Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 08:55:33 AM

Quote from: Noelle on November 19, 2014, 08:20:35 AM

Quote from: Nuka on November 19, 2014, 02:12:14 AM

And sorry Noelle, but since you came from the chair force, you don't have much room to talk. It might've been "just a job" for you, but you were also in the least labor intensive (and least dangerous) branch of the military. The Air Force also gets the best pay and benefits.

I'd like to see you say what you've said to a Marine and see if you don't get clocked in the face. FYI, Marines have it the hardest AND they get the worst pay/benefits.

You guys seem to have very, very little knowledge of the military. You have no fucking idea what I did in the military. Try calling it the Chair Force all you want, it makes you look ignorant, I had a very labor intensive and demanding job. Also in the military, your primary assigned job, is not your only job.

Every branch works on the same payscale. You are paid by your rank, no matter what branch you are in. Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not. The Air Force is just as demanding as any other branch, you have got to be fucking kidding me. There are quite a few office type jobs in the Air Force, and in every other branch, the military does not operate without those. Guess what I did in the military, Nuka? I worked in vehicle maintenance, working on a team to maintain and repair the bases's 700+ vehicle fleet. I also worked in exercises for weeks straight in 100+ degree weather, and I also helped with real world emergencies, such as getting large pumps ready and onto a C-17 to be sent to New York to help clear the water out after Hurricane Sandy. So you can go ahead and stop trying to shit on me and acting like you know anything about what I have done.

I have experience with the military, so you guys think that experience means nothing just because I am actually logical and know that people in the military do not just deserve respect for no reason. Every branch gets paid the same, every branch gets the same benefits. Benefits such as full medical/dental coverage, tuition assistance, housing, food, 30 days of vacation guaranteed annually. Some branches, such as the Navy, have more of an advantage if you are wishing to travel and live by the coast, but that is a perk of that branch, not a benefit.

That's all well and good, but a friend of mine and my dad's was in the Marines went to Afghanistan and saw a shit ton of action. He came home with PTSD because he saw his friends die and killed people himself. He couldn't go to sleep because he kept seeing the face of this kid he saw get blown up.

Don't even try to act like being a mechanic on a base compares to that in any way. That man did a service to our country, Afghanistan, and the world so when you start saying these people shouldn't be respected, I begin to take this personally. Because if the worst you've ever done is work hard in the sun, then shit, it doesn't even compare to what I've been through.

That man only served his country, he did not do a service to Afghanistan and he most certainly did not do the world a service. Just putting that out there.

Quote from: Kinder on November 19, 2014, 09:13:33 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:11:32 AM

Quote from: Kinder on November 19, 2014, 09:07:08 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 08:18:11 AM

And I though America was a "free" country?

I see no harm in this other than taking advantage of morons.

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 makes it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award

LMAO

You're joking right? Haha this keeps getting better and better.

So a person faking a disability or condition to get benefits isn't okay, but a person doing the samething but instead obtaining it via false pretenses of being military is okay?

Apples and oranges. All he did was wear a uniform and people willingly paid for his food, he didn't ask them to.
That is not the same as someone who pretends to have a condition for benefits.

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:10:44 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 08:55:33 AM

Quote from: Noelle on November 19, 2014, 08:20:35 AM

Quote from: Nuka on November 19, 2014, 02:12:14 AM

And sorry Noelle, but since you came from the chair force, you don't have much room to talk. It might've been "just a job" for you, but you were also in the least labor intensive (and least dangerous) branch of the military. The Air Force also gets the best pay and benefits.

I'd like to see you say what you've said to a Marine and see if you don't get clocked in the face. FYI, Marines have it the hardest AND they get the worst pay/benefits.

You guys seem to have very, very little knowledge of the military. You have no fucking idea what I did in the military. Try calling it the Chair Force all you want, it makes you look ignorant, I had a very labor intensive and demanding job. Also in the military, your primary assigned job, is not your only job.

Every branch works on the same payscale. You are paid by your rank, no matter what branch you are in. Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not. The Air Force is just as demanding as any other branch, you have got to be fucking kidding me. There are quite a few office type jobs in the Air Force, and in every other branch, the military does not operate without those. Guess what I did in the military, Nuka? I worked in vehicle maintenance, working on a team to maintain and repair the bases's 700+ vehicle fleet. I also worked in exercises for weeks straight in 100+ degree weather, and I also helped with real world emergencies, such as getting large pumps ready and onto a C-17 to be sent to New York to help clear the water out after Hurricane Sandy. So you can go ahead and stop trying to shit on me and acting like you know anything about what I have done.

