If you knew you were going to die in 1 year...

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What would you do in the meantime to make sure you accomplished something that matters?

Say you have a completely incurable heart condition. You will enjoy exactly one year of full health, but will drop dead at the end of it.

You can't cure the condition, nor can you extend the time you have.

So, now what? Try to honestly think about this.


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At this point I've realized that dying really doesn't grant you any specialties. The only exception to the rule would be the make a wish foundation, for kids with terminal illnesses.

But no such thing exists for adults, as far as I know. Dying doesn't unlock you any bonus doors in our system. If you're poor, out on the streets and will never land that dream trip to the bahamas, dying won't make a difference. You'll still be poor, and out on the streets, never landing that dream trip to the bahamas.

So, I ask, why should the presence and awareness of death be the extra push you need to get up and do things in your life that matter to you? Because you suddenly know that you have this exact amount of time to work with before you'll never get another chance? It's rather ironic, actually. Right from the start, our cells are making copying errors and oxygen is slowly corroding our systems. The sunlight we absorb is blasting us with radiation to help break us down among many other things over time. Throw in random factors and you can go at any time.

And, knowing that, people still don't live up to their full potential. They don't live their goals or their dreams. Always putting them off for later. Maybe when they're retired. Maybe when I save up enough this, maybe when I have that.

If I was told I'd be dropping in one year, I wouldn't change much from what I'm doing now. Death wouldn't allow me to suddenly achieve what I'm after, what I want to do, or where I want to go. So, all that leaves is where I'm at now.





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No, dying doesn't grant any favors to you. But the knowledge that you know exactly when you will die may encourage some more motivation to get things done.


 
 
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There isn't much point in long term planning to help people through their suffering if you are gonna kick the bucket 7 years too early. So I'd go and do one of the crash courses in counselling that they run and see if I can make a bit of a difference before my number is up.

Not that I'm planning to be the little saint, on my penultimate day I'd go and settle a few scores before departure. You can't sentence a dead man, but a dead man might be able to kill a few wife beating pieces of shit before he's put into the ground.

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So, I ask, why should the presence and awareness of death be the extra push you need to get up and do things in your life that matter to you? Because you suddenly know that you have this exact amount of time to work with before you'll never get another chance?

1. You have a homework assignment due tomorrow
2. You have a homework assignment due next month

Which one motivates you to get it done sooner?


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So, I ask, why should the presence and awareness of death be the extra push you need to get up and do things in your life that matter to you? Because you suddenly know that you have this exact amount of time to work with before you'll never get another chance?

1. You have a homework assignment due tomorrow
2. You have a homework assignment due next month

Which one motivates you to get it done sooner?

Both. The one that's due in a week, obviously, since I have a shorter time frame to work with. The one that's due in a month? I get it out of the way in the span of the one that's due in a week so that I don't have to deal with it later. No hassle or stress of having let a month pass by and then finding you're at the deadline.

And if you're asking about motivation? The month long one. Because I know myself, the more I sit round and do nothing, the less I want to do anything. And the more I'd have to drag myself due to procrastination. I haven't done as well as I have on my own by procrastinating. I've gotten along this whole time by getting things done.


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So, I ask, why should the presence and awareness of death be the extra push you need to get up and do things in your life that matter to you? Because you suddenly know that you have this exact amount of time to work with before you'll never get another chance?

1. You have a homework assignment due tomorrow
2. You have a homework assignment due next month

Which one motivates you to get it done sooner?

Both. The one that's due in a week, obviously, since I have a shorter time frame to work with.

So you understand the answer to your question, but you just want to be argumentative.


 
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So, I ask, why should the presence and awareness of death be the extra push you need to get up and do things in your life that matter to you? Because you suddenly know that you have this exact amount of time to work with before you'll never get another chance?

1. You have a homework assignment due tomorrow
2. You have a homework assignment due next month

Which one motivates you to get it done sooner?

Both. The one that's due in a week, obviously, since I have a shorter time frame to work with.

So you understand the answer to your question, but you just want to be argumentative.

Not really, no. I'm asking how other people feel so fine and dandy to let things slip by them. As I told you. I'd take the project that's a month away and finish it in the timespan as if it were a project due in a week since I'm aware that for myself, procrastinating can be an issue if I let it.

Or, in this instance, I'm asking why so many people are keen on putting things off until the last minute. Of course a smaller time frame is going to motivate somebody to get things done sooner. But the point I'm trying to make, is why don't they try to get things done sooner normally without having death or something knock on their door and give them a boot in the ass to move?

That's my question. Why do they need that?


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But the point I'm trying to make, is why don't they try to get things done sooner normally without having death or something knock on their door and give them a boot in the ass to move?

That's my question. Why do they need that?

For the same reason. Right now I eat healthy, exercise not entirely for fun, save 20% of my income in a retirement plan, and plan for the future specifically because I assume I'll have one. If I knew I would drop dead in a year, you can be sure I'd do it fifty pounds heavier without a penny to my name, fully satisfied that I'd lived all I could in that year.

