Let's figure out a solution to America's Homeless problem.

Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
I was thinking, MOST of the homeless are drug addicted or mentally insane.
Instead of wasting boatloads of money, let's just throw it into rehab centers and mental hospitals to attempt to get some or most back into society. And if they cannot, then at least they are taken care of in these mental hospitals.
PLUS this will increase jobs.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,630 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Fact: america has a steady population of homeless veterans and youth
Fact: america needs to find an alternative to foreign oil in the energy market
Suggestion: american homeless are to be rounded up and burned to power turbines and create renewable energy


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Fact: america has a steady population of homeless veterans and youth
Fact: america needs to find an alternative to foreign oil in the energy market
Suggestion: american homeless are to be rounded up and burned to power turbines and create renewable energy
I was thinking the homeless be turned into canned meat to end world hunger. :)


Dietrich Six | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DietrichSix
IP: Logged

11,784 posts
Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Kill. Them.




With kindness.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Also for the few programs there are, the requirements are usually so strict that good people who genuinely need help get thrown out because they didn't meet some stupid arbitrary requirement. People are pushed into this fight or die mode until they reach this point of no return where they do start resorting to drugs and crime, develop mental problems, etc before these "wonderful programs decide that they're finally eligible. And boom, you've got people that will be stuck in that system forever now because they're broken and useless.
So you're saying that if we relooked at and changed the requirements we could fix a lot of problems? I can agree with that.


Nexus | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Nexus
IP: Logged

9,417 posts
 
Let's just round them up and kill them. Problem solved.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.


 
Elegiac
| Knight of the Limits
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Elegiac
IP: Logged

23,675 posts
If you post in this thread you are showing support for a communist america: copy and paste this into your post to show support.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
If you post in this thread you are showing support for a communist america: copy and paste this into your post to show support.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Also for the few programs there are, the requirements are usually so strict that good people who genuinely need help get thrown out because they didn't meet some stupid arbitrary requirement. People are pushed into this fight or die mode until they reach this point of no return where they do start resorting to drugs and crime, develop mental problems, etc before these "wonderful programs decide that they're finally eligible. And boom, you've got people that will be stuck in that system forever now because they're broken and useless.
So you're saying that if we relooked at and changed the requirements we could fix a lot of problems? I can agree with that.
Absolutely.
There's so many people that need help, and a long list of reasons as to why. The problem is that the programs buy in place are only meant to assist the people in the absolute worst conditions, i.e. the point of no return.

If you were about to go homeless and tried looking for help, there's no such thing. Welfare, sure, but nothing to really help you figure out how to get your life back together if you're in a position of poverty.
Hm, so MAYBE we put our focus on those who are in poverty but not at the point of no return? If we can help these people first it prevents more homeless people then we have the rehab centers and mental facilities for those in the deepest trench.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?


 
Elai
| Gay Tupac
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Prehistoric
IP: Logged

18,968 posts
male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
Canada's government tossed around the idea of abolishing homelessness by giving every citizen the constitutional right to a home in the 80s. So that's something.


Jim | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: AltarsofRadness
PSN: spirit_of_sand
Steam: Kurt Russel
ID: LancexLink
IP: Logged

13,153 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Execute them. Why are we discussing this?
I think they may be considered 'inhumane' but ya know, that might just be me. :p


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.
Something like that, though be aware that there more likely than not already are groups and organizations in the more prominent cities. They'd just be doing things differently, so evaluate that and figure out what other needs there are. It's not a one person job though, none of these things can be done alone. You need a network.
Would it be possible to unite the groups under my ideas or do you think their agenda would get in the way??
That's good though, before I make my moves I would research as much as I could so I don't go in blind and have some sort of direction.
Hm, a network. Maybe I could get a few friends that are good at public speaking or something. What would make a good network?


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.
Something like that, though be aware that there more likely than not already are groups and organizations in the more prominent cities. They'd just be doing things differently, so evaluate that and figure out what other needs there are. It's not a one person job though, none of these things can be done alone. You need a network.
Would it be possible to unite the groups under my ideas or do you think their agenda would get in the way??
That's good though, before I make my moves I would research as much as I could so I don't go in blind and have some sort of direction.
Hm, a network. Maybe I could get a few friends that are good at public speaking or something. What would make a good network?
You're going into their community. You need to see what they want and need. You're only one person, and an outsider at that. Grassroots groups do tend to work together but don't think that you can just jump in and steer them in a direction you want them to go. And yes having good public speakers is important..
You have a good point, I should show some respect before I try and steer the ship-tend to their needs first.
Who would you have in your network if you were going to try and attempt a complete change like I'm fixing to do?


