It's actually not that far off base.
A ton of problems with people have to do with their parents or stuff that happened to them when they were young. and a lot of times it's something with your family.

You really have to keep an open mind...

I mean obviously id like to find the robin williams from good will hunting of psychologists but until that point

Ehh

Care to deconstruct the logic on that one? Your're not willing to bother with psyches anymore but you're hoping on finding a good one.

It's actually not that far of base.
A ton of problems with people have to do with their parents or stuff that happened to them when they were young. and a lot of times it's something with your family.

You really have to keep an open mind...

Except the psychologist jumped to that conclusion from the first thing said. Like, made a conclusion based on an opening sentence.

Quote from: Peach Turquoise on January 26, 2016, 12:38:35 AM

one day fruit

one day

*ahem*

Quote from: TBlocks on January 26, 2016, 01:02:50 AM

It's actually not that far of base.
A ton of problems with people have to do with their parents or stuff that happened to them when they were young. and a lot of times it's something with your family.

You really have to keep an open mind...

Except the psychologist jumped to that conclusion from the first thing said. Like, made a conclusion based on an opening sentence.

Well yeah that's on them but the thing is what do you do after that?
Do you get offended and never see a psych. again? Or do you continue on and say "I don't think that's the reason. Here's why."

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:00:41 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:58:15 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 12:53:37 AM

Or maybe not. Maybe they were telling you the truth.

"Why did you want to come see a psychologist after all this time?"

"I really want to figure out what's wrong with me on a fundamental level so that I can do well in school, set up a bright future for myself and increase my level of communication and friendliness with my friends, peers and family. I don't want to waste my parents time or money."

"Oh, so this is all about your parents, is it?"

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One thing however, is that with docs, you need to voice your point very clearly.

Well thats one of my problems yeah. I feel like im talking some basic shit but people dont understand what im saying. Its infuriating.

What you just posted up there is a really poor example. Dude, the first place you look is the parents. Then you look at the childhood.

Parents, whether they're there or not, give, fuck.... 90% of your traits to you.

Well im actually very different from my parents. Like, so much so that they used to joke that i was adopted.

But besides that, how do you get "its your parents fault" from what i said

Thats LITERALLY how it went down

See. Bingo. You're quick to judge and extremely quick on the defense.

For starters, I never said it was your parent's fault. Nor insinuated it. But that is always the first place you look for clues in order to start deconstructing.

Second. Just because you're different for your parents doesn't mean that you didn't get that from them.

For example. Say somebody has an asshole father. They might grow up to be a picture image of their father. But sometimes, you get people who are driven to go the opposite path because of the example set. There's variables here.

The key with docs is to talk. Over and over again. And try to break things down.

I won't lie. The field is plauged with shitty docs. If you're an american then chances are you're gonna get a bad roll because your medical system is literally pants on head retarded that way. But don't discredit right away. It takes time.

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:05:07 AM

Quote from: TBlocks on January 26, 2016, 01:02:50 AM

It's actually not that far of base.
A ton of problems with people have to do with their parents or stuff that happened to them when they were young. and a lot of times it's something with your family.

You really have to keep an open mind...

Except the psychologist jumped to that conclusion from the first thing said. Like, made a conclusion based on an opening sentence.

Well yeah that's on them but the thing is what do you do after that?
Do you get offended and never see a psych. again? Or do you continue on and say "I don't think that's the reason. Here's why."

You insult me tristan

I didnt make a rash decision after one meeting. I met with them for months. And nothing came out of it.

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:02:43 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:00:41 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:58:15 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 12:53:37 AM

Or maybe not. Maybe they were telling you the truth.

"Why did you want to come see a psychologist after all this time?"

"I really want to figure out what's wrong with me on a fundamental level so that I can do well in school, set up a bright future for myself and increase my level of communication and friendliness with my friends, peers and family. I don't want to waste my parents time or money."

"Oh, so this is all about your parents, is it?"

Quote

One thing however, is that with docs, you need to voice your point very clearly.

Well thats one of my problems yeah. I feel like im talking some basic shit but people dont understand what im saying. Its infuriating.

What you just posted up there is a really poor example. Dude, the first place you look is the parents. Then you look at the childhood.

Parents, whether they're there or not, give, fuck.... 90% of your traits to you.

Well im actually very different from my parents. Like, so much so that they used to joke that i was adopted.

But besides that, how do you get "its your parents fault" from what i said

Thats LITERALLY how it went down

See. Bingo. You're quick to judge and extremely quick on the defense.

For starters, I never said it was your parent's fault. Nor insinuated it. But that is always the first place you look for clues in order to start deconstructing.

Second. Just because you're different for your parents doesn't mean that you didn't get that from them.

For example. Say somebody has an asshole father. They might grow up to be a picture image of their father. But sometimes, you get people who are driven to go the opposite path because of the example set. There's variables here.

The key with docs is to talk. Over and over again. And try to break things down.