But I don't do that now because I assume I'll live well into retirement and have plenty of time to do what needs doing.
Last Edit: January 18, 2016, 03:02:34 PM by Dean "Turkey" Strang


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But the point I'm trying to make, is why don't they try to get things done sooner normally without having death or something knock on their door and give them a boot in the ass to move?

That's my question. Why do they need that?

For the same reason. Right now I eat healthy, exercise not entirely for fun, save 20% of my income in a retirement plan, and plan for the future specifically because I assume I'll have one. If I knew I would drop dead in a year, you can be sure I'd do it fifty pounds heavier without a penny to my name, fully satisfied that I'd lived all I could in that year.

But I don't do that now because I assume I'll live well into retirement and have plenty of time to do what needs doing.

You're talking as if there's no middle ground to be had between potentially living your last and living a long life. Kinda disappointing a little bit, don't you think?

Expressly for people who spend their whole lives pushing things back only to get a sudden bad roll and drop dead.


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But the point I'm trying to make, is why don't they try to get things done sooner normally without having death or something knock on their door and give them a boot in the ass to move?

That's my question. Why do they need that?

For the same reason. Right now I eat healthy, exercise not entirely for fun, save 20% of my income in a retirement plan, and plan for the future specifically because I assume I'll have one. If I knew I would drop dead in a year, you can be sure I'd do it fifty pounds heavier without a penny to my name, fully satisfied that I'd lived all I could in that year.

But I don't do that now because I assume I'll live well into retirement and have plenty of time to do what needs doing.

You're talking as if there's no middle ground to be had between potentially living your last and living a long life. Kinda disappointing a little bit, don't you think?

I don't understand what you're saying. I don't just wallow in misery while I wait for life to happen, but I hedge my enjoyment of life in preparation for living later.


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But the point I'm trying to make, is why don't they try to get things done sooner normally without having death or something knock on their door and give them a boot in the ass to move?

That's my question. Why do they need that?

For the same reason. Right now I eat healthy, exercise not entirely for fun, save 20% of my income in a retirement plan, and plan for the future specifically because I assume I'll have one. If I knew I would drop dead in a year, you can be sure I'd do it fifty pounds heavier without a penny to my name, fully satisfied that I'd lived all I could in that year.

But I don't do that now because I assume I'll live well into retirement and have plenty of time to do what needs doing.

You're talking as if there's no middle ground to be had between potentially living your last and living a long life. Kinda disappointing a little bit, don't you think?

I don't understand what you're saying. I don't just wallow in misery while I wait for life to happen, but I hedge my enjoyment of life in preparation for living later.

And you don't think that's taking a bit of a gamble that might backfire on you?

I'm not saying that you wallow in misery or just sit around and wait for things to happen. But, generally, people can always do more with themselves but they never go for it. They let a future they have truly no idea over what's going to happen in, hinder them in some ways.

That's not to say that everybody should go apeshit like it was their last day. You can always do things intelligently, after all. It's just strange to me that you'd need such a big kick in the ass like death to go after what you really want to do.


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Sand, that's exactly what people do. They come to believe that tomorrow never happens, and always push the preparation and work off.  Next thing they know they are left with no time and regret. It goes for more than just death. They push off studying until the night before the final, spend all of their money and end up with no retirement or not tell their loved ones how they feel until after the person leaves or dies.

Is it ridiculous? Very much so. But very human as well. We've deluded ourselves in thinking we're immortal. That we'll always have time.

That's kinda where I was going with this thread. Hedonistic replies aside, if there was something you wanted to do, something important, that you would push off until you had a year to live... Why not just do it now? Why not go out and make your mark?


 
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And you don't think that's taking a bit of a gamble that might backfire on you?

I just don't understand what you're getting at. Which part of it is a gamble --  that I don't spend all my money hedonistically satisfying all of my desires? That I set aside money so that later in life I can live comfortably without working, or raise kids without fucking up my life? A huge problem with people these days is a complete lack of planning; many young people don't save money or establish credit or build experience or education when they get the chance. That's not a gamble; it's insurance.
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And you don't think that's taking a bit of a gamble that might backfire on you?

I just don't understand what you're getting at. Which part of it is a gamble --  that I don't spend all my money hedonistically satisfying all of my desires? That I set aside money so that later in life I can live comfortably without working, or raise kids without fucking up my life? A huge problem with people these days is a complete lack of planning; many young people don't save money or establish credit or build experience or education when they get the chance. That's not a gamble; it's insurance.

Fair enough.


 
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Sand, that's exactly what people do. They come to believe that tomorrow never happens, and always push the preparation and work off.  Next thing they know they are left with no time and regret. It goes for more than just death. They push off studying until the night before the final, spend all of their money and end up with no retirement or not tell their loved ones how they feel until after the person leaves or dies.

Is it ridiculous? Very much so. But very human as well. We've deluded ourselves in thinking we're immortal. That we'll always have time.

That's kinda where I was going with this thread. Hedonistic replies aside, if there was something you wanted to do, something important, that you would push off until you had a year to live... Why not just do it now? Why not go out and make your mark?

Because I'm already currently doing everything I can. There isn't anything I would wait on until I had one year left. Rather than wait I'm doing all that I can right now. And if I decide that I want to change things up, I can go and do it.


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