supposedly got your money from trading, you can't trade while under the age of 18. And really, there's no such thing as getting some tips and guidance from a pro and getting rich in a year. My dad used to do that and he broke even by the end of the year which is considered a success in that industry for new traders, and Merrill Lynch was going to recruit him.

It's not so much that I care or I'm trying to disprove that you have money or something, but it really doesn't add up.

There's no age limit to play the stock market. You can be 10, theoretically, and invest.

Also, You can make a crazy amount of money, in about 30 minutes. It's complete luck, not saying I got it in that time frame, but it's possible

Uh, yeah there is. You need to be 18 years old.

No you can't. That's a myth. You can make a lot of money and it is indeed fast paced and you can make a lot of money in a small amount of time, but to make millions in 30 minutes, something drastic needs to have happened.

Honestly the fact you don't even know there's an age requirement for trading and you think you can make millions in 39 minutes really isn't leading me to believe you even understand how the economy works, let alone understand trading. Like I said, my dad did this for real and he was great at it. He taught me a lot about it. And I've learned a lot myself, and from what you're saying, you chose trading stocks as your story because it's something the majority of people think is a get rich quick scheme.

There isn't an age limit

The biggest obstacle to buying stocks is age. In every state in the United States, there is a minimum age to buy and sell securities like buy stocksstocks, bonds, etc. This is due to two reasons. The first is because states and brokers alike agree that children and minors generally aren’t capable of making good decisions involving securities and trading assets. (Some adults apparently aren’t, either, but that’s another issue altogether.)

The second is liability exposure. Brokers do not want to be responsible for the (probably poor) financial decisions minors can make through their systems, so they rightfully keep people who aren’t of age from trading.

What is this minimum age? It depends on the state. If you live in California, the District of Columbia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, South Dakota, Oklahoma, or Virginia, you can’t trade stocks until you reach the age of 18. For every other state, you have to be at least 21 years of age – and brokerages do verify the identity and age of each person attempting to open an account.

You can, however, get what is called a custodial account. This is an account that has the assets in the minor’s name, but the minor’s parents or legal guardians actually administer the account. The only people allowed to place orders for that account are those who are at least 18 years of age (or 21, depending on the state).

Three words, joint brokerage account. Theoretically you can be any age, as long as your paired with someone over the age of 18. Be it a parent or other adult.

Right, so did you do the trading? Who paired up with you? Why? What did you do to make that much money that quickly that you bought a McLaren and a Lambo and have enough to buy a Ferrari?

It's quite an accomplishment and I don't see why you wouldn't brag about how you got it because that's an achievement you should be extremely proud of - if you did the trading and actually made the money and aren't renting cars. Personally I'd be interested to know what you did.

Lol, a little late for that now, isn't it?

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:31:12 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:26:21 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:25:02 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:22:19 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:21:35 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:16:22 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 02:46:39 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 01:29:17 PM

Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 03, 2015, 01:27:46 PM

There's some shady car places that'll rent to youngins.

Never heard of one, I've never rented a car

So you say.

I could've made an alt here when this site started and be like "hey guys I'm a millionaire check out this selfie of me in my rented Lamborghini" and who exactly is going to say it isn't mine? You supposedly got your money from trading, you can't trade while under the age of 18. And really, there's no such thing as getting some tips and guidance from a pro and getting rich in a year. My dad used to do that and he broke even by the end of the year which is considered a success in that industry for new traders, and Merrill Lynch was going to recruit him.

It's not so much that I care or I'm trying to disprove that you have money or something, but it really doesn't add up.

There's no age limit to play the stock market. You can be 10, theoretically, and invest.

Also, You can make a crazy amount of money, in about 30 minutes. It's complete luck, not saying I got it in that time frame, but it's possible

Uh, yeah there is. You need to be 18 years old.

No you can't. That's a myth. You can make a lot of money and it is indeed fast paced and you can make a lot of money in a small amount of time, but to make millions in 30 minutes, something drastic needs to have happened.

