I always found it funny how people are selective when it comes to suicide.

What about the people who walked into the chernobyl reactor to maintain critical parts to stop the damage from being worse? What about people in war who hit the front lines and know it's a one way deal? The rare person who willingly takes a bullet for another?

People seem to just magically forget these when they bring up their hate for suicide. If I had to guess why, it's probably because these are acts of suicide with an inherent outward benefit rather than singular.

As long as your suicide benefits somebody else all is forgiven apparently.

Quote from: Sαndtrap on February 02, 2017, 01:49:40 AM

I always found it funny how people are selective when it comes to suicide.

What about the people who walked into the chernobyl reactor to maintain critical parts to stop the damage from being worse? What about people in war who hit the front lines and know it's a one way deal? The rare person who willingly takes a bullet for another?

People seem to just magically forget these when they bring up their hate for suicide. If I had to guess why, it's probably because these are acts of suicide with an inherent outward benefit rather than singular.

As long as your suicide benefits somebody else all is forgiven apparently.

I don't get why some people hate suicide. It's horrible that some people feel the need to go through with it, but suiciders shouldn't be posthumously shamed.

If I had to guess, it's rooted somewhere in our culture. Specifically western culture. Look at old japanese culture or others and you'll find that suicide is viewed differently.

It seems like there's old remnants of early western views left behind, back from when people had to be a lot harder. There was a big emphasis on what was considered being a coward and what wasn't back then. I can only speak based around my location, but a lot of people out here are harsh when it comes to suicide. If my province has it then I can only assume that down in the states it's that much more emphasised.

I always found it funny how people are selective when it comes to suicide.

What about the people who walked into the chernobyl reactor to maintain critical parts to stop the damage from being worse? What about people in war who hit the front lines and know it's a one way deal? The rare person who willingly takes a bullet for another?

People seem to just magically forget these when they bring up their hate for suicide. If I had to guess why, it's probably because these are acts of suicide with an inherent outward benefit rather than singular.

As long as your suicide benefits somebody else all is forgiven apparently.

I mean, we could get in to the details of sacrifice vs suicide in contextual, cultural, and biblical linguistics, but that sounds boring enough to actually lead to suicide.

Quote from: Nasty Turkey. SAD! on February 02, 2017, 11:55:58 AM

None of the Abraham religions consider suicide an unforgivable sin; as far as Christianity is concerned, the only thing that falls into that category is blasphemy against god, i.e., not being Christian.

But no, I don't see why it would be considered suicide. Is a terminal cancer patient refusing treatment suicidal?

I don't know, growing up Catholic I was always taught that blasphemy and suicide were unforgivable sins.

Not according to the catechism.

I always found it funny how people are selective when it comes to suicide.

What about the people who walked into the chernobyl reactor to maintain critical parts to stop the damage from being worse? What about people in war who hit the front lines and know it's a one way deal? The rare person who willingly takes a bullet for another?

People seem to just magically forget these when they bring up their hate for suicide. If I had to guess why, it's probably because these are acts of suicide with an inherent outward benefit rather than singular.

As long as your suicide benefits somebody else all is forgiven apparently.

Those aren't examples of suicide
They want to live
They just know that the chances of survival are slim to none

People hate suicide because they don't like seeing someone driven to such dispair that they kill themselves

You're talking like people actually condemn people who commit suicide

Quote from: Cloudy Nights on February 02, 2017, 01:12:12 PM

Quote from: Sαndtrap on February 02, 2017, 01:49:40 AM

I always found it funny how people are selective when it comes to suicide.

What about the people who walked into the chernobyl reactor to maintain critical parts to stop the damage from being worse? What about people in war who hit the front lines and know it's a one way deal? The rare person who willingly takes a bullet for another?

People seem to just magically forget these when they bring up their hate for suicide. If I had to guess why, it's probably because these are acts of suicide with an inherent outward benefit rather than singular.

As long as your suicide benefits somebody else all is forgiven apparently.

Those aren't examples of suicide
They want to live
They just know that the chances of survival are slim to none

People hate suicide because they don't like seeing someone driven to such dispair that they kill themselves

You're talking like people actually condemn people who commit suicide

you're talking like they don't

People hate suicide, not suicide victims