MyNameIsCharlie | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: MyNameIsCharlie
IP: Logged

7,789 posts
Get of my lawn
Round them up and put them into groups of 100. Have that group fight each other to the death, leaving 1 winner. Place the winners in groups of 100, rinse and repeat until only one remains. Pay him a million a year afterwards.


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Round them up and put them into groups of 100. Have that group fight each other to the death, leaving 1 winner. Place the winners in groups of 100, rinse and repeat until only one remains. Pay him a million a year afterwards.
Is this for...entertainment?


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.
Something like that, though be aware that there more likely than not already are groups and organizations in the more prominent cities. They'd just be doing things differently, so evaluate that and figure out what other needs there are. It's not a one person job though, none of these things can be done alone. You need a network.
Would it be possible to unite the groups under my ideas or do you think their agenda would get in the way??
That's good though, before I make my moves I would research as much as I could so I don't go in blind and have some sort of direction.
Hm, a network. Maybe I could get a few friends that are good at public speaking or something. What would make a good network?
You're going into their community. You need to see what they want and need. You're only one person, and an outsider at that. Grassroots groups do tend to work together but don't think that you can just jump in and steer them in a direction you want them to go. And yes having good public speakers is important..
You have a good point, I should show some respect before I try and steer the ship-tend to their needs first.
Who would you have in your network if you were going to try and attempt a complete change like I'm fixing to do?
I've met a lot of people from going to events, meetings, lunches, and discussion groups nonstop last summer, I relate to people based on my own experiences, and now that I'm back in college I'm the Vice President of the GSA. So basically, I know people. And I know people who know people. Facebook does help, but really only if it's people who are already actively involved.
Once I figure this all out and deice to move forward, we should work together. :)


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.
Something like that, though be aware that there more likely than not already are groups and organizations in the more prominent cities. They'd just be doing things differently, so evaluate that and figure out what other needs there are. It's not a one person job though, none of these things can be done alone. You need a network.
Would it be possible to unite the groups under my ideas or do you think their agenda would get in the way??
That's good though, before I make my moves I would research as much as I could so I don't go in blind and have some sort of direction.
Hm, a network. Maybe I could get a few friends that are good at public speaking or something. What would make a good network?
You're going into their community. You need to see what they want and need. You're only one person, and an outsider at that. Grassroots groups do tend to work together but don't think that you can just jump in and steer them in a direction you want them to go. And yes having good public speakers is important..
You have a good point, I should show some respect before I try and steer the ship-tend to their needs first.
Who would you have in your network if you were going to try and attempt a complete change like I'm fixing to do?
I've met a lot of people from going to events, meetings, lunches, and discussion groups nonstop last summer, I relate to people based on my own experiences, and now that I'm back in college I'm the Vice President of the GSA. So basically, I know people. And I know people who know people. Facebook does help, but really only if it's people who are already actively involved.
Once I figure this all out and deice to move forward, we should work together. :)
Here's the kicker: this is only people within my local county.
Why not start there?


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
A lot of the people I met while homeless weren't drug addicted or insane, just part of marginalized minorities, veterans, had too many medical bills, fired/let go from their jobs, or like I was: thrown out after coming out.

What about those people? More often than not there aren't any programs to help those people back on their feet. The only reason I was able to get out of that quicker than most others is because I started volunteering at nonprofits while homeless and made friends along the way which scored me couches to sleep on rather than shelters and the sidewalks, where most of the others tend to end up.
'marginalized minorities' are normally easier to help than the mass majority. So that being said, I'm sure we could fix up some type of programs to help them out. Such as housing or jobs.
I'll wait for you to figure out where you're going to get that funding.
Oh, you're Nuka. Took me a second.
Funding? There's a lot of misplaced money here and there. Lots of worthless wars and certain taxes. If we just went over how our funds are expended we'd be able to spend our money more smartly and have a lot of money left over.
See that's what everyone says until they get down to actually doing shit.

