If I were to construct a run of the mill RPG

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Okie dokie, I have a question for you people here if you are kind enough to bless me with your answer. If I was to spawn a standard RPG game (think FF, FFII, although slightly more sophisticated) and publish said game, what would you think would  be reasonable price for it? If any price at all?

I am not making many concerns of profit. But I want contribute and PRIMARY concern is feedbak and share many idea. If game is create, I share here free.

I have no understanding of making poll for this thread, please choosing selection that most pertains to you understanding opnion of question.

Which price you say would be most reasonable for 8-bit esque slightly above average RPG. ??

Free.  2$.  More than 2£.

Many thanking upon you, if any more question PLEASE ask, i will have answer.










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What would you like to see in an 8bit RPG? What would make you buy one for 2$$???
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Gah, no clue.
Though 2$ dollars is a very, very fair price for any solid game. People are paying more for literal garbage (but that's their decision).

Go for 2$.


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5 to 10 id say


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Which price you say would be most reasonable for 8-bit esque slightly above average RPG. ??
No more than 5 dollars.


 
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5 to 10 id say
No

I'd say $6.99 at the most, $2.99 at the least.


 
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It really depends on the quality, a "run of the mill" RPG is probably only worth a few [insert currency].
I'd say take a look at Steam and see what the average for RPGs like what you're planning go for.


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
5 to 10 id say
No

I'd say $6.99 at the most, $2.99 at the least.
Depending on the length

Well, thats what i would be willing to pay


 
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Gah, no clue.
Though 2$ dollars is a very, very fair price for any solid game. People are paying more for literal garbage (but that's their decision).

Go for 2$.

Thank you, I think a reasonable price is key to success. If I make price accessible, like 2$, more people will want to play.

It really depends on the quality, a "run of the mill" RPG is probably only worth a few [insert currency].
I'd say take a look at Steam and see what the average for RPGs like what you're planning go for.


I understand what you mean. I don't think I have the skills to make a 'long game' but I aiming for a strong amount of replay value. Hopefully that is where success will be. I hope players will have fun fighting optional bosses, or searching for rare items. I think though 8bit games on steam are overpriced. If my game is made, I will make sure to keep it very cheap so everyone can play if they want.

Are you late night crew?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure who that is.


 
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Just a bunch of streamers; on of which did something like this.


ot: I say go for it, not my thing but lots here would support you


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Make a 8-bit game about Red Pandas and being a Ree Panda. Everything must be about and for the Red Pandas. You will become the Red Panda god in the game.

It will be priced at $9.


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Make a 8-bit game about Red Pandas and being a Ree Panda. Everything must be about and for the Red Pandas. You will become the Red Panda god in the game.

It will be priced at $9.

If game is made with success, I will make Red Panda enemy with super-powerful stats for you. Maybe he could drop good treasure.


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Make a 8-bit game about Red Pandas and being a Ree Panda. Everything must be about and for the Red Pandas. You will become the Red Panda god in the game.

It will be priced at $9.

If game is made with success, I will make Red Panda enemy with super-powerful stats for you. Maybe he could drop good treasure.

Or make the Red Panda a playable character. :o


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Or make the Red Panda a playable character. :o

Hmmmm, maybe secret playable character, enter special code at title screen and you can play him.


 
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EDIT****

What would you like to see in an 8bit RPG? What would make you buy one for 2$$???
A quick to the point trailer, showcasing the setting and elements of the game, which also compliemnts the overall mood of the game.
Rogue Legacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0DKxOEikTs
Snappy, humorous like the game itself and showing almost all of the features that make this game special (the changing dungeon, the adventurer's quirks, the castle and the legacy system). While there's a lot of text thrown at you at the beginning, you don't feel overwhelmed by it since the important text is clearly more emphasised.

Lisa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kT5SDifCU
I can't really say much about it (since it just the second time I've seen this one) - it simply leaves you with an impression you won't forget so easily. And frankly it makes me want to explore this twisted world.

If trailers aren't an option try to make some screenshots that capture what you want your game to convey.


 
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It really depends on the quality, a "run of the mill" RPG is probably only worth a few [insert currency].
I'd say take a look at Steam and see what the average for RPGs like what you're planning go for.


