Vader wasn't even the strongest in both movie canon and the EU so I'm not seeing why that's a negative. Being the one that's supposed to balance the force doesn't mean being the most powerful being ever.
Both Luke and old man obi matched the power of his robo limbs so I'm not seeing the issue.
I'm not seeing how it's sideways retarded to use the secret apprentice to draw out the leaders of the rebellion and capture them, but ok.
The gameplay was solid
Quote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 09:22:51 PMVader wasn't even the strongest in both movie canon and the EU so I'm not seeing why that's a negative. Being the one that's supposed to balance the force doesn't mean being the most powerful being ever.He is now. More powerful than Sheev at least. Anakin would have been to most powerful force wielder in the galaxy had he not lost all his limbs and was burned. That's from the man George Lucas himself.QuoteBoth Luke and old man obi matched the power of his robo limbs so I'm not seeing the issue.Vader didn't want to kill Luke and Vader was playing with his food with Obi-wan. Vader can easily overpower his enemies.YouTubeQuoteI'm not seeing how it's sideways retarded to use the secret apprentice to draw out the leaders of the rebellion and capture them, but ok.Sheev: K lol, captured rebels. Gonna talk and brag instead of killing u k?*rebels escape*Sheev: all according to plan, amirite Vader? lol go hunt them down and never kill them even though we know who they are and they are public officials of the senate and could use their public lives against them. k.Vader: lol k mastur, gonna go clone that guy that was super stronger than us, cuz sith always want a threat to their power. talk to you l8r.QuoteThe gameplay was solid
However, I must say the "Chosen One"/Vader is space Jesus thing is so retarded. He didn't have to be the most powerful of all or the center of some grand prophecy.
Quote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 09:14:03 PMNothing I said was a nitpick. Those are all major issues with this response. You can't refute someone who's making an argument with I don't like your opinion, pointing out an extremely minor thing that does absolutely nothing to address the point the other party is making, and using your imagination to prove yourself right. It's a 109 page response. So yes, you picking out that one small thing in his rebuttal is just as much nitpicking as is him picking out Stoklasa's mistake with the timing of when Anakin shows up. Like I said, it's all subjective, which you've clearly just proven.QuoteHe goes into detail on some things to explain why Plinkett is wrong. A lot of that information and characterization isn't made in the movies.Yes it is? I've never read any EU about Qui-Gon Jin, and all the characterizations the person lists are in the movie if you actually watch it. Same with Padme and Anakin. All of his examples that he uses are from the movies.Quote Also using Qui-Gons role as a father figure to explain why the people who couldn't describe him without using his profession, looks, costume, or role only proves Plinkett right. Something tells me you didn't actually read this and just skimmed, as that's not the point the author was making. Yes he said idolized father figure, as a lead into the examples that could be used. However, it was not an example itself. Reading comprehension skills come in handy.
Nothing I said was a nitpick. Those are all major issues with this response. You can't refute someone who's making an argument with I don't like your opinion, pointing out an extremely minor thing that does absolutely nothing to address the point the other party is making, and using your imagination to prove yourself right.
He goes into detail on some things to explain why Plinkett is wrong. A lot of that information and characterization isn't made in the movies.
Also using Qui-Gons role as a father figure to explain why the people who couldn't describe him without using his profession, looks, costume, or role only proves Plinkett right.
