In regards to the recent legislation proposed because of Las Vegas...

Chakas · October 15, 2017, 09:48:50 PM

I believe this gentleman pretty well describes the problems with proposed legislation

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Here's another quote that I think makes a good point.

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See, that's just it. There is no standard rate of fire.

So, they just blanket ban everything that could possibly increase the rate of fire.

So, if you have two guys standing next to each other at the range and the 1st guy is an expert and shoots 4 times faster than the 2nd guy with no mods. So the second guy installs some mods that help him double his rate of fire (to still only 1/2 the 1st guy) his mods would be illegal even though he is still firing slower than the first guy.

It's beyond absurd.

Semi-auto vs Automatic is at least a feasible premise because it is a specific mechanic FUNCTION.

Rate of fire is not feasible because there is no such thing as a "stock" rate of fire and it would be impossible to enforce a limit of X rounds per second.

So, they are doing both the laziest and most dangerous thing....banning anything that improves the rate of fire.

It would be like a politician that wants to stop people from going over 100mph, but instead of actually just making a speed limit, or even banning specific cars that can go over 100mph......they just ban anything that makes a car go faster.

Faster than what? No idea. Fuck you, we're the government.

Does that include better tires? Better gas? A gripper shifter knob lol?

Well, it all depends on the mood of the asshole interpreting the law at the moment.

They will tell you it's just about "Nitrous boosting" but when you piss off the wrong person you will find out it was also about tires and premium gas or whatever.

Insidious wording indeed.

DAS B00T x2 · October 15, 2017, 09:52:54 PM

This bill is fundamentally flawed from the ground up though and the ATF could actually decide that it doesn't ban bump stocks... for you see... What is a rate increasing device? It increases a rate of fire, right? How is the RoF of a weapon determined? Theory. Cyclic rates. Assuming the fastest possible trigger pull you calculate the theoretical sustained rounds per minute fired based on the time it takes for the action of the firearm to cycle.

Triggers and bump stocks don't affect that at all. Weirdly enough, the cyclic rate is best adjusted by changing the weight of the bolt carrier and buffer in the absence of an adjustable gas port. So... in effect they just ban skeletonized BCG's.

Jono · October 15, 2017, 11:00:43 PM

But what does the expert on politics and government Jimmy Kimmel think about this?

Thrasher · October 15, 2017, 11:59:01 PM

It's a good thing criminals follow laws. Finally no more gun crime.

MyNameIsCharlie · October 16, 2017, 01:03:18 AM

The Vegas shooter wasn't a criminal until he shot. There was nothing to point us at him. He wasn't insane. He wasn't radicalized. There were no early warning signs. Standing on a purely intellectual platform of "this only restricts law abiders and not criminals" doesn't fit here. This guy was a "law abiding" citizen until he shot. I'm sorry, but you are wrong here.

Flee · October 16, 2017, 04:32:04 AM