I will never be able to see cannabis usage as a "clean" thing.

 
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Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.


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Y'all boys getting salty as fuck
You want salty, I'll give you salty.

I think you have some more imaginary cancer kids waiting to drive around in your imaginary Ferrari.
Lmao his cars are real yo. I've been sent tons of proof over the years.
He's bullshitting you, and you're dumb enough to believe it. You're the perfect candidate. This has nothing to do with the topic by the way, it's just fucking stupid watching BC be a pretentious twat when he's nothing but a fraud. It's less about his opinion on weed and more about his overall "character" on this forum.

No, but I've sent videos, shown my girlfriend with them. Everything really.

Its like saying my dog is fake too, its stupid.
So maybe your girlfriend is rich, who gives a fuck. So you're not going to explain the imaginary cancer kids, eh?

It wasn't fake, and it wasn't something to continue to talk about. If you haven't noticed I stopped talking about everything entirely because everyone got so salty about everything. So I just keep in private. And my girlfriend's family is pretty wealthy, but not that wealthy.

You all clearly give a fuck if you all constantly bring it up when the subject has nothing to do with it.
I give a fuck about how you strung me along for months with multiple fake and bogus stories all to keep up the "nice rich guy" act. And it's not that it's personal, because obviously I managed to survive. It's the fact that you're more than happy to be morally deprived in secrecy just to keep an image. The only reason you stopped bragging all the time is because there are tons of holes in your stories. You put a hell of a lot of effort into keeping up this fabrication, but it's not good enough.

No...because I realized there was no point, and it wasn't good for the rest of the site. I talked with a few members in private about if I was coming across poorly, and what I could do to fix it. A lot of the times I legitimately wasn't trying to be snobby or whatever, but you guys always flipped it to be that way. So I stopped talking about it. Why talk about shit people don't like to hear.

I share shit with people on snap, I don't send everything to members, because I still feel strange about it. I bought my girlfriend a nice purse, and sent a snap to some people on here, and I felt bad, and apologized. You, and others liked to make me the bad guy, and you had your reasons sure. But I never did anything with the intention of pissing people off or making people feel like shit. Even where your all pricks to me I've only ever actually gotten pissed once, and it was at Verbatim.

Even in threads that had nothing to do with wealth or anything, like this thread, you guys bring it up, That's not my fault. I would still gladly be sharing shit with you guys if there wasn't such an overwhelmingly negative response. I posted on TFL when I got my first car, and I carried it over here because it was a community of older members. I thought it was cool to share stories of success, clearly it wasn't the case.

You can hate me, I honestly don't care anymore. I'm just doing everyone a favor by not talking about it publicly with people who aren't interested
That doesn't address any of what I was actually talking about you deceiving sack of shit.

It address everything you said. You said I don't share shit because it's "bogus". I told you why I don't share it.

I say its not a lie, you say it is, there's nothing more to it then that
Since you're playing stupid, as usual, I'll go highlight it again.
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I give a fuck about how you strung me along for months with multiple fake and bogus stories all to keep up the "nice rich guy" act. And it's not that it's personal, because obviously I managed to survive. It's the fact that you're more than happy to be morally deprived in secrecy just to keep an image.

You PMed me for months, without me asking you to, after telling people how you were supposedly going to help me when I was homeless. I didn't ask you to, but you insisted. Then as months went by, you came back over and over with bogus stories to make up why you hadn't done anything yet. Despite me telling you that you didn't have to if it was too much, you kept up the act so that you could continue to project your fake charitable facade. And then when Quin put up the crowdfunder you made of that bogus story pretending that GoFundMe supposedly stole two thousand dollars from you, and you proceeded to do nothing about it. It was directly after that you stopped making car posts and you stopped PMing me.

This is ignoring the fact that Challenger and Solonoid have pointed out quite a few holes in your storytelling. You're nothing but a disgusting and lying fraud.

1. Never got my money back.
2. You reacting that way made me not give a shit about it anymore.
3. I didn't stop posting car threads after that, I stopped after...honestly I don't remember the exact time but I believe it was after an anarchy.
4. The "holes" are there because I dont want to tell everything because it's pointless and I just don't care. I've told plenty of people the whole story, I even told Psy.

The people that were skeptical but nice about it, or I actually got a long with I added. And have shown for years now that I'm not full of shit. There's no gain in it. Solonoid found a general area of my parents house (I never saw the info because it got removed but it sounded that way).

I stopped posting shit because a few of you aren't in great circumstances, are depressed, or down right hate seeing anyone doing well. It's a trend. Could I keep positing shit and making people upset, sure, but what's the point? There is none. So I stopped. It's the obsession that bothered me.

