Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:31:54 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:30:09 PMQuote from: Tyger on August 17, 2016, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxingif it's for yourself then surebut if it's to impress other people then you're wrongWhy not both? Some people just want to look their best.well for starters, stuff like this is straight up false advertisingThe beauty industry is corrupt and hell and preys upon young women. That's a pretty well known fact.This thread is about the idea of makeup in the first place.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:30:09 PMQuote from: Tyger on August 17, 2016, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxingif it's for yourself then surebut if it's to impress other people then you're wrongWhy not both? Some people just want to look their best.well for starters, stuff like this is straight up false advertising
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:30:09 PMQuote from: Tyger on August 17, 2016, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxingif it's for yourself then surebut if it's to impress other people then you're wrongWhy not both? Some people just want to look their best.
Quote from: Tyger on August 17, 2016, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxingif it's for yourself then surebut if it's to impress other people then you're wrong
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxing
yeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people
The beauty industry is corrupt and hell and preys upon young women. That's a pretty well known fact. This thread is about the idea of makeup in the first place.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:29:32 PMWhy? All the misogynists love hating on makeup.so you disagree with them just because they're misogynists...?QuoteAnd yes, some things deserve to be covered up. that's a valid point. ugly people are ugly, i guess. (not sarcasm)QuoteWhen a guy has a zit and applies coverup to it, no one cares.never known a dude who has ever done thatQuoteNot to mention that most of the widespread makeup is used for enhancement, not covering stuff up - lipstick, eyeliner, blush, foundation, etc.yeah i'm okay with that i suppose
Why? All the misogynists love hating on makeup.
And yes, some things deserve to be covered up.
When a guy has a zit and applies coverup to it, no one cares.
Not to mention that most of the widespread makeup is used for enhancement, not covering stuff up - lipstick, eyeliner, blush, foundation, etc.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:33:01 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:31:54 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:30:09 PMQuote from: Tyger on August 17, 2016, 10:28:52 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:25:10 PMyeah it's pretty dumbespecially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etcpretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people there's nothing wrong with waxingif it's for yourself then surebut if it's to impress other people then you're wrongWhy not both? Some people just want to look their best.well for starters, stuff like this is straight up false advertisingThe beauty industry is corrupt and hell and preys upon young women. That's a pretty well known fact.This thread is about the idea of makeup in the first place.taking 2-3 hours to put your face on is wasting your life
And yes, exactly. Fixing unappealing things about yourself shouldn't result in you being shamed.
I've known plenty, lol. Might be an American thing.
Those things (enhancement) vastly overpopulate the "covering up" things.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:39:17 PMOverdoing anything (the three hours example) is bad - that doesn't mean anyone who uses makeup should be judged as having low self esteem.there are people who refuse to leave the house without makeup because they think that other people seeing them will somehow ruin their reputationif that's not insecure, I don't know what is
Overdoing anything (the three hours example) is bad - that doesn't mean anyone who uses makeup should be judged as having low self esteem.
also since you're so anti-GMO, you should probably take a look at the ingredients in that shit
95% of people who don't overdo it.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:43:19 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:41:42 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:39:17 PMOverdoing anything (the three hours example) is bad - that doesn't mean anyone who uses makeup should be judged as having low self esteem.there are people who refuse to leave the house without makeup because they think that other people seeing them will somehow ruin their reputationif that's not insecure, I don't know what isAre you just ignoring what I'm saying, lol? I agree with that. Overdoing anything, including makeup, is bad. That doesn't mean we should judge the 95% of people who don't overdo it.not being able to leave the house without makeup doesn't mean that the makeup they're doing is overdoneplus what's overdone and isn't is highly subjective
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:41:42 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:39:17 PMOverdoing anything (the three hours example) is bad - that doesn't mean anyone who uses makeup should be judged as having low self esteem.there are people who refuse to leave the house without makeup because they think that other people seeing them will somehow ruin their reputationif that's not insecure, I don't know what isAre you just ignoring what I'm saying, lol? I agree with that. Overdoing anything, including makeup, is bad. That doesn't mean we should judge the 95% of people who don't overdo it.