I have experience with the military, so you guys think that experience means nothing just because I am actually logical and know that people in the military do not just deserve respect for no reason. Every branch gets paid the same, every branch gets the same benefits. Benefits such as full medical/dental coverage, tuition assistance, housing, food, 30 days of vacation guaranteed annually. Some branches, such as the Navy, have more of an advantage if you are wishing to travel and live by the coast, but that is a perk of that branch, not a benefit.

That's all well and good, but a friend of mine and my dad's was in the Marines went to Afghanistan and saw a shit ton of action. He came home with PTSD because he saw his friends die and killed people himself. He couldn't go to sleep because he kept seeing the face of this kid he saw get blown up.

Don't even try to act like being a mechanic on a base compares to that in any way. That man did a service to our country, Afghanistan, and the world so when you start saying these people shouldn't be respected, I begin to take this personally. Because if the worst you've ever done is work hard in the sun, then shit, it doesn't even compare to what I've been through.

That man only served his country, he did not do a service to Afghanistan and he most certainly did not do the world a service. Just putting that out there.

Protecting Afghani children from murderers isn't a service to Afghanistan? lolk

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:16:37 AM

Quote from: Kinder on November 19, 2014, 09:13:33 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:11:32 AM

Quote from: Kinder on November 19, 2014, 09:07:08 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 08:18:11 AM

And I though America was a "free" country?

I see no harm in this other than taking advantage of morons.

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 makes it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award

LMAO

You're joking right? Haha this keeps getting better and better.

So a person faking a disability or condition to get benefits isn't okay, but a person doing the samething but instead obtaining it via false pretenses of being military is okay?

Apples and oranges. All he did was wear a uniform and people willingly paid for his food, he didn't ask them to.
That is not the same as someone who pretends to have a condition for benefits.

Except if he wasn't wearing a uniform or said he wasn't actually in the military, people wouldn't have bought him food. If a person sees a pregnant women then they'll help her carry groceries or pick something heavy up because they see what she is going through, but if she wasn't pregnant and only pretending then she would get the same reaction from an imposter

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

Of course, one day you'll get con'd and you'll just let it slide because "it's not a big deal"

No, I'd be pissed. I'd confront the guy and settle it.

The point is, technically, he didn't steal anything. People bought him food. If I were dressed as Pikachu and people bought me food, why the hell should I go to jail just because these people willingly bought me food because they love Pokemon? What have I done wrong? Nothing.

He did do something wrong morally. But not illegal.

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:21:02 AM

Well that's what the Taliban was for, protecting their people from America.

This thread

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:21:02 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 09:19:37 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:10:44 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 08:55:33 AM

Quote from: Noelle on November 19, 2014, 08:20:35 AM

Quote from: Nuka on November 19, 2014, 02:12:14 AM

And sorry Noelle, but since you came from the chair force, you don't have much room to talk. It might've been "just a job" for you, but you were also in the least labor intensive (and least dangerous) branch of the military. The Air Force also gets the best pay and benefits.

I'd like to see you say what you've said to a Marine and see if you don't get clocked in the face. FYI, Marines have it the hardest AND they get the worst pay/benefits.

You guys seem to have very, very little knowledge of the military. You have no fucking idea what I did in the military. Try calling it the Chair Force all you want, it makes you look ignorant, I had a very labor intensive and demanding job. Also in the military, your primary assigned job, is not your only job.

Every branch works on the same payscale. You are paid by your rank, no matter what branch you are in. Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not. The Air Force is just as demanding as any other branch, you have got to be fucking kidding me. There are quite a few office type jobs in the Air Force, and in every other branch, the military does not operate without those. Guess what I did in the military, Nuka? I worked in vehicle maintenance, working on a team to maintain and repair the bases's 700+ vehicle fleet. I also worked in exercises for weeks straight in 100+ degree weather, and I also helped with real world emergencies, such as getting large pumps ready and onto a C-17 to be sent to New York to help clear the water out after Hurricane Sandy. So you can go ahead and stop trying to shit on me and acting like you know anything about what I have done.

I have experience with the military, so you guys think that experience means nothing just because I am actually logical and know that people in the military do not just deserve respect for no reason. Every branch gets paid the same, every branch gets the same benefits. Benefits such as full medical/dental coverage, tuition assistance, housing, food, 30 days of vacation guaranteed annually. Some branches, such as the Navy, have more of an advantage if you are wishing to travel and live by the coast, but that is a perk of that branch, not a benefit.

That's all well and good, but a friend of mine and my dad's was in the Marines went to Afghanistan and saw a shit ton of action. He came home with PTSD because he saw his friends die and killed people himself. He couldn't go to sleep because he kept seeing the face of this kid he saw get blown up.

Don't even try to act like being a mechanic on a base compares to that in any way. That man did a service to our country, Afghanistan, and the world so when you start saying these people shouldn't be respected, I begin to take this personally. Because if the worst you've ever done is work hard in the sun, then shit, it doesn't even compare to what I've been through.

