If you could mod movies like you could mod games

 
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Right, but film quality is dependent on the optics used and the film-grain. Many films shot before the digital revolution are very high resolution, typically higher than digital. You just wouldn't have been able to tell by watching a VHS copy because it wouldn't have to been able to fit on a cassette with cheap magnetic tape. It's like if you bought a game that had four discs, but you had the option to play a lower fidelity version on one disc.
i see

so what you're doing is really no different than what's basically already being done with other films, only with pre-SE star wars


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Right, but film quality is dependent on the optics used and the film-grain. Many films shot before the digital revolution are very high resolution, typically higher than digital. You just wouldn't have been able to tell by watching a VHS copy because it wouldn't have to been able to fit on a cassette with cheap magnetic tape. It's like if you bought a game that had four discs, but you had the option to play a lower fidelity version on one disc.
i see

so what you're doing is really no different than what's basically already being done with other films, only with pre-SE star wars
If you're saying what I think you're saying, yes?

I wouldn't splice Thomas the Tank Engine into a movie (besides Fight Club), and I wouldn't just throw him into a game either. I like everything to look uniform; if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't.


 
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If you're saying what I think you're saying, yes?

I wouldn't splice Thomas the Tank Engine into a movie (besides Fight Club), and I wouldn't just throw him into a game either. I like everything to look uniform; if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't.
i'm saying i don't find your outlook completely objectionable, because it's something i see happening in the near future anyway--there's such a huge demand for an unaltered SW re-release, so it seems pretty inevitable

what you'd personally do is what you'd probably get anyway if you just waited a few more years, and i can sort of accept that i guess

as for this statement, though--"if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't"--i think that's an interesting thing to say, because i agree at face value, but people are, of course, going to have different opinions on what "looks like it belongs" means

personally, as you know, i don't think anyone is of the authority to judge whether anything in a piece of art "belongs" except for the artist himself--and that's why i tend to scoff at the idea of "lore-friendly mods" and claim there's no such thing, because who the fuck are you to say whether something is lore-friendly or not--are you the writer? the director? etc. etc.

yet other people would still argue otherwise

also, touch fight club and i'll mod p5 to be delayed to winter 2018
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i personally don't care because it's not like their personal modifications will affect my copy
i will never understand this mentality
People like things to be tailored to them.

Modding exists for the same reason we wear clothes that fit.
that doesn't seem healthy to me
Neither does eating the diet we evolved to eat, so I can see why you wouldn't understand wearing fitting clothes.
No, I just don't understand why everything must be tailored to you people
I put extra effort into making mods so I can fix things, that way they suit me better.

That's kind of one of the biggest parts of being alive.
Instead of being content and settling for what others give us, we go out of our way to make things the way we like them, then we share it with everyone else.

Walt Disney adapted classic fairy tales and made them the way he wanted, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same with games.

In its root, it's the same innovation that has driven the human race's technological achievements since the beginning.
I want it faster.
I want it bigger.
More powerful.
More comfortable.
More vivid.
More lifelike.

We just want things to be, in our perception, perfect.
That's all there is in life.


 
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Walt Disney adapted classic fairy tales and made them the way he wanted, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same with games.
because you're not, in any way whatsoever

you're not walt disney
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We just want things to be, in our perception, perfect.
That's all there is in life.
perfection by your own perception is not perfection


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Walt Disney adapted classic fairy tales and made them the way he wanted, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same with games.
because you're not, in any way whatsoever

you're not walt disney
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We just want things to be, in our perception, perfect.
That's all there is in life.
perfection by your own perception is not perfection
Walt Disney was just a guy, with an idea of how he wanted things to be.

Everybody else is the same, and anybody who wants to exalt or glorify another person needs to get over it.
Glorify yourself, and make things perfect the way you see perfect.

It's subjective.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
They already do that. I've got some VHS copies where the Original Star Wars trilogy got some CGI makeovers (e.g. Adding Hutt to a few scenes).

Then there's the fan recut of the Hobbit trilogy that cut the 12 hour total to just under 4 hours by getting rid of the useless side story, filler, and shit that wasn't in the books.

Having watched both, I'd say it holds it's own as a film, but the original has to be recognised, just as it should for games.

While what makes a mod good is subjective, shit like giving a crab monocles or making a randy savage dragon doesn't fit well or respect Skyrim's theme, for example.


 
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They already do that. I've got some VHS copies where the Original Star Wars trilogy got some CGI makeovers (e.g. Adding Hutt to a few scenes).
Not a mod because George Lucas himself wanted those added in for the special edition. That's more like a patch.


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Yeah. Director's cuts exist. Fan cuts can literally fix fundamentally broken, garbage movies.

It doesn't create one tainted movie, it becomes two separate stories. It should be encouraged, not shamed.

You're anti-art. Verb. Anti-art, pro-IP.


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I wouldn't, because I have no experience with it. I do know of a few examples though, like some spliced-together versions of Alien or the famous (and incredibly good) Harmy's Despecialized Edition of the Star Wars OT.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
also, touch fight club and i'll mod p5 to be delayed to winter 2018
Joke's on you, I got it in the mail half an hour ago. Downloading the Nip audio rn, then I'll play until I need to go to class.


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Yeah. Director's cuts exist.
Not comparable to mods in any way.
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Fan cuts can literally fix fundamentally broken, garbage movies.
If it's fundamentally broken, then it can't be fixed.

