Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:10:42 AM

Quote from: Snake on August 08, 2017, 01:06:18 AM

im using weird as a synonym for awkward. how is doing something you dont want to do awkward. its nonsensical sure but not awkward.

"I really hate putting toothpicks under my toenails, but you know what? I'm going to go ahead and do that right now anyway just because."

That does not sound weird to you

like at all

pretending that you don't already do things like that (alcohol)

that's not a fair comparison, and i don't need to tell you why

that said, if you asked me why i wouldn't want to shove a toothpick under my toenail, i would be able to explain to you why in detail—no problem

further more, it wouldn't be "awkward" for her to do that

There is more to it (why I don't like cats, for the example)

that's what makes it circular, because thus far, your view has boiled down to "i don't wanna cause i don't wanna"

"it's awkward because it's awkward and therefore it couldn't possibly be worth it despite the fact that i've survived awkward stuff before"

it's your prerogative if you want to feel that way and don't want to explain it further, because it's not my place to pry

but understand that this is why it makes your position so difficult

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:15:34 AM

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:12:00 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:09:44 AM

People put on more of a facade """""in real life""""" than they do on the Internet.

You should know better than to assume that I'm at my realest here lmao

You're "people"?

Not that that was the crux of my point, or anything. I'd much rather you have responded to that.

A lot of people, sure. But a lot more like fake internet points enough to lie for attention, or will try to save face even if the platform is completely anonymous.

People are egotistical; they'll do whatever they can to get the attention of their choice from an audience, regardless of what they have to say or do.

Yeah, and if you're the kind of person who would lie for attention, then that's your true colors showing.

Over the big scary fake Internet, where things couldn't possibly be real.

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:19:47 AM

There is more to it (why I don't like cats, for the example)

that's what makes it circular, because thus far, your view has boiled down to "i don't wanna cause i don't wanna"

it's your prerogative if you want to feel that way and don't want to explain it further, because it's not my place to pry

but understand that this is why it makes your position so difficult

I literally said why I don't like it in the post after that though

It's pointless

I don't like talking for the sake of talking; I'd rather say what needs to be said then be done. It's the reason I hate long arguments: if everything's been said but there isn't an agreement, every extra word is just being redundant.

Choosing to meet someone for just the sake of talking to them sounds like a waste of time. Therefore, given my disposition towards not speaking to someone just for the sake of chatter, it would be weird for me to suddenly schedule lunch with some person I've never met just to talk to them.

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:22:40 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:15:34 AM

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:12:00 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:09:44 AM

People put on more of a facade """""in real life""""" than they do on the Internet.

You should know better than to assume that I'm at my realest here lmao

You're "people"?

Not that that was the crux of my point, or anything. I'd much rather you have responded to that.

A lot of people, sure. But a lot more like fake internet points enough to lie for attention, or will try to save face even if the platform is completely anonymous.

People are egotistical; they'll do whatever they can to get the attention of their choice from an audience, regardless of what they have to say or do.

Yeah, and if you're the kind of person who would lie for attention, then that's your true colors showing.

Over the big scary fake Internet, where things couldn't possibly be real.

Okay, but that was literally a response to your notion of "people" being more real over the internet. I disagree, I think people are willing to lie even more when you can't verify all the facts.

Okay, but that was literally a response to your notion of "people" being more real over the internet. I disagree, I think people are willing to lie even more when you can't verify all the facts.

Are liars not really liars? 🤔

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:30:30 AM

I don't like talking for the sake of talking; I'd rather say what needs to be said then be done. It's the reason I hate long arguments: if everything's been said but there isn't an agreement, every extra word is just being redundant.

Choosing to meet someone for just the sake of talking to them sounds like a waste of time. Therefore, given my disposition towards not speaking to someone just for the sake of chatter, it would be weird for me to suddenly schedule lunch with some person I've never met just to talk to them.

Well, talking is talking and having lunch is having lunch, so it seems like you find a lot of other harmless, healthy activities pointless too. That said, I doubt if Snake and I met up, all we'd do is talk. We'd play games, maybe watch a couple movies. Is that pointless too?

What cool awesome excellent and un-pointless things do you do with your "real life" friends, then? Fucking skydiving? I didn't know you had such high standards.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize the thread title was "have lunch, then go bowling and see a movie and fly a plane with me".

