Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:22:22 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:14:10 AMOkay. Let's slow the train down here. For starters I don't know quite what we're talking about here. I need some context. I'm tired and my eyes are bleeding. I'm not gonna go through that many pages.Can you give me a quick summary?I'm no specialist, but hey. Let's give it a shot. Discussion always lands somewhere.Ill do my best but im on mobile.It's been a long time since I've been loved. I've been in varying degrees of romantic periods individually but I haven't had my love reciprocated in a very long time, and this just dawned on me. I want someone to love, who also loves me, so that I have a reason to get up in the morning (see, a purpose). That purpose being, to provide for them. That obligation will force me to get my life together. I also said I hate myself and want someone who loves me to tell me why they do. Additionally, though i havent said it yet, i believe that the human experience is not genuine if you arent depressed. I believe depression is unfiltered reality, and that getting over it is fine and all but its fleeting. The Human condition is defined by suffering.Well, fuck, there's your problem. Right there. RIGHT FUCKING THERE. I could give you a monumentally long post. I can cover almost every single aspect of what you just said and dismantle it. Completely. Guess Nuka's right. The doc you visited was shit. But, I'm not going to waste my time. Do you want me to write a post?I dunno if I can do it now, because my head's kinda..... messy. But after I wake up and maybe sort out some of my problems. I can break everything down for you piece by piece.Again, it might be messy and come insegments. But I hear you, okay.
Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:14:10 AMOkay. Let's slow the train down here. For starters I don't know quite what we're talking about here. I need some context. I'm tired and my eyes are bleeding. I'm not gonna go through that many pages.Can you give me a quick summary?I'm no specialist, but hey. Let's give it a shot. Discussion always lands somewhere.Ill do my best but im on mobile.It's been a long time since I've been loved. I've been in varying degrees of romantic periods individually but I haven't had my love reciprocated in a very long time, and this just dawned on me. I want someone to love, who also loves me, so that I have a reason to get up in the morning (see, a purpose). That purpose being, to provide for them. That obligation will force me to get my life together. I also said I hate myself and want someone who loves me to tell me why they do. Additionally, though i havent said it yet, i believe that the human experience is not genuine if you arent depressed. I believe depression is unfiltered reality, and that getting over it is fine and all but its fleeting. The Human condition is defined by suffering.
Okay. Let's slow the train down here. For starters I don't know quite what we're talking about here. I need some context. I'm tired and my eyes are bleeding. I'm not gonna go through that many pages.Can you give me a quick summary?I'm no specialist, but hey. Let's give it a shot. Discussion always lands somewhere.
He feels happy.
Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:21:31 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:17:07 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with othersTheres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeopleArrogance may be one of them, sureBut its not the maon reasonAnyways im not really interested in discussing this with youAdvice you don't want to hear I the best advice you can take.Also, don't complain your level of intelligence is "awkward" and then say that it doesn't make it hard for you to connect with others.See this is the reason shrinks didn't work for you, you're so adamant about being complicated and saying that nobody could possibly understand you that when somebody gets it on the nose, you don't want to believe it.1. I also never saif my intelligence DOESNT hinder my ability to connect. It doesn,but there are other reasons too.2. Im so glad you know my experiences better than i do regarding shrinks.
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:17:07 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with othersTheres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeopleArrogance may be one of them, sureBut its not the maon reasonAnyways im not really interested in discussing this with youAdvice you don't want to hear I the best advice you can take.Also, don't complain your level of intelligence is "awkward" and then say that it doesn't make it hard for you to connect with others.See this is the reason shrinks didn't work for you, you're so adamant about being complicated and saying that nobody could possibly understand you that when somebody gets it on the nose, you don't want to believe it.
Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with othersTheres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeopleArrogance may be one of them, sureBut its not the maon reasonAnyways im not really interested in discussing this with you
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.
Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.
become enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:25:55 AMQuote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:22:06 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:07:37 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:02:55 AMTelling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion. What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he. We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.YEAHwooTread carefully, 'ol Charles is one of the people that encouraged Roman.We all know how that went.Roman gets in where he fits in. Mad that he banged a fatty? That's your problem. He doesn't feel he has a problem. He feels happy. People that fuck with him are the unhappy ones.With all due respect, this is coming from the guy with a horribly failed marriage and a whole string of other problems. You don't even seem to have your own shit sorted out yet. All I'm saying is I don't think you're the best candidate for advice in this department. Not that any of are, but...y'know what I mean.
Quote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:22:06 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:07:37 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:02:55 AMTelling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion. What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he. We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.YEAHwooTread carefully, 'ol Charles is one of the people that encouraged Roman.We all know how that went.Roman gets in where he fits in. Mad that he banged a fatty? That's your problem. He doesn't feel he has a problem. He feels happy. People that fuck with him are the unhappy ones.