I tried to help you, genuinely did, I explained what happened, and tried to get my shit back. You bitched and made it public so I stopped giving a fuck, and I don't regret it. Do I understand your side of things? Sure. Am I happy your relatively fine now? Sure. Do I have any interest of trying to help should it arise? None at all. I'll admit that.

I can be a dick, but it's not who I am, I don't find enjoyment in it. And apparently being nice, in general, is seen like a fake thing to do. Which is a personal problem of people on the site.

I did the dance on B.Net. Someone asked for hard proof, and I provided. And he/she started stalking me. I posted a snap of my girlfriend, and I get a picture from a member of this site telling me they jacked off to it.

I show one thing, people want more. Always, it's how it works. You guys say "post a video and we'll shut up". I post a video and people say it's fake. I post a photo and it's fake. So I took it private. You can see my girlfriend all you want, my pupper, my cars, and just general life shit. This site wasn't the place for that anymore. So I stopped. There's nothing complicated about it, there's no deeper fact, that's it. It was toxic to share positive shit, so I stopped.

People bitch and moan about everything here. The easiest solution was to give less things to bitch and moan about.


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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.

And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?


 
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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.


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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.

Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.

Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds
I'd argue that the licensed physician/endocrinologist knows how my body works better than me. It's why self-medding for just about anything more complicated than allergies is looked down upon.


 
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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.
Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds
Holy fuck. Do you not understand that self-medication is not recreation?

Recreation means you do it for fun. It doesn't mean you're doing it to help your stupid depressed ass or whatever the fuck.
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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.
Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds
Holy fuck. Do you not understand that self-medication is not recreation?
Okay so just to get this clear because your stance is a little confusing. Are you for or against the use of medical cannabis?
christ

I feel like I said it rather plainly, but no, I'm not against the medical use of any drug.

What I'm against is recreation. If you're doing drugs for the fun of it, then you're a stupid motherfucker.


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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.
Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds
Holy fuck. Do you not understand that self-medication is not recreation?

Recreation means you do it for fun. It doesn't mean you're doing it to help your stupid depressed ass or whatever the fuck.

Sometimes I do it recreationally with a friend that does it for medical reasons because doing it alone makes him sad is that selfish and or stupid
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Sometimes I do it recreationally with a friend that does it for medical reasons because doing it alone makes him sad is that selfish
Why would it make him sad?


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Sometimes I do it recreationally with a friend that does it for medical reasons because doing it alone makes him sad is that selfish
Why would it make him sad?

He doesnt like to be alone


 
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I usually tune out of most threads that argue on the subject so I just wanted to clarify. I think you had a more shaky opinion in the past?
I don't know, I don't think my opinions have changed all that much to be honest.

If anything, I hate drugs more than ever, but I've always been okay with medical use.
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Everything in moderation.
Shut the fuck up.
Verb, do you know what the appropriate amount of a opiate is? Enough to limit pain to ensure survival. Heroin saves lives when used properly. Properly is the operative word. Is it bad that I enjoy the relief or even, dare I say, high of dilodid after surgery? There's a time and place for everything.
"Moderation" is not an umbrella that medical use falls under. You use "moderation" exclusively for recreational use, which is what I'm against.
And that's your prerogative. When so many outside interests have a profit motive in how we treat ourselves, why would what I say be offensive? Maybe some use it correctly and others abuse it?
All recreational use is abuse.
Is it?  Self medicating can be seen as a failure of a doctor or medical profession. Only we know our bodies and minds
Holy fuck. Do you not understand that self-medication is not recreation?
Okay so just to get this clear because your stance is a little confusing. Are you for or against the use of medical cannabis?

Medical? For.

We know our bodies and our minds.

Is there abuse? Yes.

But the relief the majority feels? It goes beyond morals and absolutes.


 
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He doesnt like to be alone
And pressuring you into doing drugs makes him feel less alone?

That's pretty shitty of him.


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He doesnt like to be alone
And pressuring you into doing drugs makes him feel less alone?

That's pretty shitty of him.

Hes not pressuring me Im happy to do it with him


 
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Hes not pressuring me Im happy to do it with him
But you're happy to do it anyway.

If you only smoked with him for that specific purpose, then you know what?

I'd be like, "Cool man, that's pretty sweet of you to do that."

But you're an admitted degenerate anyway.
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1. Never got my money back.
2. You reacting that way made me not give a shit about it anymore.
You really honestly expect me to believe this shit? I didn't start reacting negatively until months after the fact. I obviously started to have very heavy doubts, but I didn't start being negative until you tried to cover shit up with bullshit excuses.
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3. I didn't stop posting car threads after that, I stopped after...honestly I don't remember the exact time but I believe it was after an anarchy.
4. The "holes" are there because I dont want to tell everything because it's pointless and I just don't care. I've told plenty of people the whole story, I even told Psy.
Ha, yeah, sure.