I understand what you mean. I don't think I have the skills to make a 'long game' but I aiming for a strong amount of replay value. Hopefully that is where success will be. I hope players will have fun fighting optional bosses, or searching for rare items. I think though 8bit games on steam are overpriced. If my game is made, I will make sure to keep it very cheap so everyone can play if they want.
Well that's a good goal. I hope it goes well for you and lets you improve.
You should post details when you start making it.


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Depends.  Are you making it in RPGmaker/GameMaker?


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EDIT****

What would you like to see in an 8bit RPG? What would make you buy one for 2$$???
A quick to the point trailer, showcasing the setting and elements of the game, which also compliemnts the overall mood of the game.
Rogue Legacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0DKxOEikTs
Snappy, humorous like the game itself and showing almost all of the features that make this game special (the changing dungeon, the adventurer's quirks, the castle and the legacy system). While there's a lot of text thrown at you at the beginning, you don't feel overwhelmed by it since the important text is clearly more emphasised.

Lisa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kT5SDifCU
I can't really say much about it (since it just the second time I've seen this one) - it simply leaves you with an impression you won't forget so easily. And frankly it makes me want to explore this twisted world.

If trailers aren't an option try to make some screenshots that capture what you want your game to convey.

Thank you, those were of great help. I should be able to make trailer for game, since I have the software, but my editing skills are not the best they could be. Anyway, if I make trailer I will post here and you can see if you like it or not.

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Well that's a good goal. I hope it goes well for you and lets you improve.
You should post details when you start making it.

Thank you, if game is published, I will give free copies to all on this site (If I can figure out how to) 

Depends.  Are you making it in RPGmaker/GameMaker?

I first tried to code the game myself in Unity but I soon realise I have not enough knowledge. I could only make basic jumping and movement scripts. However, I made very nice art and original music, so i think that is strong point.

To answer you question friend, I would more than likely use what you mentioned, but I would do my very best to incorporate as much as my original ideas, music and art as I could to replace my lack of coding skills.


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As for what I want to see in the game itself...

Loveable Characters
Nice Artwork
Interesting Combat

Gah, it's too late for me to actually find the proper expressions so you can understand what I want to say. Tomorrow I'll elaborate on that.


 
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So yeah, continuing on from yesterday...


I'm pretty sure you already have a vision for your game, right? Plot, characters, maybe music, environment and gameplay ideas.
You should focus on one of those especially, but don’t abandon the other elements.
Assuming you use RPG Maker, use the programming boundaries to your advantage. A few pixels in the right places can tell a wonderful (or horribly sad) story to those who are looking for it without the use of words. In which, in my opinion, lies the art of some of those games.

A great example of what I am talking about is Ib: http://www.vgperson.com/games/ib.htm
It’s quite obvious what the focus of this game is after either playing it or watching a playthrough;
Its story. It is about a little girl, Ib, that finds herself in a painting after she went to the museum with her parents. In there she has to try to survive the treacherous dangers of the painted world, while most of the artworks want her untimely demise. Luckily enough she finds a red rose that corresponds to her current well-being and whenever the rose regains its blooming state after being put in a vase with water Ib herself feels better too. Eventually she meets other people who are trapped in the painted world… (presumably).
While there are many different locations you’ll visit in the painted world, it still follows a consistent aesthetic. Nothing seems out of place or weird in some way. (An example for a game that has a weird/contradicting aesthetic would be ‘Mario is missing’ on the NES.
Anyways depending on how you interact with the environment and other characters you get a better understanding of the situation you are in and maybe even learn some hidden truths (I mean now you can read about that stuff on the Internet but that’s besides the point).
The game is relatively slow and so I is the music. It also convey a sense of mystery of this weird world you are trapped in.
You can try it out yourself – it’s free and a single playthrough doesn’t take long.

About my points:
‘Loveable Characters’
It’s not as much as that they should be loveable, but convincing/believable.
Make a profile for the major characters of your game. What is their background, what are their hobbies, their fear, their quirks? Does it match with their design? They should always have a reason for their actions. If you plan a character out that way it’s it a lot easier for you to let him/her respond to the events of the story. For side/unimportant characters you can just look at TVTropes and use some of the tropes – I mean, of course I’d appreciate it if you take your time to plan out your side characters too.
For example a tired, old veteran, will have a rather cynical view on the world, maybe they have a fear of losing close friends, like he once did in a war, thus he shuts himself off of society. Maybe he went AWOL and now lives on the street. Maybe he has a drinking problem. And he does look the part; rugged, ruffled hair, old scars and other injuries from war.
You can take the same background but make him a man who often jokes and laughs, maybe too often; as a way for him to cope with what he experienced.
Or he’s actually finished dealing with this part of his life and can act as a sort of mentor figure.
There are many possibilities.