I won't lie. The field is plauged with shitty docs. If you're an american then chances are you're gonna get a bad roll because your medical system is literally pants on head retarded that way. But don't discredit right away. It takes time.

This.
Just this.

For starters, I never said it was your parent's fault. Nor insinuated it. But that is always the first place you look for clues in order to start deconstructing.

I get what you are saying and agree that the parents are a lot of times the issue. But again, that psychologist hadn't had repeat sessions and gained all this knowledge about the person they are questioning. They just walked through the door, said "hey this is why I'm here" and he made a conclusion.

Based on a greeting. Nobody knows what the true issue is from hearing a single phrase from someone they've never talked to.

See. Bingo. You're quick to judge and extremely quick on the defense.

I did neither of those things but okay

For starters, I never said it was your parent's fault.

And I never said you did. I said the SHRINK did.

I won't lie. The field is plauged with shitty docs. If you're an american then chances are you're gonna get a bad roll because your medical system is literally pants on head retarded that way. But don't discredit right away. It takes time.

Im canadian. I discredited it after months of experience, not one go.

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AM

Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AM

become enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.

You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.

Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with em

Its also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshit


Additionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.

If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.

If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.

I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with others

Theres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeople

Arrogance may be one of them, sure

But its not the maon reason

Anyways im not really interested in discussing this with you

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:14:10 AM

Okay. Let's slow the train down here. For starters I don't know quite what we're talking about here. I need some context. I'm tired and my eyes are bleeding. I'm not gonna go through that many pages.

Can you give me a quick summary?

I'm no specialist, but hey. Let's give it a shot. Discussion always lands somewhere.

Short and sweet:

The psychologist didn't say "so tell me about your parents" like psychologists do, implying he wants to get information.

He said "ok, so this is all about your parents is it?"

He made a conclusion.

No you dope. What is eli's issue? Why is he going to see psych's in the first place?

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 26, 2016, 01:17:49 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 26, 2016, 01:14:10 AM

Okay. Let's slow the train down here. For starters I don't know quite what we're talking about here. I need some context. I'm tired and my eyes are bleeding. I'm not gonna go through that many pages.

Can you give me a quick summary?

I'm no specialist, but hey. Let's give it a shot. Discussion always lands somewhere.

Short and sweet:

The psychologist didn't say "so tell me about your parents" like psychologists do, implying he wants to get information.

He said "ok, so this is all about your parents is it?"

He made a conclusion.

No you dope. What is eli's issue? Why is he going to see psych's in the first place?

Could have helped me know what you were asking specifically. ANYWAYS:

Edit: Nevermind, reply to Eli

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:17:07 AM

Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 01:11:37 AM

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 12:53:21 AM

Quote from: Kirlia on January 26, 2016, 12:49:39 AM

become enamoured in facets of that person which you do not understand instead of focusing on things you have in common.

You'll find the joy of discovering a person is more powerful than cold comfort gleaned by being in synchronicity with another.

Thats all well n good but you need to connect with someome on some level to be even just friends with em

Its also pretty clear to me that the opposite attract theory of tomance is dogshit


Additionally, thanks for being somewhat serious. Though, i think youre being a bit childish when you call me unintelligent just cuz we disagree.

If you find contentment in what you have in common with others, then you are not a creature of ambition, and it is not high intelligence, but arrogance which prevents you from connecting with others.

If that is the case, then humble yourself before others, that they may better convey themselves to you.

I never said it was high intelligence that doesnt allow me to connecy with others

Theres a ton of different reasons i dont connect with oeople

Arrogance may be one of them, sure

But its not the maon reason

Anyways im not really interested in discussing this with you

Advice you don't want to hear I the best advice you can take.

Also, don't complain your level of intelligence is "awkward" and then say that it doesn't make it hard for you to connect with others.

See this is the reason shrinks didn't work for you, you're so adamant about being complicated and saying that nobody could possibly understand you that when somebody gets it on the nose, you don't want to believe it.

1. I also never saif my intelligence DOESNT hinder my ability to connect. It doesn,but there are other reasons too.

2. Im so glad you know my experiences better than i do regarding shrinks.

Quote from: Eli on January 26, 2016, 01:07:37 AM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on January 26, 2016, 01:02:55 AM

Telling him to get help is counterproductive. What could a shrink tell him? Let his guard down? Some other pie in the sky bullshit? I've been to more than a few. They all read the same textbooks and give minor variations on the same shit. At the end of the day it comes down to Eli. Their advice boils down to telling a homeless person to get a job as a stockbroker buy a mansion.

What he needs is to just find someone who's there tomorrow. Not necessarily next week. Just tomorrow. Relearn self worth. If she's good enough for longer, great. If not, then oh well. She'll get someone tomorrow and so will he.

We're all broken. The game is just making tomorrow livable.

YEAH

woo

Tread carefully, 'ol Charles is one of the people that encouraged Roman.
We all know how that went.

Roman gets in where he fits in. Mad that he banged a fatty? That's your problem. He doesn't feel he has a problem. He feels happy.

People that fuck with him are the unhappy ones.