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Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:02:14 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.I can't believe I am replying to this obvious bait post, and I especially can't believe I am replying with the following statement, butmusic is mostly subjective, so album sales do not necessarily equal higher quality of music.
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.
Drake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:15:25 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:13:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:11:13 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:07:39 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:04:12 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.The lyrical themes in Hip Hop are not necessarily an important aspect of the genre, as what is more important is wordplay, "flow," production, etc.You haven't listened to "most rap" so you have no reason to make such a retarded statement as "most rap is actually shit."I've actually listened to a LOT of rap, so I can back my statement up with that. I went through a rap phase a while back.Have you ever actually sat down and listened to Korn's S/T album in it's entirety?Considering how many Hip Hop artists there are, you cannot possibly know how "most" of them sound just by listening to "a lot."No, I've heard enough to know it is not music that I like.A lot as in most who have gained any notability.What songs in particular did you hear?Notability means nothing. The style of music played by popular Hip Hop artists is vastly different from the style played by Hip Hop artists further from the spotlight.I don't remember their names.
Quote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:13:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:11:13 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:07:39 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:04:12 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.The lyrical themes in Hip Hop are not necessarily an important aspect of the genre, as what is more important is wordplay, "flow," production, etc.You haven't listened to "most rap" so you have no reason to make such a retarded statement as "most rap is actually shit."I've actually listened to a LOT of rap, so I can back my statement up with that. I went through a rap phase a while back.Have you ever actually sat down and listened to Korn's S/T album in it's entirety?Considering how many Hip Hop artists there are, you cannot possibly know how "most" of them sound just by listening to "a lot."No, I've heard enough to know it is not music that I like.A lot as in most who have gained any notability.What songs in particular did you hear?
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:11:13 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:07:39 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:04:12 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.The lyrical themes in Hip Hop are not necessarily an important aspect of the genre, as what is more important is wordplay, "flow," production, etc.You haven't listened to "most rap" so you have no reason to make such a retarded statement as "most rap is actually shit."I've actually listened to a LOT of rap, so I can back my statement up with that. I went through a rap phase a while back.Have you ever actually sat down and listened to Korn's S/T album in it's entirety?Considering how many Hip Hop artists there are, you cannot possibly know how "most" of them sound just by listening to "a lot."No, I've heard enough to know it is not music that I like.
Quote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:07:39 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:04:12 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.The lyrical themes in Hip Hop are not necessarily an important aspect of the genre, as what is more important is wordplay, "flow," production, etc.You haven't listened to "most rap" so you have no reason to make such a retarded statement as "most rap is actually shit."I've actually listened to a LOT of rap, so I can back my statement up with that. I went through a rap phase a while back.Have you ever actually sat down and listened to Korn's S/T album in it's entirety?
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:04:12 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.The lyrical themes in Hip Hop are not necessarily an important aspect of the genre, as what is more important is wordplay, "flow," production, etc.You haven't listened to "most rap" so you have no reason to make such a retarded statement as "most rap is actually shit."
Quote from: Jive Turkey on September 02, 2015, 01:49:59 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoffBut most rap is actually shit. It's all the same, hoez and money.And I do like some rappers, by the way.
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 12:08:30 PMI can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.That's just like, your 'pinion, man. Plus it's trendy to hate on it, anyway.I honestly have to say I didn't really like it at first, but it has grown on me.What do you listen to that makes your bandwagon opinion so valid?Aka:logthefuckoff
I can count the number of good rappers on my two hands. Drake is not one of them. Rap in general is a heap of dogshit, and you are stupid normie scum for listening to shit like Kanye or Drake or whatever nigger is trending these days.
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 01:03:28 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:02:14 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.But Taylor Swift sells lots of albums.So does Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus, Kanye West, One Direction and the like.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:02:14 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.But Taylor Swift sells lots of albums.
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:04:38 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 01:03:28 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:02:14 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.But Taylor Swift sells lots of albums.So does Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus, Kanye West, One Direction and the like.And they're all great artists
Well if you could care to show me one of those obscure artists I'd be more than happy to give it a listen. I always like finding new people to listen to.
