Is Islam a violent religion?

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Does it have elements in its doctrine that encourage violence?

Is it predisposed to encourage oppression and conflict?

Is it just a matter of the region of the world that extremism is predominant?

What makes Islamic terrorism more prominent than other forms of religious terrorism?

I'm trying to learn more about this question in light of the Paris attacks, and I don't want to be on the wrong side of the debate. I don't know exactly what to believe, but I can't ignore the amount of violence that seems to be done in the name of the Islamic religion. What exactly is going on here?


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.


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The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
So the last thing overrules and cancels out anything before it?


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Is this even a question


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm
I'm all for continuing the discussion with new people, and considering my views changed because of that argument, it's a smart thing to do. I already know what people are going to say on Bungle; I know what their views are. I don't know a lot of the views of people here, though, and think that discussing it is one of the best ways I'll be able to refine my views on it and get more informed.


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
Like pony faggots matter


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
Like pony faggots matter
They have about as much pony fags in that group as this one does


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
So the last thing overrules and cancels out anything before it?
Yes.


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
whatchoo talkin bout
This discussion just got over with on Bungle.

Mostly Pyro vs. me

I lost the argument, easily. He's saying that because I lost it there, I'm just trying to bring it here so I can get more people on my side, but that's not what's happening. I want to discuss it, because I don't really know how I feel.


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I know what their views are. I don't know a lot of the views of people here, though
A bunch of ignorant people with a dose of actual intellectual thought. Visit the serious more often and you'd know what I'm talking about.


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
whatchoo talkin bout
This discussion just got over with on Bungle.

Mostly Pyro vs. me

I lost the argument, easily. He's saying that because I lost it there, I'm just trying to bring it here so I can get more people on my side, but that's not what's happening. I want to discuss it, because I don't really know how I feel.
What did he say
I don't feel like anybody has the right to explain someone else's argument besides themselves.


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The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
So the last thing overrules and cancels out anything before it?
Yes.
Oh wow. That's such bullshit.

That's like saying "blah blah x infinity" when kids argue. This shit is literally written up retards isn't it?


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I have a question for those who disagree.

What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?

LOL nobody answers, because they know what the answer is. Pussies are burying their heads in the dirt.


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The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
Where does it say that?


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I thought you were done talking about that discussion over at Bungleboards.

Hmmmm

Guess it's not fun when someone brings more knowledge to the table as you do and is the opposing argument.
whatchoo talkin bout
This discussion just got over with on Bungle.

Mostly Pyro vs. me

I lost the argument, easily. He's saying that because I lost it there, I'm just trying to bring it here so I can get more people on my side, but that's not what's happening. I want to discuss it, because I don't really know how I feel.
What did he say
I don't feel like anybody has the right to explain someone else's argument besides themselves.
What's his fucking stance
Islam isn't a violent religion, it's the region of the world and what's happened to it that causes all of the hatred and violence. Religion is just the scapegoat.


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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
It's difficult to make up a solid conclusion because the Quran is very contradictory.  Like in regards to apostasy,  it'll say kill apostates wherever you find them but then a couple verses later it'll say leave everyone to their own beliefs or lack thereof. As with murder, kill them where ever you find them and then later it reads if you kill one person it's as if you've killed the whole of humanity.



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I have a question for those who disagree.

What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?

LOL nobody answers, because they know what the answer is. Pussies are burying their heads in the dirt.
No one is answering because it's a loaded question, Issac Newton.


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The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
So the last thing overrules and cancels out anything before it?
Yes.
Oh wow. That's such bullshit.

That's like saying "blah blah x infinity" when kids argue. This shit is literally written up retards isn't it?
Eh, it's kinda like retconning I guess.


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Are they screaming death to America and attacking Americans?

No. They aren't.
I think they're too busy on the drug market to give a shit about religion. That is still killing tons of people.


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The final book of the Qur'an is rife with violence, which many think contradicts the core values of any abrahamic faith...
Islam has a very clear rule about contradictions though. Whatever was written last is the law and the final word of God.
Where does it say that?
I'd get ya my source if I weren't out onnaphone.


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Islam isn't a violent religion, it's the region of the world and what's happened to it that causes all of the hatred and violence. Religion is just the scapegoat.
This is an extremely naive view on the matter. Is this fucker a liberal?


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

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I have a question for those who disagree.

What other group of religious people at this time attack other people this frequently and violently? Attacks on innocent civilians solely to scare people?

I'd point towards the UDF and IRA. It moved on from a fight about land to bombings based on whether you were Catholic or Protestant. Hell, many people in Belfast share that hostile sentiment and judge your religion just by your name.


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It's not my job to represent someone else in an argument. That's not what this thread is about. I just want to talk to people about the issue and why they believe or disbelieve Islam is the cause of violence. Does anyone just want to offer their analyses or sources on both sides of the argument?