That man only served his country, he did not do a service to Afghanistan and he most certainly did not do the world a service. Just putting that out there.

Protecting Afghani children from murderers isn't a service to Afghanistan? lolk

Well that's what the Taliban was for, protecting their people from America.

Ladies and gentlemen, the results of the group of disgusting pigs that Kiyo is trying to defend

Your're rather ass hurt to see what your precious group does, huh Kiyo? They're even worse than Israel

Quote from: Kinder on November 19, 2014, 09:24:50 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:21:02 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 09:19:37 AM

Quote from: Naja on November 19, 2014, 09:10:44 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 08:55:33 AM

Quote from: Noelle on November 19, 2014, 08:20:35 AM

Quote from: Nuka on November 19, 2014, 02:12:14 AM

And sorry Noelle, but since you came from the chair force, you don't have much room to talk. It might've been "just a job" for you, but you were also in the least labor intensive (and least dangerous) branch of the military. The Air Force also gets the best pay and benefits.

I'd like to see you say what you've said to a Marine and see if you don't get clocked in the face. FYI, Marines have it the hardest AND they get the worst pay/benefits.

You guys seem to have very, very little knowledge of the military. You have no fucking idea what I did in the military. Try calling it the Chair Force all you want, it makes you look ignorant, I had a very labor intensive and demanding job. Also in the military, your primary assigned job, is not your only job.

Every branch works on the same payscale. You are paid by your rank, no matter what branch you are in. Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not. The Air Force is just as demanding as any other branch, you have got to be fucking kidding me. There are quite a few office type jobs in the Air Force, and in every other branch, the military does not operate without those. Guess what I did in the military, Nuka? I worked in vehicle maintenance, working on a team to maintain and repair the bases's 700+ vehicle fleet. I also worked in exercises for weeks straight in 100+ degree weather, and I also helped with real world emergencies, such as getting large pumps ready and onto a C-17 to be sent to New York to help clear the water out after Hurricane Sandy. So you can go ahead and stop trying to shit on me and acting like you know anything about what I have done.

I have experience with the military, so you guys think that experience means nothing just because I am actually logical and know that people in the military do not just deserve respect for no reason. Every branch gets paid the same, every branch gets the same benefits. Benefits such as full medical/dental coverage, tuition assistance, housing, food, 30 days of vacation guaranteed annually. Some branches, such as the Navy, have more of an advantage if you are wishing to travel and live by the coast, but that is a perk of that branch, not a benefit.

That's all well and good, but a friend of mine and my dad's was in the Marines went to Afghanistan and saw a shit ton of action. He came home with PTSD because he saw his friends die and killed people himself. He couldn't go to sleep because he kept seeing the face of this kid he saw get blown up.

Don't even try to act like being a mechanic on a base compares to that in any way. That man did a service to our country, Afghanistan, and the world so when you start saying these people shouldn't be respected, I begin to take this personally. Because if the worst you've ever done is work hard in the sun, then shit, it doesn't even compare to what I've been through.

That man only served his country, he did not do a service to Afghanistan and he most certainly did not do the world a service. Just putting that out there.

Protecting Afghani children from murderers isn't a service to Afghanistan? lolk

Well that's what the Taliban was for, protecting their people from America.

Ladies and gentlemen, the results of the group of disgusting pigs that Kiyo is trying to defend

Your're rather ass hurt to see what your precious group does, huh Kiyo? They're even worse than Israel

No you broke a rule.

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 09:23:43 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 07:21:14 AM

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

Of course, one day you'll get con'd and you'll just let it slide because "it's not a big deal"

No, I'd be pissed. I'd confront the guy and settle it.

The point is, technically, he didn't steal anything. People bought him food. If I were dressed as Pikachu and people bought me food, why the hell should I go to jail just because these people willingly bought me food because they love Pokemon? What have I done wrong? Nothing.

He did do something wrong morally. But not illegal.

I get what you are saying but dressing as military and accepting free meals is different. When you are dressing up as pikachu you aren't acting like you are an actual pokemon, and people aren't giving you money because they think you are actually a pokemon. They are giving you stuff or taking pictures because they think the pretend costume is cool. This guy only got money by tricking others into thinking he was a legitimate military person.

Anyway like I said, he shouldn't go to jail. But there obviously has to be some kind of fine or action against fraud like this.

I can agree with a fine. Because it's kind of like impersonating a police officer or federal agent.

But jail time is overkill.

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 07:01:02 AM

Quote from: Flee on November 19, 2014, 06:32:15 AM

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

That's not what stealing means.

Con = stealing

Not legally. At least, it definitely shouldn't be.