makeup is so disgusting

 
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i follow this girl on twitter (she's a friend of a friend) and all she does is retweet these makeup videos and stuff. her life is focused on following some sort of career in makeup.

every time i see a video or something all i can think about is how disgusting this process is. i mean you're basically hiding what you truly are to be accepted by people... and i mean, do you, but the fact that this is so widespread and acceptable is just... degrading

i'm not the only one who feels this way, right


 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty.


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A small amount of make-up CAN be pretty and it makes girls feel more confident which is good especially for young girls.

That being said some girls look like fucking clowns and if you need a whole 30 minute tutorial on how to make yourself less ugly you're probably an ogre


 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty.

no you're right

but at what cost


 
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A small amount of make-up CAN be pretty and it makes girls feel more confident which is good especially for young girls.

makeup makes a girl prettier, that's not really what this is about

and i would argue that girls having self-esteem issues from a young age and needing makeup to cope with it is a bigger problem altogether

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That being said some girls look like fucking clowns and if you need a whole 30 minute tutorial on how to make yourself less ugly you're probably an ogre

it's not really about looks

it's about what it means to a woman that she needs to hide who she is to feel confident or accepted


this all sounds like feminist bs i know but it's just how i feel


 
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no daughter of mine will wear makeup before the tender age of 17


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Feeling more confident  and "needing makeup to cope" aren't the same thing at all


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Most girls wear make up because they like it or it suits their style. No different than buying your own clothes or wearing your hair in a certain way.

Has bollocks all to do with self esteem or "hiding".


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no daughter of mine will wear makeup before the tender age of 17
they'll never know about makeup living in a commune in the woods with no electricity


 
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Feeling more confident  and "needing makeup to cope" aren't the same thing at all

if you don't have adequate self-esteem without make up i would call that coping


 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty.

no you're right

but at what cost
Um, ten minutes a day and $20?

There's a point where it can be overdone, but there's nothing wrong with basic makeup or the idea of it.


 
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no daughter of mine will wear makeup before the tender age of 17
they'll never know about makeup living in a commune in the woods with no electricity

see

it solves all problems


 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty.

no you're right

but at what cost
Um, ten minutes a day and $20?

There's a point where it can be overdone, but there's nothing wrong with basic makeup or the idea of it.

no i meant like

by allowing girls to do that to themselves, what are we really telling them about themselves? what kind of effect does that have on the female population


 
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Nothing wrong with wanting to look pretty.

no you're right

but at what cost
Um, ten minutes a day and $20?

There's a point where it can be overdone, but there's nothing wrong with basic makeup or the idea of it.

no i meant like

by allowing girls to do that to themselves, what are we really telling them about themselves? what kind of effect does that have on the female population
None at all. No different than a guy using hair gel.


 
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Most girls wear make up because they like it or it suits their style. No different than buying your own clothes or wearing your hair in a certain way.

yeah i could see eye liner being like that or something

but a lot of make up is used to cover stuff up

that's what i'm not for

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Has bollocks all to do with self esteem or "hiding".

cmon


 
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Most girls wear make up because they like it or it suits their style. No different than buying your own clothes or wearing your hair in a certain way.

yeah i could see eye liner being like that or something

but a lot of make up is used to cover stuff up

that's what i'm not for

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Has bollocks all to do with self esteem or "hiding".

cmon
Cmon what? He's right.


 
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None at all. No different than a guy using hair gel.

i'm surprised your taking this stance tbh.

but i would argue that some/most make up is used to cover up, whereas hair gel is used to style. eye liner lip stick is a littler different obviously, but


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Feeling more confident  and "needing makeup to cope" aren't the same thing at all

if you don't have adequate self-esteem without make up i would call that coping

Not everything exists in extremes. She can have fine self esteem but still want a boost after a hard week or when she's going to have something important that that

A girl can wake up and say "you know what I want to look my best today" and wear nice clothes and put on make up and have a kick ass day. She's not going to cut herself if she doesn't have make up


 
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Cmon what? He's right.

how many girls did you know in highschool that discovered more makeup = more compliments


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yeah it's pretty dumb
especially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etc

pretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people
there's nothing wrong with waxing


 
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None at all. No different than a guy using hair gel.

i'm surprised your taking this stance tbh.

but i would argue that some/most make up is used to cover up, whereas hair gel is used to style. eye liner lip stick is a littler different obviously, but
Why? All the misogynists love hating on makeup. It makes girls more confident and proud of their bodies. And yes, some things deserve to be covered up. When a guy has a zit and applies coverup to it, no one cares.

Not to mention that most of the widespread makeup is used for enhancement, not covering stuff up - lipstick, eyeliner, blush, foundation, etc.


 
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Not everything exists in extremes. She can have fine self esteem but still want a boost after a hard week or when she's going to have something important that that

A girl can wake up and say "you know what I want to look my best today" and wear nice clothes and put on make up and have a kick ass day. She's not going to cut herself if she doesn't have make up

obviously you're right about that

but there is a problem here


 
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Who the fuck cares what females do with makeup


 
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yeah it's pretty dumb
especially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etc

pretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people
there's nothing wrong with waxing
if it's for yourself then sure
but if it's to impress other people then you're wrong
Why not both? Some people just want to look their best.


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You're talking complete shit tbh


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yeah it's pretty dumb
especially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etc

pretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people
there's nothing wrong with waxing
if it's for yourself then sure
but if it's to impress other people then you're wrong
that's true. I think 90% of people wax things that they would have shaved anyway though


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Has anyone seen Zoey Deschanel without makeup? 2cute4me


 
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Has bollocks all to do with self esteem or "hiding".
Sure.


 
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Why? All the misogynists love hating on makeup.

so you disagree with them just because they're misogynists...?

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And yes, some things deserve to be covered up.

that's a valid point. ugly people are ugly, i guess. (not sarcasm)

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When a guy has a zit and applies coverup to it, no one cares.

never known a dude who has ever done that

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Not to mention that most of the widespread makeup is used for enhancement, not covering stuff up - lipstick, eyeliner, blush, foundation, etc.

yeah i'm okay with that i suppose


 
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yeah it's pretty dumb
especially when you start treading into territory like waxing, and obsessing over being the smallest size in clothing possible to the point where it's extremely unhealthy, etc

pretty retarded, degrading, and shallow to do all that just to impress other people
there's nothing wrong with waxing
if it's for yourself then sure
but if it's to impress other people then you're wrong
Why not both? Some people just want to look their best.
well for starters, stuff like this is straight up false advertising


The beauty industry is corrupt and hell and preys upon young women. That's a pretty well known fact.

This thread is about the idea of makeup in the first place.