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:07:37 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:02:55 AMTelling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion. What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he. We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.YEAHwooTread carefully, 'ol Charles is one of the people that encouraged Roman.We all know how that went.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:02:55 AMTelling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion. What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he. We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.YEAHwoo
Telling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion. What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he. We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:24:37 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:21:31 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:17:07 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with othersTheres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeopleArrogance may be one of them, sureBut its not the maon reasonAnyways im not really interested in discussing this with youAdvice you don't want to hear I the best advice you can take.Also, don't complain your level of intelligence is "awkward" and then say that it doesn't make it hard for you to connect with others.See this is the reason shrinks didn't work for you, you're so adamant about being complicated and saying that nobody could possibly understand you that when somebody gets it on the nose, you don't want to believe it.1. I also never saif my intelligence DOESNT hinder my ability to connect. It doesn,but there are other reasons too.2. Im so glad you know my experiences better than i do regarding shrinks.See, there you go again assuming you're unique.You're basically a textbook example.I know why shrinks won't work on you because its the most basic reason in the whole fucking world that therapy doesn't work on people, and you've conveyed that trait countless times in this thread alone.I've got news buddy,SpoilerYou're basic[./spoiler]
what a great guyhe's totally just misunderstood
Quote from: SecondClass on January 26, 2016, 01:36:39 AMwhat a great guyhe's totally just misunderstoodLOLwhat is humourYou dug up that old comment just to make me look badAnd you wonder why im "so mean" to youTake your butt buddy sol and go make another thread jerking each other off lmao
omg guys chill plz
"old"it's less than a week old
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:39:48 AMQuote from: SecondClass on January 26, 2016, 01:36:39 AMwhat a great guyhe's totally just misunderstoodLOLwhat is humourYou dug up that old comment just to make me look badAnd you wonder why im "so mean" to youTake your butt buddy sol and go make another thread jerking each other off lmao"old"it's less than a week old
Oh boy here we go again!
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:39:48 AMQuote from: SecondClass on January 26, 2016, 01:36:39 AMwhat a great guyhe's totally just misunderstoodLOLwhat is humourYou dug up that old comment just to make me look badAnd you wonder why im "so mean" to youTake your butt buddy sol and go make another thread jerking each other off lmao"Dug up"it's a pretty iconic commentnot really a joke, more like literally wishing death on another user because he spoiled a fucking movie for youeverything you've said about yourself ITT is true, don't let these other people tell you otherwiseyou're a scumbag bro
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:46:40 AMQuote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:41:05 AM"old"it's less than a week oldactually that's a week >.>it's not midnight yet where I am
Quote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:41:05 AM"old"it's less than a week oldactually that's a week >.>
He still woulda had to search through the forum to find it.Dug up seems appropriate, maybe not "old" tho
Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:31:27 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:24:37 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:21:31 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:17:07 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AMQuote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AMbecome enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with emIts also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshitAdditionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with othersTheres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeopleArrogance may be one of them, sureBut its not the maon reasonAnyways im not really interested in discussing this with youAdvice you don't want to hear I the best advice you can take.Also, don't complain your level of intelligence is "awkward" and then say that it doesn't make it hard for you to connect with others.See this is the reason shrinks didn't work for you, you're so adamant about being complicated and saying that nobody could possibly understand you that when somebody gets it on the nose, you don't want to believe it.1. I also never saif my intelligence DOESNT hinder my ability to connect. It doesn,but there are other reasons too.2. Im so glad you know my experiences better than i do regarding shrinks.See, there you go again assuming you're unique.You're basically a textbook example.I know why shrinks won't work on you because its the most basic reason in the whole fucking world that therapy doesn't work on people, and you've conveyed that trait countless times in this thread alone.I've got news buddy,SpoilerYou're basic[./spoiler]Lol whatHow do you get "assuming youre unique" from a sarcastic response regarding YOU making baseless assumptionsBut like i said, i dont have any interest in talking to you because you dont have anything to offer me. You clearly have some sort of bias against me and nothing youve said in this thread has been particularly helpful or accurate. Its not a matter of me not liking your advice, like you suggest. But rather, you just not understanding what im trying to say because you dont really want to.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:40:49 AMActually, for the first time in too long, yes. I don't feel I have to change. I just be myself. I am with someone who is herself. And we accept each other as we are. Neither of us thought it would last beyond 6 weeks. But we came to realize that life is too damned short for the drama we create for ourselves.Okay one last question I guess before I stop bothering with this (I got shit I really need to work on and these threads need to stop distracting me) what advice would you give to someone who fundamentally hates themselves? Because that's the core issue here.
Actually, for the first time in too long, yes. I don't feel I have to change. I just be myself. I am with someone who is herself. And we accept each other as we are. Neither of us thought it would last beyond 6 weeks. But we came to realize that life is too damned short for the drama we create for ourselves.
Quote from: Deci on January 26, 2016, 01:46:48 AMSeriously?
Ive literally never done anything to warrant your dislike for me
Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:47:15 AMHe still woulda had to search through the forum to find it.Dug up seems appropriate, maybe not "old" thoDug up implies that I had to search extensively for it. What you posted was a pretty fucked up comment, and plenty of people saved it. I don't know why you're trying to even defend himself here when you (supposedly) fundamentally hate yourself.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:49:33 AMQuote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:49:03 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:46:40 AMQuote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:41:05 AM"old"it's less than a week oldactually that's a week >.>it's not midnight yet where I amCali a shitwest coast is best coast
Quote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:49:03 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:46:40 AMQuote from: Kal on January 26, 2016, 01:41:05 AM"old"it's less than a week oldactually that's a week >.>it's not midnight yet where I amCali a shit
Quote from: TBlocks on January 26, 2016, 01:48:05 AMQuote from: Deci on January 26, 2016, 01:46:48 AMSeriously?What? You don't like Stephen Colbert?
Quote from: SecondClass on January 26, 2016, 01:49:36 AMQuote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:47:15 AMHe still woulda had to search through the forum to find it.Dug up seems appropriate, maybe not "old" thoDug up implies that I had to search extensively for it. What you posted was a pretty fucked up comment, and plenty of people saved it. I don't know why you're trying to even defend himself here when you (supposedly) fundamentally hate yourself.This i did not knowBut you still would have had to search through threads to find it, as i only changed my avatar yesterday to what it is nowSo yeah, you searched through the forum to find that commentWhich is fine, you do youBut admit it at least
It's been so long since my romantic feelings have been verbally reciprocated.