Quote from: PSU on September 02, 2015, 02:28:09 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:04:38 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 01:03:28 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:02:14 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on September 02, 2015, 12:32:35 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.selling=/=goodJust look the Beatles.Selling = people consume it, and in the entertainment industry, people constantly consuming it means it's good. People won't buy or listen to his music if he was as bad as people claim he is.But Taylor Swift sells lots of albums.So does Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus, Kanye West, One Direction and the like.And they're all great artistsYeah man, they're just fantastic
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:18:25 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.the labels do not care if he is OBJECTIVELY good, and it's impossible to truly say that an artist is OBJECTIVELY good as far as we know.They will sign him if he brings them money because a lot of people like him. That doesn't mean he's good objectively, that means that to many people he is subjectively seen as good.
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.
Quote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.Stop
Quote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 02:27:41 PMWell if you could care to show me one of those obscure artists I'd be more than happy to give it a listen. I always like finding new people to listen to.Danny Brown.Clipping.I think you already like Death Grips.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:31:51 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:21:10 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:18:25 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.the labels do not care if he is OBJECTIVELY good, and it's impossible to truly say that an artist is OBJECTIVELY good as far as we know.They will sign him if he brings them money because a lot of people like him. That doesn't mean he's good objectively, that means that to many people he is subjectively seen as good.This is what I've been saying, Jim. Also it really depends on the label as to whether or not they think you're good. They could sign a guy who is building momentum as an independent or they could scout out people who have legit talent. On the issue of Drake, he did a few tapes and pulled some strings to where Wayne listen to it and signed him. Wayne had to think he was good to some extent. Ans once Drake got put on by YMCMB it was over. He is on top of the rap game due to talent, because there are people signed to YMCMB that we haven't even heard of.But what you are trying to say is that an artist is good BECAUSE people like them. That is not the case.
Quote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:21:10 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:18:25 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.the labels do not care if he is OBJECTIVELY good, and it's impossible to truly say that an artist is OBJECTIVELY good as far as we know.They will sign him if he brings them money because a lot of people like him. That doesn't mean he's good objectively, that means that to many people he is subjectively seen as good.This is what I've been saying, Jim. Also it really depends on the label as to whether or not they think you're good. They could sign a guy who is building momentum as an independent or they could scout out people who have legit talent. On the issue of Drake, he did a few tapes and pulled some strings to where Wayne listen to it and signed him. Wayne had to think he was good to some extent. Ans once Drake got put on by YMCMB it was over. He is on top of the rap game due to talent, because there are people signed to YMCMB that we haven't even heard of.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:38:18 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:34:53 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:31:51 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:21:10 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:18:25 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.the labels do not care if he is OBJECTIVELY good, and it's impossible to truly say that an artist is OBJECTIVELY good as far as we know.They will sign him if he brings them money because a lot of people like him. That doesn't mean he's good objectively, that means that to many people he is subjectively seen as good.This is what I've been saying, Jim. Also it really depends on the label as to whether or not they think you're good. They could sign a guy who is building momentum as an independent or they could scout out people who have legit talent. On the issue of Drake, he did a few tapes and pulled some strings to where Wayne listen to it and signed him. Wayne had to think he was good to some extent. Ans once Drake got put on by YMCMB it was over. He is on top of the rap game due to talent, because there are people signed to YMCMB that we haven't even heard of.But what you are trying to say is that an artist is good BECAUSE people like them. That is not the case.I don't see how you can easily measure whether something is good besides opinion on a grand scale.In my deeply elitist heart I like to believe there is some hidden means of measuring quality that will one day prove my glorious taste in things to be the correct one, but everything is probably just all subjective and cannot truly be measured by anything other than your own emotions.
