1. Lying to get something for free is wrong. No way around that. If you're dressing up for fun, I see no problem. The moment you're doing it as an exploit though, you deserve to get arrested.
2. Saying the that servicemen aren't deserving of a bit of nice treatment once in a while is really fucking rude. I'd like to direct your attention to homeless veterans and people who were actually injured/wounded in the line of duty, or anyone who was actually deployed out to the front line.

^ Nailed it

lol this obviously deserves arrest people. It's a con, like aTALLmidget is trying to tell you.

Doesn't matter if he does it dressed as a military servicemen or a pickle.

Of course, one day you'll get con'd and you'll just let it slide because "it's not a big deal"

This isn't about why we should respect the military, completely beyond the point. The thing is, people respect military members in the USA. FACT. People are willing to over look simple things like "why is this guy wearing a uniform in Chili's" because of that respect. He doesn't have to walk up and tell "HEY IM IN MILITARY FREE FOOD PLEASE" for it to be a con.

He willingly accepted food completely aware people were only giving it to him because of his fake uniform. That's stealing, smart like, but still stealing.

Also this is completely different than stolen valor. He's accepting gifts, not just walking around in a uniform to feel good and get praise. Or dress up, whatever.

It's honestly disturbing that a con as simple as this can't be spotted....

So because Americans put their armed forces on an unnecessarily high pedestal, anyone wearing clothes of the military while not being part of it should be prosecuted?

He may have not said anything, but it's no fault of his that ignorant people didn't ask questions or use common sense before jumping the gun on "muh patriotism".

All the guy did was be a bit of an asshole.
Nothing more.

If you want to jail people for being assholes...

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Wearing a military uniform in public is a felony? I know impersonating a police officer is, but I don't see the harm in dressing as a military member.

Dick move, absolutely. But I don't think it needs to be a felony.

Impersonating an officer in uniform is worse. But its only illegal if you are wearing insignias or trying to use that status to get on a base or something like that.

In this case, he got free food.

Better lock him up for getting free food under false pretenses. We'd better lock up all those "homeless" and "disabled" people who beg for money, then hop into their car at the end of the day and drive home, too.

You just sound negative all the time.

Because this is stupid shit to get arrested for. He didn't infringe upon anyone's rights or well-being. He didn't steal anything. He didn't hurt anyone. I don't see why it's a problem.

So you would be ok with someone ripping you off for free food when they didn't need the money?
You thought you did a good deed, and it turns out that it was a ruse? This is like being a con man.

Except the people who bought him food did it under their own power, presumably with no pressure from faux-military dude. If having someone buy you a cheeseburger without you saying anything to them is a con...I don't even know...

He deserved being arrested, he was impersonating a serviceman so people would pay for his food. You know how con men like to work, right? Trapping people and getting them to pay for something themselves. Doesn't matter if they paid its still a con.

I think if someone's dumb enough to just to buy someone stuff because of their clothes or for blind respect they lose the right to complain.  "A fool and money soon part"

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That's not what stealing means.

Con = stealing

From the OP he didn't ask for the food or actively try to con them.  He simply wore clothes that made people feel blindy obligated to buy him stuff.

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So because Americans put their armed forces on an unnecessarily high pedestal, anyone wearing clothes of the military while not being part of it should be prosecuted?

He may have not said anything, but it's no fault of his that ignorant people didn't ask questions or use common sense before jumping the gun on "muh patriotism".

All the guy did was be a bit of an asshole.
Nothing more.

If you want to jail people for being assholes...

Completely irrelevant and missing the entire point. The justice system is supposed to protect those "idiots" who fall for this stuff. Obviously you have responsibility not to fall for things like fake uniforms, but when someone is caught out smarting "dumb patriotic Americans" you don't give them a pat on the back and say "good job just don't do it again". I'm not saying jail him for 60 years here, I'm just saying it's a punishable offense and he should be fined at the least.

I don't care about you guys mocking American Patriotism, I think it's over the top as well. Especially seeing how people fell for this trick. But don't connect stabs at military respect with allowing con men to get away.

