Is Islam a violent religion?

 
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

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I have a question for those who disagree.

What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?

I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.
AT THIS TIME

NOT TEN OR TWENTY YEARS AGO

Why does that make it irrelevant?

And FYI, UDF are still around, and the IRA is just replaced by some more thugs. Not on a scale of the troubles sure, but fresh in minds of the many victims and survivors there.

Setting a bullshit time-scale just because it doesn't suit your views is dishonest.
Because I'm talking about now. About yesterday.

IRA doesn't do shit anymore. Any Christian terrorist groups are barely anything compared to the Muslims.

LOL

Ignoring recent history simply to keep your viewpoint going is just ridiculous.

I see there was no plan to have true discourse here about it, at least with you. Ta-ta!


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again, the fact that religions go from violent to secular serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violence

this "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sure
Modern Christianity isn't the same as it was back then. So they aren't real Christians.

Islam however is the same old fucking shit it was back then.


 
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I can't get into this discussion again after reading the crap for 30 minutes before

you guys have fun

Challenger, drink tea or something
I like how you have zero answers for what I said about Paraguay.
Oh I missed it

i'm not ignorant

They messed with Latin America and look at the situation there. Same with a few middle eastern countries here or there. Iunno, Mexico doesn't want death to America either. Nor do a lot of Latin countries. They're embroiled in their own conflicts.

my point with calming down still stands. You have a nasty habit of insulting people when you debate and it's generally very displeasing. Otherwise you're a nice person to talk to, but when you get like this it's just ugh.


 
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again, the fact that religions go from violent to secular
Which religion has done that? They're all violent and cause violence. Islam more than all the others.

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serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violence
It is the main cause of all the shit in the Middle East.

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this "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sure
Because I'm talking about now not the Crusades.
I don't disagree on the point regarding all religions causing problems. Somehow even Buddhism has some history there. Still, I think we can agree that Christianity and many others have been fairly well integrated with many secular societies. Islam, right now, causes a lot of violence in the middle east. I guess it's just its time.


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again, the fact that religions go from violent to secular serves ONLY as evidence that the religion is not the sole cause of the violence

this "it's not about then it's about now" meme is a good one for sure
Modern Christianity isn't the same as it was back then. So they aren't real Christians.

Islam however is the same old fucking shit it was back then.
Is this true also of the form of Islam that is integrated with first world countries? I know a lot of secular Muslims personally. I think they're perfectly fine people, not really out burning people at the stakes or anything. They often support various progressive rights too (probably because they're young and educated).


 
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Well after seeing the attacks on France, yeah I'm angry. And all the other attacks, and the ongoing attacks, and the inevitable attacks in the future. I think that when people are being slaughtered by primitive savages from ONE specific religion, it's fine to get pissed off.

Also here's the thing... We're not talking about the past. Sure, 1000 years ago during the crusades, Christianity was the brutal religion of death, and was for a long time (though it should be noted Islam was too, and kind of always has been). But now in the modern day and age, Christianity isn't the source of violence on a large scale (now it's a victim of Islamic terrorism), so it's a moot point. We're talking about NOW, and right NOW Islam has happy bunches of uni-brow, black-bearded goat fuckers slaughtering innocent people in Europe brutally and torturing whoever they please in the Middle East. So when you tell me "lol Islam isn't alone, other did it in the past!" it literally means NOTHING, because we're not worried about the past. These assholes truly believe they're embroiled in a holy war, and this war amounts to one, cold-hearted, simple truth: The eradication of infidels, or the eradication of Islam
It was pretty bad. I wonder what the fallout from it all will be.

I wasn't bringing up the Crusades or anything when I mentioned it though. I was more so thinking of the KKK or priests diddling young boys. They're part of that religion but we don't ever seem to hold it in the same weight. We see them as shit individuals.

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. It will never end until it is cleaned off from the planet. If not, this kind of bullshit will carry on for hundreds of years, until our children's children's children grow the balls to do what needs to be done.
This seems a bit far fetched too. Fighting fire with fire is almost never the answer, and it would only deescalate the situation even more if you ask me. Calling for a genocide isn't TRULY what you believe, is it? I know emotions are high, but in times like this logic should be the deciding factor. Not emotional response.


 
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All 3 Abrahamic religions are.


 
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GUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERS


 
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You are, no offense. Not everybody is a fucking drug dealer in South America.
And not everyone in the middle east is a terrorist or supporter of the fall of the West

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Tough fucking cookie. You guys are being stupid and it's pissing me off.
I think it's safe to hand you the irony card and call it a night. Stay mad I guess.


edit: before you say i skipped things, I want to point out that while they're not doing terrorist activities, that doesn't suddenly negate them of all the crap going on in those countries
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
GUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERS
Islam was always violent. All the other religions have calmed down.

HMM

STRANGE
Yeah, only took the others a couple thousand years.


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"Just its time"

IT WAS ALWAYS FUCKING VIOLENT

This isn't some teenager going through a phase, this is fucking murder of innocent people because of that barbaric religion.
rofl it's ok man, just keep calm

you telling me we have no peaceful relations with any muslims elsewhere? i would suggest you brush up on your foreign policy.

islam is always violent like every other religion is


 
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Most hate the West. A lot are terrorists.




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Grow up, dude.


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GUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERS
All the other religions have calmed down.

HMM

STRANGE

Calmed down my arse.


 
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Oh right, the democratic debate is on tonight

I wonder how they'll respond to this

and then I wonder how the Republicans will


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
How are Indonesian and Malaysian terrorists doing these days?


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and then I wonder how the Republicans will
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Mother fuckers don't realize core values of Islam are simply not compatible with western societies.



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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
GUYS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES, ONLY TODAY MATTERS
Islam was always violent. All the other religions have calmed down.

HMM

STRANGE
Yeah, only took the others a couple thousand years.
And Islam is still extremely violent.

HMMMMMMM

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HOW STRANGE
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It was founded by a warlord and it was raised by violence.