Quote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:34:53 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:31:51 PMQuote from: Jim on September 02, 2015, 02:21:10 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 02:18:25 PMQuote from: (sic) on September 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 01:00:46 PMQuote from: The Lord Ruler on September 02, 2015, 12:23:18 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 11:03:16 AMDrake is the best rapper of today, if not all time. I'd even say he's one of the best musicians of all time. Most number ones, platinum sells on all his work, and a Grammy. Not to mention he bodied meek. You can't touch him.StopIs that all you got? Couldn't contradict the fact that he has numerous awards by actually music critics and is selling in the millions constantly? Okay.Being popular doesn't equate to being good. The masses don't seek out good music, they just listen to what's being shoved into their faces by big labels.You guys keep making this argument, but you're forgetting good is subjective. Let me break it down. Drake has millions of fans, and those fans like his music. Thus there are millions of people who thinks he's good. And in regards to labels, they're not just going to sign someone who is bad or they'll lose money. And let's not forget Drake is a Canadian Jew from the suburbs who acted on a teen sitcom. The rap game isn't going to accept him if he's anything less than good.the labels do not care if he is OBJECTIVELY good, and it's impossible to truly say that an artist is OBJECTIVELY good as far as we know.They will sign him if he brings them money because a lot of people like him. That doesn't mean he's good objectively, that means that to many people he is subjectively seen as good.This is what I've been saying, Jim. Also it really depends on the label as to whether or not they think you're good. They could sign a guy who is building momentum as an independent or they could scout out people who have legit talent. On the issue of Drake, he did a few tapes and pulled some strings to where Wayne listen to it and signed him. Wayne had to think he was good to some extent. Ans once Drake got put on by YMCMB it was over. He is on top of the rap game due to talent, because there are people signed to YMCMB that we haven't even heard of.But what you are trying to say is that an artist is good BECAUSE people like them. That is not the case.I don't see how you can easily measure whether something is good besides opinion on a grand scale.
Every rapper is a bad rapper.
actually, pop music is the most popular genrethat's why it's called pop music
Quote from: Mr Whiteflame on September 02, 2015, 06:36:20 PMEvery rapper is a bad rapper.Yet it's the most popular genre. Yet they're constantly getting awards and influencing our culture. I bet you're one of those people who listen to obscure rock music alone in their room.
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 08:52:35 PMQuote from: Mr Whiteflame on September 02, 2015, 06:36:20 PMEvery rapper is a bad rapper.Yet it's the most popular genre. Yet they're constantly getting awards and influencing our culture. I bet you're one of those people who listen to obscure rock music alone in their room.What's wrong with obscure rock or obscure music in general?Popularity =/= qualityThe general population doesn't actually know much about music on a technical level and if its good or not. Fucking Justin Bieber is even more popular than Drake would you say Justin Bieber is a better musician than Drake?
Quote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 09:08:48 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on September 02, 2015, 09:07:39 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 08:52:35 PMQuote from: Mr Whiteflame on September 02, 2015, 06:36:20 PMEvery rapper is a bad rapper.Yet it's the most popular genre. Yet they're constantly getting awards and influencing our culture. I bet you're one of those people who listen to obscure rock music alone in their room.What's wrong with obscure rock or obscure music in general?Popularity =/= qualityThe general population doesn't actually know much about music on a technical level and if its good or not. Fucking Justin Bieber is even more popular than Drake would you say Justin Bieber is a better musician than Drake?I've already addressed this, slash. I've already addressed this.yeah you've addressed that popularity = quality and that's incorrect
Quote from: SoporificSlash on September 02, 2015, 09:07:39 PMQuote from: Lord Starch on September 02, 2015, 08:52:35 PMQuote from: Mr Whiteflame on September 02, 2015, 06:36:20 PMEvery rapper is a bad rapper.Yet it's the most popular genre. Yet they're constantly getting awards and influencing our culture. I bet you're one of those people who listen to obscure rock music alone in their room.What's wrong with obscure rock or obscure music in general?Popularity =/= qualityThe general population doesn't actually know much about music on a technical level and if its good or not. Fucking Justin Bieber is even more popular than Drake would you say Justin Bieber is a better musician than Drake?I've already addressed this, slash. I've already addressed this.
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