The player character is a different kind of calibre though. If you plan to let player explore freely then it’d be better to use a rather blank slate, and let people name the character.
Maybe plan out multiple general personalities for the PC.
If the player acts brutal in most instance make the NPC be scared and/or abhor the PC (doesn’t necessarily apply to all NPC. Some might approve of it). Maybe even take the control of the player character in scripted instances that reflect the previous actions of the player (I just really appreciate that kind of thing in games since it makes choices matter).


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So yeah, continuing on from yesterday...


I'm pretty sure you already have a vision for your game, right? Plot, characters, maybe music, environment and gameplay ideas.
You should focus on one of those especially, but don’t abandon the other elements.
Assuming you use RPG Maker, use the programming boundaries to your advantage. A few pixels in the right places can tell a wonderful (or horribly sad) story to those who are looking for it without the use of words. In which, in my opinion, lies the art of some of those games.

A great example of what I am talking about is Ib: http://www.vgperson.com/games/ib.htm
It’s quite obvious what the focus of this game is after either playing it or watching a playthrough;
Its story. It is about a little girl, Ib, that finds herself in a painting after she went to the museum with her parents. In there she has to try to survive the treacherous dangers of the painted world, while most of the artworks want her untimely demise. Luckily enough she finds a red rose that corresponds to her current well-being and whenever the rose regains its blooming state after being put in a vase with water Ib herself feels better too. Eventually she meets other people who are trapped in the painted world… (presumably).
While there are many different locations you’ll visit in the painted world, it still follows a consistent aesthetic. Nothing seems out of place or weird in some way. (An example for a game that has a weird/contradicting aesthetic would be ‘Mario is missing’ on the NES.
Anyways depending on how you interact with the environment and other characters you get a better understanding of the situation you are in and maybe even learn some hidden truths (I mean now you can read about that stuff on the Internet but that’s besides the point).
The game is relatively slow and so I is the music. It also convey a sense of mystery of this weird world you are trapped in.
You can try it out yourself – it’s free and a single playthrough doesn’t take long.

About my points:
‘Loveable Characters’
It’s not as much as that they should be loveable, but convincing/believable.
Make a profile for the major characters of your game. What is their background, what are their hobbies, their fear, their quirks? Does it match with their design? They should always have a reason for their actions. If you plan a character out that way it’s it a lot easier for you to let him/her respond to the events of the story. For side/unimportant characters you can just look at TVTropes and use some of the tropes – I mean, of course I’d appreciate it if you take your time to plan out your side characters too.
For example a tired, old veteran, will have a rather cynical view on the world, maybe they have a fear of losing close friends, like he once did in a war, thus he shuts himself off of society. Maybe he went AWOL and now lives on the street. Maybe he has a drinking problem. And he does look the part; rugged, ruffled hair, old scars and other injuries from war.
You can take the same background but make him a man who often jokes and laughs, maybe too often; as a way for him to cope with what he experienced.
Or he’s actually finished dealing with this part of his life and can act as a sort of mentor figure.
There are many possibilities.

The player character is a different kind of calibre though. If you plan to let player explore freely then it’d be better to use a rather blank slate, and let people name the character.
Maybe plan out multiple general personalities for the PC.
If the player acts brutal in most instance make the NPC be scared and/or abhor the PC (doesn’t necessarily apply to all NPC. Some might approve of it). Maybe even take the control of the player character in scripted instances that reflect the previous actions of the player (I just really appreciate that kind of thing in games since it makes choices matter).

Firstly, may I thank you for your well-constructed and considerate answer.

I see the truth in what you say and your advice is most wise. Due to my lack of core-programming skills however, I will be using the RPGmaker you mentioned. To make up for this I will try to focus my creative energy on the art, music and most importantly (in my opinion) the characters and story. As you have said, I do indeed have a very comprehensive view of the world and story. So much so that the RPG I intend to make has stemmed from the characters created in a novel I am writing. I believe if the game has a compelling story, with an immersive world, the player should feel as if they got their money's worth. And that is my ultimate goal, to have players enjoy a story I have created. And that the players will be happy with what they bought.

 If this project is completed, I will be sure to gift you a copy in way of thanks.