Quote from: SuperIrish on November 14, 2015, 07:08:37 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 07:05:02 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 14, 2015, 07:00:08 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 06:51:42 PMI have a question for those who disagree. What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.AT THIS TIMENOT TEN OR TWENTY YEARS AGOWhy does that make it irrelevant?And FYI, UDF are still around, and the IRA is just replaced by some more thugs. Not on a scale of the troubles sure, but fresh in minds of the many victims and survivors there.Setting a bullshit time-scale just because it doesn't suit your views is dishonest.Because I'm talking about now. About yesterday. IRA doesn't do shit anymore. Any Christian terrorist groups are barely anything compared to the Muslims.
Quote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 07:05:02 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on November 14, 2015, 07:00:08 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 06:51:42 PMI have a question for those who disagree. What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.AT THIS TIMENOT TEN OR TWENTY YEARS AGOWhy does that make it irrelevant?And FYI, UDF are still around, and the IRA is just replaced by some more thugs. Not on a scale of the troubles sure, but fresh in minds of the many victims and survivors there.Setting a bullshit time-scale just because it doesn't suit your views is dishonest.
Quote from: SuperIrish on November 14, 2015, 07:00:08 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 06:51:42 PMI have a question for those who disagree. What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.AT THIS TIMENOT TEN OR TWENTY YEARS AGO
Quote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 06:51:42 PMI have a question for those who disagree. What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.
I have a question for those who disagree. What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?
again, the fact that religions go from violent to secular serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violencethis "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sure
Quote from: Luciana on November 14, 2015, 07:13:03 PMI can't get into this discussion again after reading the crap for 30 minutes beforeyou guys have funChallenger, drink tea or somethingI like how you have zero answers for what I said about Paraguay.
I can't get into this discussion again after reading the crap for 30 minutes beforeyou guys have funChallenger, drink tea or something
Quote from: Tsirist on November 14, 2015, 07:16:03 PMagain, the fact that religions go from violent to secularWhich religion has done that? They're all violent and cause violence. Islam more than all the others. Quoteserves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violenceIt is the main cause of all the shit in the Middle East. Quotethis "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sureBecause I'm talking about now not the Crusades.
again, the fact that religions go from violent to secular
serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violence
this "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sure
Quote from: Tsirist on November 14, 2015, 07:16:03 PMagain, the fact that religions go from violent to secular serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violencethis "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sureModern Christianity isn't the same as it was back then. So they aren't real Christians. Islam however is the same old fucking shit it was back then.
Well after seeing the attacks on France, yeah I'm angry. And all the other attacks, and the ongoing attacks, and the inevitable attacks in the future. I think that when people are being slaughtered by primitive savages from ONE specific religion, it's fine to get pissed off. Also here's the thing... We're not talking about the past. Sure, 1000 years ago during the crusades, Christianity was the brutal religion of death, and was for a long time (though it should be noted Islam was too, and kind of always has been). But now in the modern day and age, Christianity isn't the source of violence on a large scale (now it's a victim of Islamic terrorism), so it's a moot point. We're talking about NOW, and right NOW Islam has happy bunches of uni-brow, black-bearded goat fuckers slaughtering innocent people in Europe brutally and torturing whoever they please in the Middle East. So when you tell me "lol Islam isn't alone, other did it in the past!" it literally means NOTHING, because we're not worried about the past. These assholes truly believe they're embroiled in a holy war, and this war amounts to one, cold-hearted, simple truth: The eradication of infidels, or the eradication of Islam
. It will never end until it is cleaned off from the planet. If not, this kind of bullshit will carry on for hundreds of years, until our children's children's children grow the balls to do what needs to be done.
You are, no offense. Not everybody is a fucking drug dealer in South America.
Tough fucking cookie. You guys are being stupid and it's pissing me off.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 14, 2015, 07:30:35 PMGUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERSIslam was always violent. All the other religions have calmed down. HMMSTRANGE
GUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERS
"Just its time"IT WAS ALWAYS FUCKING VIOLENTThis isn't some teenager going through a phase, this is fucking murder of innocent people because of that barbaric religion.
Most hate the West. A lot are terrorists.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 14, 2015, 07:30:35 PMGUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERSAll the other religions have calmed down. HMMSTRANGE
and then I wonder how the Republicans will
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 14, 2015, 07:34:55 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 07:32:42 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 14, 2015, 07:30:35 PMGUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERSIslam was always violent. All the other religions have calmed down. HMMSTRANGEYeah, only took the others a couple thousand years.And Islam is still extremely violent. HMMMMMMMHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HOW STRANGE
Quote from: challengerX on November 14, 2015, 07:32:42 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on November 14, 2015, 07:30:35 PMGUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERSIslam was always violent. All the other religions have calmed down. HMMSTRANGEYeah, only took the others a couple thousand years.