If I wanted to watch a movie with a bunch of people I barely know (and others I know slightly more than that), then I'd just go to a theater.

If I wanted to watch a movie with you I'd throw up a livestream. If I wanted to play a game, I'd add you on PSN or find a game you could run on Steam. If I wanted to listen to music, I'd send you a plug.dj link.

None of the activities require us to meet up. Literally the only reason would be what Prehistoric said his mission statement was earlier: to see how we act in live environments, and to probe deeper into our lives to get a deeper understanding of the person.

And yeah, if I want a deeper understanding of someone I'll either marry them or become their shrink. I don't want to analyze the twitch response of people to see how it measures up to their online personas.

None of the activities require us to meet up. Literally the only reason would be what Prehistoric said his mission statement was earlier: to see how we act in live environments, and to probe deeper into our lives to get a deeper understanding of the person.

And yeah, if I want a deeper understanding of someone I'll either marry them or become their shrink. I don't want to analyze the twitch response of people to see how it measures up to their online personas.

I completely agree with everything you just said here, actually, but we're still looking at it from two different angles.

From what you're saying here, it sounds like you're saying there's no point in having friends in-person at all, but I feel like that isn't quite what you mean. Care to elaborate?

you can't stream movies online thats illegal
you can't play melee online that's illegal
you can't spin vinyl together thats impossible

Can you spin me right round like a record baby?

Quote from: Snake on August 08, 2017, 01:47:51 AM

you can't stream movies online thats illegal
you can't play melee online that's illegal
you can't spin vinyl together thats impossible

Can you spin me right round like a record baby?

depends on the distance between your thighs babe

i no joke wanna drive down to daytona when im 18 and hang with ryle

also im presumably  gonna be going to FSU at the same time as RC so

From what you're saying here, it sounds like you're saying there's no point in having friends in-person at all, but I feel like that isn't quite what you mean. Care to elaborate?

Let's put this in Seinfeld terms: sorry, I already have three friends, I don't need a fourth. Whatever companionship that in-person friendship offers, I don't need more of it than I have. The ideas I propositioned earlier (sensory details, including those beyond talking) are mostly in, but most importantly it's a way to get out of the house while keeping a sense of security regardless of where you go.

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:47:38 AM

From what you're saying here, it sounds like you're saying there's no point in having friends in-person at all, but I feel like that isn't quite what you mean. Care to elaborate?

Let's put this in Seinfeld terms: sorry, I already have three friends, I don't need a fourth. Whatever companionship that in-person friendship offers, I don't need more of it than I have. The ideas I propositioned earlier (sensory details, including those beyond talking) are mostly in, but most importantly it's a way to get out of the house while keeping a sense of security regardless of where you go.

"I have enough friends."

SHIT, ARIA

THAT'S ALL YOU NEEDED TO SAY

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:46:50 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 08, 2017, 01:37:58 AM

Quote from: Aria on August 08, 2017, 01:31:50 AM

Okay, but that was literally a response to your notion of "people" being more real over the internet. I disagree, I think people are willing to lie even more when you can't verify all the facts.

Are liars not really liars? 🤔

If that wasn't intended to be a jab, then I don't see the point of that response.

To put words on a page? 👌

Not a jab, though I'm sorry for being a little cross with you throughout this discussion.

I was merely reiterating my point that people who reveal themselves to be liars on the Internet are liars. There is no split personality where the person is honest in "real life" and a liar on the Internet. If you're a liar on the Internet, you're a liar in general. That's what I believe.

Maybe I was being a little cheeky, but I wasn't trying to be insulting.

I think that being 100% honest is just as fruitless as trying to know everything in Decartian logic. People aren't honest or liars, just shades of liar. The most honest person is someone who lies without meaning to (like guestimating things when recounting a story from a long time ago), the least honest is a compulsive liar.

I think that being 100% honest is just as fruitless as trying to know everything in Decartian logic. People aren't honest or liars, just shades of liar. The most honest person is someone who lies without meaning to (like guestimating things when recounting a story from a long time ago), the least honest is a compulsive liar.

All the more reason to believe that people are generally more "real" on the Internet, if you ask me.