If it needs to be fixed, feel free to fix it, but realize that you're just pissing around with other people's hard work, and whatever shitty ideas you have to improve their art appeal only to you.
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You're anti-art. Verb. Anti-art, pro-IP.
If my opinion is anti-art, then okay, fuck art.

It's not, though--I appreciate art more than you ever could. You want art to be for you--I want it to be for everybody.

He feels he's being more pro art than any of us.
I am.
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I think my main question here is: Why do you consider the developer to know best? Why are they on a pedestal?

because it's their art and any modders who violate the NAP will get The Elder Scrolls VI: The Todd's Recreational Nukes™ dropped on their PC


 
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I think my main question here is: Why do you consider the developer to know best? Why are they on a pedestal?
It's not that they "know best"--it's just that, as the artist, they have full control over their own art, no matter how stupid anyone else thinks it is. Because it's their art, and I don't have the right to alter it, even if it's just for personal use.

When I play games, I want to experience their vision, even if it's something I know I won't like--because that's just part of it. I already know what I like, and I don't play video games just to jerk myself off. I want to have a new experience. I want someone to broaden my interests. And if the game sucks and is a piece of shit, then that's what it is. I want that, because now I have a greater appreciation for the games I do enjoy.

None of that can happen if I'm just like, "Yeah, I don't really like this aspect, so I'm gonna change it." And who the fuck am I to do that, anyway?


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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this is called a story mod - and even in video games, those mods are needless and retarded

they're still fine though - you OWN the copy of the movie/game, you can do whatever you fucking want with it


 
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Another way to look at it is this--We're the judges, and they're the contestants. We're the professors, and they're the students.

We evaluate their art the same way a teacher grades a test. If a game like Nier on PC experiences some bad frame rate issues that require external software to fix, then that's a mark against the game.

What you don't do is fix their error for them and say "all better." No--if a game doesn't work right, and it needs mods to be fixed, you don't just let that slide. That's not what a judge does, because not only is that bad for the game; it also sets a bad precedent for the industry. They can release all the broken, unfinished games they want, because they know they have a community of shitheads and sycophants who will fix ALL their mistakes for them.

That's terrible, and that's what you support if you like mods.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Another way to look at it is this--We're the judges, and they're the contestants. We're the professors, and they're the students.

We evaluate their art the same way a teacher grades a test. If a game like Nier on PC experiences some bad frame rate issues that require external software to fix, then that's a mark against the game.

What you don't do is fix their error for them and say "all better." No--if a game doesn't work right, and it needs mods to be fixed, you don't just let that slide. That's not what a judge does, because not only is that bad for the game; it also sets a bad precedent for the industry. They can release all the broken, unfinished games they want, because they know they have a community of shitheads and sycophants who will fix ALL their mistakes for them.

That's terrible, and that's what you support if you like mods.
that's not what consumerism is

I don't judge shit - I just want to be entertained

if I can close my eyes to an aspect of a game or ignore it completely to further my enjoyment of it, I will. That's not being a good judge.


 
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that's not what consumerism is
dogshit?

a "consumer" is the last thing you should ever want to identify as


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Not comparable to mods in any way.
Literally the exact same thing as any other person's alternative cuts.

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If it's fundamentally broken, then it can't be fixed.
Fundamental as in completely core aspects of the film are what make it bad. Guess what. Editing is a fundamental part of a film that can be easily redone.

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If it needs to be fixed, feel free to fix it, but realize that you're just pissing around with other people's hard work, and whatever shitty ideas you have to improve their art appeal only to you.

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It's not, though--I appreciate art more than you ever could. You want art to be for you--I want it to be for everybody.
You want it to be for the author exclusively.

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If my opinion is anti-art, then okay, fuck art.
It's honestly like you were chemically lobotomized in your infancy.


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I think I understand how you perceive reality now. Everything is constructed through poorly matched analogies.

It all makes sense.


 
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Not comparable to mods in any way.
Literally the exact same thing as any other person's alternative cuts.
Except it's the original artist's cuts, making it more akin to a patch than a mod. Making it perfectly acceptable.
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Fundamental as in completely core aspects of the film are what make it bad. Guess what. Editing is a fundamental part of a film that can be easily redone.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity
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me verb me spout nonsequiturs at increasingly rapid rate
Do you know what "non-sequitur" means?

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You want it to be for the author exclusively.
Probably the exact opposite of what I believe and what I've been saying, actually.

That's actually what you want. Your vision, your authorship, trumps their vision and authorship.

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It's honestly like you were chemically lobotomized in your infancy.
HAHA

it's ALMOST like your brain was replaced with POOP!!!!! HAAHAHHAHA XDD GOT EM
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I think I understand how you perceive reality now. Everything is constructed through poorly matched analogies.

It all makes sense.
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that's not what consumerism is
dogshit?

a "consumer" is the last thing you should ever want to identify as
doesn't matter what you identify as, it's what you are

the point of buying media is to be entertained, not for that media to be judged


 
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the point of buying media is to be entertained, not for that media to be judged
Then the point of buying media is dogshit, and I want to destroy the fuck out of it, along with anyone who thinks that's a good thing.

Fuck entertainment.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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entertainment is a better maxim than artistic integrity


 
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entertainment is a better maxim than artistic integrity
No.