Quote from: Tackel on October 21, 2015, 10:20:45 PMQuote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 09:22:51 PMVader wasn't even the strongest in both movie canon and the EU so I'm not seeing why that's a negative. Being the one that's supposed to balance the force doesn't mean being the most powerful being ever.He is now. More powerful than Sheev at least. Anakin would have been to most powerful force wielder in the galaxy had he not lost all his limbs and was burned. That's from the man George Lucas himself.QuoteBoth Luke and old man obi matched the power of his robo limbs so I'm not seeing the issue.Vader didn't want to kill Luke and Vader was playing with his food with Obi-wan. Vader can easily overpower his enemies.YouTubeQuoteI'm not seeing how it's sideways retarded to use the secret apprentice to draw out the leaders of the rebellion and capture them, but ok.Sheev: K lol, captured rebels. Gonna talk and brag instead of killing u k?*rebels escape*Sheev: all according to plan, amirite Vader? lol go hunt them down and never kill them even though we know who they are and they are public officials of the senate and could use their public lives against them. k.Vader: lol k mastur, gonna go clone that guy that was super stronger than us, cuz sith always want a threat to their power. talk to you l8r.QuoteThe gameplay was solidI love how the OT emphasizes that the Force is something beyond the physical, and then the PT states that Vader is less powerful because he doesn't have any limbs, lol. It makes sense in regards to force lightning but the ability to use force lightning doesn't dictate if you're the most powerful or not. Vader js supposed to be powerful, I'd argue among the most powerful. However, I must say the "Chosen One"/Vader is space Jesus thing is so retarded. He didn't have to be the most powerful of all or the center of some grand prophecy. You're correct in regards to Vader toying with Luke and Obi-Wan and being perfectly capable of defeating them quickly.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on October 21, 2015, 10:43:39 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 21, 2015, 10:20:45 PMQuote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 09:22:51 PMVader wasn't even the strongest in both movie canon and the EU so I'm not seeing why that's a negative. Being the one that's supposed to balance the force doesn't mean being the most powerful being ever.He is now. More powerful than Sheev at least. Anakin would have been to most powerful force wielder in the galaxy had he not lost all his limbs and was burned. That's from the man George Lucas himself.QuoteBoth Luke and old man obi matched the power of his robo limbs so I'm not seeing the issue.Vader didn't want to kill Luke and Vader was playing with his food with Obi-wan. Vader can easily overpower his enemies.YouTubeQuoteI'm not seeing how it's sideways retarded to use the secret apprentice to draw out the leaders of the rebellion and capture them, but ok.Sheev: K lol, captured rebels. Gonna talk and brag instead of killing u k?*rebels escape*Sheev: all according to plan, amirite Vader? lol go hunt them down and never kill them even though we know who they are and they are public officials of the senate and could use their public lives against them. k.Vader: lol k mastur, gonna go clone that guy that was super stronger than us, cuz sith always want a threat to their power. talk to you l8r.QuoteThe gameplay was solidI love how the OT emphasizes that the Force is something beyond the physical, and then the PT states that Vader is less powerful because he doesn't have any limbs, lol. It makes sense in regards to force lightning but the ability to use force lightning doesn't dictate if you're the most powerful or not. Vader js supposed to be powerful, I'd argue among the most powerful. However, I must say the "Chosen One"/Vader is space Jesus thing is so retarded. He didn't have to be the most powerful of all or the center of some grand prophecy. You're correct in regards to Vader toying with Luke and Obi-Wan and being perfectly capable of defeating them quickly.I like how you're using new canon in a discussion about how TFU fits into old canon.Sidious toyed with people a lot and had his plans backfire because of it multiple times. I'm not seeing how this is out of character for him. Also assassinating rebel leaders and covering it up is a lot better than publicly outing them, letting them speak, and showing that the rebellion had a lot more traction and power than the empire was letting on.
Quote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 11:36:33 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on October 21, 2015, 10:43:39 PMQuote from: Tackel on October 21, 2015, 10:20:45 PMQuote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 09:22:51 PMVader wasn't even the strongest in both movie canon and the EU so I'm not seeing why that's a negative. Being the one that's supposed to balance the force doesn't mean being the most powerful being ever.He is now. More powerful than Sheev at least. Anakin would have been to most powerful force wielder in the galaxy had he not lost all his limbs and was burned. That's from the man George Lucas himself.QuoteBoth Luke and old man obi matched the power of his robo limbs so I'm not seeing the issue.Vader didn't want to kill Luke and Vader was playing with his food with Obi-wan. Vader can easily overpower his enemies.YouTubeQuoteI'm not seeing how it's sideways retarded to use the secret apprentice to draw out the leaders of the rebellion and capture them, but ok.Sheev: K lol, captured rebels. Gonna talk and brag instead of killing u k?*rebels escape*Sheev: all according to plan, amirite Vader? lol go hunt them down and never kill them even though we know who they are and they are public officials of the senate and could use their public lives against them. k.Vader: lol k mastur, gonna go clone that guy that was super stronger than us, cuz sith always want a threat to their power. talk to you l8r.QuoteThe gameplay was solidI love how the OT emphasizes that the Force is something beyond the physical, and then the PT states that Vader is less powerful because he doesn't have any limbs, lol. It makes sense in regards to force lightning but the ability to use force lightning doesn't dictate if you're the most powerful or not. Vader js supposed to be powerful, I'd argue among the most powerful. However, I must say the "Chosen One"/Vader is space Jesus thing is so retarded. He didn't have to be the most powerful of all or the center of some grand prophecy. You're correct in regards to Vader toying with Luke and Obi-Wan and being perfectly capable of defeating them quickly.I like how you're using new canon in a discussion about how TFU fits into old canon.Sidious toyed with people a lot and had his plans backfire because of it multiple times. I'm not seeing how this is out of character for him. Also assassinating rebel leaders and covering it up is a lot better than publicly outing them, letting them speak, and showing that the rebellion had a lot more traction and power than the empire was letting on.I'm not talking about TFU. I'm just talking about how stupid it is that Vader losing his limbs makes him significantly less powerful.Ugh, the prequels just ruin everything.