Makeup is just the new hip thing to hate on,
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:44:14 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:43:04 PMalso since you're so anti-GMO, you should probably take a look at the ingredients in that shitI use hair products, and that's just as bad as makeup ingredient-wise. Neither touches the toxicity of GMO products.stuff that makes contact with your skin for long periods of time can enter your bloodstreamif you're not going to criticize of that then you're hypocritical
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:43:04 PMalso since you're so anti-GMO, you should probably take a look at the ingredients in that shitI use hair products, and that's just as bad as makeup ingredient-wise. Neither touches the toxicity of GMO products.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:49:28 PMMakeup is just the new hip thing to hate on, i wouldn't say thati've never really heard anyone else besides me, today, complain about it
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2016, 10:50:42 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:49:28 PMMakeup is just the new hip thing to hate on, i wouldn't say thati've never really heard anyone else besides me, today, complain about itAre you kidding? People complain about it constantly.
actually some of the more hardcore feminists have been hating on makeup for quite a long time now
American eagle has a whole ad campaign against make up
so you're okay with skin poisoninghow do you feel about pain essentially being a requirement to ""beauty""?
You can't shame people for wanting to look their best. Most people aren't ugly, just unkempt/unhealthy.
I think you'll find wearing makeup has just as much to do with style, if not more.
Quote from: Eli on August 17, 2016, 10:54:43 PMokay, new stanceugly people are ugly and there's nothing wrong with wanting to be prettier via makeup.they still probably hate themselves lol
okay, new stanceugly people are ugly and there's nothing wrong with wanting to be prettier via makeup.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:56:02 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:53:33 PMso you're okay with skin poisoninghow do you feel about pain essentially being a requirement to ""beauty""?I'm okay with personal choice, and makeup isn't nearly as damaging as the shit people guzzle down daily.even the vegan who shops at farmer's markets but still can't leave the house without dressing up as a super model every day?
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:53:33 PMso you're okay with skin poisoninghow do you feel about pain essentially being a requirement to ""beauty""?I'm okay with personal choice, and makeup isn't nearly as damaging as the shit people guzzle down daily.
go to any fancy event and pain/discomfort was a requirement somewhere in the process of dressing up for it
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 11:02:42 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:56:02 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:53:33 PMso you're okay with skin poisoninghow do you feel about pain essentially being a requirement to ""beauty""?I'm okay with personal choice, and makeup isn't nearly as damaging as the shit people guzzle down daily.even the vegan who shops at farmer's markets but still can't leave the house without dressing up as a super model every day?Never met a person like that, even people I know who eat McDonalds weekly don't wear all that much makeup. We can go around and around answering anecdote with anecdote, it accomplishes nothing.you haven't been to southern california thenalso people who do to McD's that much probably don't give a shit
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 10:56:02 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 10:53:33 PMso you're okay with skin poisoninghow do you feel about pain essentially being a requirement to ""beauty""?I'm okay with personal choice, and makeup isn't nearly as damaging as the shit people guzzle down daily.even the vegan who shops at farmer's markets but still can't leave the house without dressing up as a super model every day?Never met a person like that, even people I know who eat McDonalds weekly don't wear all that much makeup. We can go around and around answering anecdote with anecdote, it accomplishes nothing.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 11:04:07 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMgo to any fancy event and pain/discomfort was a requirement somewhere in the process of dressing up for itThat's another problem with the industry/social perception, not a problem with the substance of makeup or people who don't use it that excessively.well I don't have a problem with people who put a little bit on just to dress up and look nice
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMgo to any fancy event and pain/discomfort was a requirement somewhere in the process of dressing up for itThat's another problem with the industry/social perception, not a problem with the substance of makeup or people who don't use it that excessively.
Quote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 11:06:13 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:05:19 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 11:04:07 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMgo to any fancy event and pain/discomfort was a requirement somewhere in the process of dressing up for itThat's another problem with the industry/social perception, not a problem with the substance of makeup or people who don't use it that excessively.well I don't have a problem with people who put a little bit on just to dress up and look niceThen we're on the same page....literally what I've been saying this whole thread, lolI thought you liked arguing for the sake of arguing, so I figured I'd indulge it
Quote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:05:19 PMQuote from: Joyce Byers on August 17, 2016, 11:04:07 PMQuote from: Varg on August 17, 2016, 11:00:55 PMgo to any fancy event and pain/discomfort was a requirement somewhere in the process of dressing up for itThat's another problem with the industry/social perception, not a problem with the substance of makeup or people who don't use it that excessively.well I don't have a problem with people who put a little bit on just to dress up and look niceThen we're on the same page....literally what I've been saying this whole thread, lol
makeup is so disgusting