You know how money for this kind of stuff is decided by?
Politics.

You know what happens then?
Absolutely nothing. They use the funding for something else in the fine print. Every time.
That what I'm saying though! MISPLACED MONEY. It should not be decided by politics and it shouldn't be going to less important things.
When there's budget cuts in any city/state, guess what's the first thing to get cut, often times without anyone even being told? You guessed it.

Until you go in and lobby for this shit yourself you can keep keyboard warrioring all you want about how all you need to do is put the money in the right place, but it's not going to do anything. This is a city by city issue and it can't be solved on a national scale, let alone state.
I'd be willing to be a politician and have this as one of my main points. I just wish I knew how to become one. :I
The better thing to do would be to organize a grassroots group. You get people going for a cause, and you can pick up more steam when you hit the City Council. Like I said, it's a city by city issue and every single one will probably try to handle it differently.
Dang...city to city?? I guess that makes sense though! Slowly change an entire state then use it as an example to others. Creating these groups though, do I start it on the city's facebook page lol?
Facebook? Hah, good luck with that. See my other post. People who don't know what it's like will very easily dismiss the entire issue.

You have to go down to the impoverished areas or where marginalized communities gather. It's easy for me because I just look for any LGBT centered groups, and there's a fairly large presence where I live so you find people on all walks of life. Meet people face to face and get involved in the lifestyle, the events. Find other organizations, and figure out that way how to mold a new grassroots group.

The only reason I had the time and ability to do as much as I did is because I was fucking homeless. It's not like I had anything better to do, so my entire life went into random causes. And there were a lot of other people like me who did the same.
So, I take a sop box into these communities, pump them up, and get a following. Once I have the following I can document their feelings and thoughts. Present them to other communities and businesses and get more backing from that. Once I have the homeless communities and some organizations I take it to the city??
I like this. I will do it.
Something like that, though be aware that there more likely than not already are groups and organizations in the more prominent cities. They'd just be doing things differently, so evaluate that and figure out what other needs there are. It's not a one person job though, none of these things can be done alone. You need a network.
Would it be possible to unite the groups under my ideas or do you think their agenda would get in the way??
That's good though, before I make my moves I would research as much as I could so I don't go in blind and have some sort of direction.
Hm, a network. Maybe I could get a few friends that are good at public speaking or something. What would make a good network?
You're going into their community. You need to see what they want and need. You're only one person, and an outsider at that. Grassroots groups do tend to work together but don't think that you can just jump in and steer them in a direction you want them to go. And yes having good public speakers is important..
You have a good point, I should show some respect before I try and steer the ship-tend to their needs first.
Who would you have in your network if you were going to try and attempt a complete change like I'm fixing to do?
I've met a lot of people from going to events, meetings, lunches, and discussion groups nonstop last summer, I relate to people based on my own experiences, and now that I'm back in college I'm the Vice President of the GSA. So basically, I know people. And I know people who know people. Facebook does help, but really only if it's people who are already actively involved.
Once I figure this all out and deice to move forward, we should work together. :)
Here's the kicker: this is only people within my local county.
Why not start there?
Err, if you feel like flying over to SoCal, sure.
It's better than starting Utah where I live. Plus I have no connections there.


Ingy | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Ingloriouswho98
IP: Logged

14,554 posts
 
Goddamn you're so cuuuuuuuute


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
Goddamn you're so cuuuuuuuute
Fight me, big boy. :)


Jester | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Jester
IP: Logged

7,813 posts
 
NAZI death camps


Death | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: giant nubbz
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Death
IP: Logged

2,701 posts
I am always around, but never seen. I am often avoided, but you can't out run me. for I will come when you're old and grey, or maybe even the very next day. I will come with cold embrace, and give you rest with a chilled kiss on your face. I come in many forms of emotional state, whether it's irony, love, laughter, or hate. I am everyone's final fate.
NAZI death camps
Auswitz V.2? "Money will set you free"


🂿 | Mythic Unfrigginbelievable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Decimator Omega
IP: Logged

21,882 posts
 
Very affordable housing. That's all I can think of.