No one's saying he should get a pat on the back, we're saying he shouldn't be punished.

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Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

So because Americans put their armed forces on an unnecessarily high pedestal, anyone wearing clothes of the military while not being part of it should be prosecuted?

He may have not said anything, but it's no fault of his that ignorant people didn't ask questions or use common sense before jumping the gun on "muh patriotism".

All the guy did was be a bit of an asshole.
Nothing more.

If you want to jail people for being assholes...

Completely irrelevant and missing the entire point. The justice system is supposed to protect those "idiots" who fall for this stuff. Obviously you have responsibility not to fall for things like fake uniforms, but when someone is caught out smarting "dumb patriotic Americans" you don't give them a pat on the back and say "good job just don't do it again". I'm not saying jail him for 60 years here, I'm just saying it's a punishable offense and he should be fined at the least.

I don't care about you guys mocking American Patriotism, I think it's over the top as well. Especially seeing how people fell for this trick. But don't connect stabs at military respect with allowing con men to get away.

No one's saying he should get a pat on the back, we're saying he shouldn't be punished.

Alright remove the uniform.

If someone tricked you out of your money would you be angry?

What Challenger said:

He did do something wrong morally. But not illegal.

/thread

And I though America was a "free" country?

I see no harm in this other than taking advantage of morons.

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And sorry Noelle, but since you came from the chair force, you don't have much room to talk. It might've been "just a job" for you, but you were also in the least labor intensive (and least dangerous) branch of the military. The Air Force also gets the best pay and benefits.

I'd like to see you say what you've said to a Marine and see if you don't get clocked in the face. FYI, Marines have it the hardest AND they get the worst pay/benefits.

You guys seem to have very, very little knowledge of the military. You have no fucking idea what I did in the military. Try calling it the Chair Force all you want, it makes you look ignorant, I had a very labor intensive and demanding job. Also in the military, your primary assigned job, is not your only job.

Every branch works on the same payscale. You are paid by your rank, no matter what branch you are in. Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not. The Air Force is just as demanding as any other branch, you have got to be fucking kidding me. There are quite a few office type jobs in the Air Force, and in every other branch, the military does not operate without those. Guess what I did in the military, Nuka? I worked in vehicle maintenance, working on a team to maintain and repair the bases's 700+ vehicle fleet. I also worked in exercises for weeks straight in 100+ degree weather, and I also helped with real world emergencies, such as getting large pumps ready and onto a C-17 to be sent to New York to help clear the water out after Hurricane Sandy. So you can go ahead and stop trying to shit on me and acting like you know anything about what I have done.

I have experience with the military, so you guys think that experience means nothing just because I am actually logical and know that people in the military do not just deserve respect for no reason. Every branch gets paid the same, every branch gets the same benefits. Benefits such as full medical/dental coverage, tuition assistance, housing, food, 30 days of vacation guaranteed annually. Some branches, such as the Navy, have more of an advantage if you are wishing to travel and live by the coast, but that is a perk of that branch, not a benefit.

That's all well and good, but a friend of mine and my dad's was in the Marines went to Afghanistan and saw a shit ton of action. He came home with PTSD because he saw his friends die and killed people himself. He couldn't go to sleep because he kept seeing the face of this kid he saw get blown up.

Don't even try to act like being a mechanic on a base compares to that in any way. That man did a service to our country, Afghanistan, and the world so when you start saying these people shouldn't be respected, I begin to take this personally. Because if the worst you've ever done is work hard in the sun, then shit, it doesn't even compare to what I've been through.

That man only served his country, he did not do a service to Afghanistan and he most certainly did not do the world a service. Just putting that out there.

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And I though America was a "free" country?

I see no harm in this other than taking advantage of morons.

Stolen Valor Act of 2013 makes it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received any of a series of particular military decorations with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit from convincing someone that he or she rightfully did receive that award

LMAO

You're joking right? Haha this keeps getting better and better.

So a person faking a disability or condition to get benefits isn't okay, but a person doing the samething but instead obtaining it via false pretenses of being military is okay?