Honestly the fact you don't even know there's an age requirement for trading and you think you can make millions in 39 minutes really isn't leading me to believe you even understand how the economy works, let alone understand trading. Like I said, my dad did this for real and he was great at it. He taught me a lot about it. And I've learned a lot myself, and from what you're saying, you chose trading stocks as your story because it's something the majority of people think is a get rich quick scheme.

There isn't an age limit

The biggest obstacle to buying stocks is age. In every state in the United States, there is a minimum age to buy and sell securities like buy stocksstocks, bonds, etc. This is due to two reasons. The first is because states and brokers alike agree that children and minors generally aren’t capable of making good decisions involving securities and trading assets. (Some adults apparently aren’t, either, but that’s another issue altogether.)

The second is liability exposure. Brokers do not want to be responsible for the (probably poor) financial decisions minors can make through their systems, so they rightfully keep people who aren’t of age from trading.

What is this minimum age? It depends on the state. If you live in California, the District of Columbia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, South Dakota, Oklahoma, or Virginia, you can’t trade stocks until you reach the age of 18. For every other state, you have to be at least 21 years of age – and brokerages do verify the identity and age of each person attempting to open an account.

You can, however, get what is called a custodial account. This is an account that has the assets in the minor’s name, but the minor’s parents or legal guardians actually administer the account. The only people allowed to place orders for that account are those who are at least 18 years of age (or 21, depending on the state).

Three words, joint brokerage account. Theoretically you can be any age, as long as your paired with someone over the age of 18. Be it a parent or other adult.

Right, so did you do the trading? Who paired up with you? Why? What did you do to make that much money that quickly that you bought a McLaren and a Lambo and have enough to buy a Ferrari?

It's quite an accomplishment and I don't see why you wouldn't brag about how you got it because that's an achievement you should be extremely proud of - if you did the trading and actually made the money and aren't renting cars. Personally I'd be interested to know what you did.

I'm also kind of curious as to why something like this wasn't all over Forbes, Yahoo, et cetera. This would be a pretty big story.

I mean a kid making $300k hit national. Surely someone under the age of 18 making over a million would be even bigger.

I know a bunch of people around my age who are really wealthy by the same means, and you won't find it anywhere. You just have to know them to know. I don't go around preaching this, nor do I really care too. I just talk cars, not business or any of that.

If you hadn't noticed.

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:39:04 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 03, 2015, 03:36:28 PM

Quote from: BC on March 03, 2015, 03:26:21 PM

The joy for me, is I was a part of a private investment firm and sponsored by the director. So I was fine in every way.

You're saying a private investment firm hired you? Under the age of 18? What?

I wasn't hired off the bat. Shit, I failed miserably for the first few months, but I eventually broke even, got lucky, made a huge profit on my own call that he trusted, and the rest is history.

I became successful solely off luck, and association. I won't try and tell you I got it because I'm a genius, cause I'm not.

My point is how you were hired at all if you were under 18. It's one thing to open a joint account with someone, and it's quite different to be hired at a firm, where you'd be a trainee trader and wouldn't be in the position to make a lot of money quickly.

Because I expressed my interest, and he liked my principles. We kept talking and he offered to give me a grace period so I could learn how everything worked. From there on I got some money from my dad, and sold my original car. Basically lost all of that money through the learning process. He hired me after I started making money, and it increased exponentially as time went on because I kept getting things right. I was taking a lot of risks and I guess he saw something he liked so he eventually hired me. In the contract we made a deal that I won't discuss because it's hard to explain, the deal is what allowed me to make so much money (totally legal, by the way, I don't mean to make it sound sketchy, it really isn't I just don't feel like explaining.) After a while of working their I eventually resigned, but obviously still kept all my investments and my portfolio. So I'm still making money, just not working at a firm. I'm 18 now, as well. I will probably begin working their again once I graduate college, as he said I'm welcome to come back whenever I want.

Because I expressed my interest, and he liked my principles.

They hire stockbrokers on their character, nowadays?

Fuck me.

March 3rd, 2015. One minute past ten at night (GMT).

Such marks the time BC's story came crashing down.