No, none of those things were in the movie, your view of it is distorted due to having these things explained to you at some point.
Qui-Gons backstory is not in that movie at all, yet the author is making points based off of it.
There were no deep hidden meanings amongst that flat dialogue in the films.
I don't really have an interest in discussing this with people who continue to break the rules of the game in order to win.
I like how you're using new canon in a discussion about how TFU fits into old canon.
Quote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 11:36:33 PMI like how you're using new canon in a discussion about how TFU fits into old canon.No, I'm discussing how TFU is a pile of shit game. I know it fits into old canon. Doesn't make it any less shit.
But it was a pretty good game with an engaging story and solid gameplay Quote from: Tackel on October 22, 2015, 06:20:54 AMQuote from: LC on October 21, 2015, 11:36:33 PMI like how you're using new canon in a discussion about how TFU fits into old canon.No, I'm discussing how TFU is a pile of shit game. I know it fits into old canon. Doesn't make it any less shit.
People hate Forced Unleashed? That game was great. Had fun combat and leveling up your powers was awesome.
Quote from: Big Boss on October 22, 2015, 07:48:56 AMPeople hate Forced Unleashed? That game was great. Had fun combat and leveling up your powers was awesome.Story was 100% pointlessDarth Vader:>hurr durr make a apprentice>durrrrrrrr betray apprentice>jk kill da emperor and gather his enemies its a good plan eh?>jk killed my apprentice to protect the emperor>lol I cloned him hahahahah
Quote from: RocketChan on October 22, 2015, 11:42:11 PMQuote from: Big Boss on October 22, 2015, 07:48:56 AMPeople hate Forced Unleashed? That game was great. Had fun combat and leveling up your powers was awesome.Story was 100% pointlessDarth Vader:>hurr durr make a apprentice>durrrrrrrr betray apprentice>jk kill da emperor and gather his enemies its a good plan eh?>jk killed my apprentice to protect the emperor>lol I cloned him hahahahahI didn't play it for the story. The game itself was fun as hell.
Quote from: Big Boss on October 23, 2015, 03:50:33 AMQuote from: RocketChan on October 22, 2015, 11:42:11 PMQuote from: Big Boss on October 22, 2015, 07:48:56 AMPeople hate Forced Unleashed? That game was great. Had fun combat and leveling up your powers was awesome.Story was 100% pointlessDarth Vader:>hurr durr make a apprentice>durrrrrrrr betray apprentice>jk kill da emperor and gather his enemies its a good plan eh?>jk killed my apprentice to protect the emperor>lol I cloned him hahahahahI didn't play it for the story. The game itself was fun as hell.Pretty limited in combat when you compare it to past games like the the Jedi Knight Series.>Getting a single player only game that has been praised for it's story to not play it for it's storyHow many vaccines did you have as a child?
TFU was funYou guys are just dumb.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 23, 2015, 06:06:36 AMTFU was funYou guys are just dumb.TFU is like God of War. You have some different moves, but the enemy types are all the same and you really only need 1 or 2 attacks to win. The difference being, God of War had a semi decent story.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 23, 2015, 06:06:36 AMTFU was funYou guys are just dumb.That bit when Starkiller jumps down the Death Star with the awesome music playing is probably in my top 10 Star Wars moments.
Quote from: Tackel on October 23, 2015, 06:11:56 AMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 23, 2015, 06:06:36 AMTFU was funYou guys are just dumb.TFU is like God of War. You have some different moves, but the enemy types are all the same and you really only need 1 or 2 attacks to win. The difference being, God of War had a semi decent story.Eh was still fun though. Got to mix up combos and force powers to fuck with Stormtroopers.The sequel was shit tier though. How did they fuck up so badly??
Quote from: Big Boss on October 23, 2015, 06:15:37 AMQuote from: Tackel on October 23, 2015, 06:11:56 AMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 23, 2015, 06:06:36 AMTFU was funYou guys are just dumb.TFU is like God of War. You have some different moves, but the enemy types are all the same and you really only need 1 or 2 attacks to win. The difference being, God of War had a semi decent story.Eh was still fun though. Got to mix up combos and force powers to fuck with Stormtroopers.The sequel was shit tier though. How did they fuck up so badly??Jobs got laid off. According interviews, the game was only about 1/4th of the games planned story. Basically got the Halo 2 treatment.
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