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The people that were skeptical but nice about it, or I actually got a long with I added. And have shown for years now that I'm not full of shit. There's no gain in it. Solonoid found a general area of my parents house (I never saw the info because it got removed but it sounded that way).

I stopped posting shit because a few of you aren't in great circumstances, are depressed, or down right hate seeing anyone doing well. It's a trend. Could I keep positing shit and making people upset, sure, but what's the point? There is none. So I stopped. It's the obsession that bothered me.

I tried to help you, genuinely did, I explained what happened, and tried to get my shit back. You bitched and made it public so I stopped giving a fuck, and I don't regret it. Do I understand your side of things? Sure. Am I happy your relatively fine now? Sure. Do I have any interest of trying to help should it arise? None at all. I'll admit that.

I can be a dick, but it's not who I am, I don't find enjoyment in it. And apparently being nice, in general, is seen like a fake thing to do. Which is a personal problem of people on the site.

I did the dance on B.Net. Someone asked for hard proof, and I provided. And he/she started stalking me. I posted a snap of my girlfriend, and I get a picture from a member of this site telling me they jacked off to it.

I show one thing, people want more. Always, it's how it works. You guys say "post a video and we'll shut up". I post a video and people say it's fake. I post a photo and it's fake. So I took it private. You can see my girlfriend all you want, my pupper, my cars, and just general life shit. This site wasn't the place for that anymore. So I stopped. There's nothing complicated about it, there's no deeper fact, that's it. It was toxic to share positive shit, so I stopped.

People bitch and moan about everything here. The easiest solution was to give less things to bitch and moan about.
Wow man you really have me convinced.
YOU made it public, you fucking snot nosed half wit. YOU were the one that made big posts bragging about how great and wonderful you are, and YOU were the one who kept coming back, only to have a new excuse shortly thereafter each fucking time.

You're hard headed and to a certain extent I respect it. But you also lack simple intelligence.

I said I made it public. I never said I didn't. I shared it because it was cool. I have never, in any thread, made myself look superior to anyone. I've had many responses in which I express that belief.

None of my posts were brag post. It was a post sharing something I thought was cool. Like showing a new toy at show and tell. Can it come across as bragging? Sure but I never said anything to come across that way. I never looked down on anyone.

Sure, you didn't react negatively immediately, but you were volatile shortly after. And that's what made me not care. That's the just how it is. I have no patience for it. I apologized, constantly because I could understand why you were pissed. But you turned it into hate and being completely convinced that I'm fake. I've always been reasonable with everyone, including you. No one reciprocates it back to me.

I come back when I'm bored at home, or at a restaurant, or anywhere. Crucify me, I like to see what's going on. You want me to post about how I helped my girlfriend get a Lamborghini? I posted all about it on my snap, plenty of pictures, even the set up for the surprise. Followed by a nice dinner photo. You want me to just go all out and brag I can easily do that. But guess what I don't.

Your posts are less about logic then they are fueled by negative bias. It's a waste of time to respond to you because it goes literally no where, yet I do. The solution to your doubt is to go public about everything, which then causes the problem of me being a "rich snob asshole who just brags" or whatever horse shit you guys like to say about me. There is no solution that appeases everyone. Like I said, the easiest one was to only share with people who I liked. Not even liked, that were interested in it.

We can talk for hours, years, and your opinion will never change. There is nothing I can do to make you change your mind. It is quite literally a waste of time to even humor the argument. But I'm not one to not respond. So go ahead and write your next response saying how I'm wrong about this and that and how I'm lying about x y and z. It's stupid. It sucks you didn't get two grand and it sucks I lost two grand. Life sucks, you know that. Get over it.


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Hes not pressuring me Im happy to do it with him
But you're happy to do it anyway.

But is it selfish and stupid of me to do it with him because he needs to do it but doesnt want to do it alone?

Id be selfish to not do it with him


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Christ 4 pages already


 
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The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.
I fucking love how it's still considered polite to offer people cancer-on-a-stick.

I fucking love that.


 
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Hes not pressuring me Im happy to do it with him
But you're happy to do it anyway.
But is it selfish and stupid of me to do it with him because he needs to do it but doesnt want to do it alone?

Id be selfish to not do it with him
See my edit.


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The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.
I fucking love how it's still considered polite to offer people cancer-on-a-stick.

I fucking love that.

I mean, offering something as an act is polite in itself.


 
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The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.
I fucking love how it's still considered polite to offer people cancer-on-a-stick.

I fucking love that.
I mean, offering something as an act is polite in itself.
I disagree. What's being offered matters. I would never offer somebody anything that I know for a fact is harmful. That's called being an irresponsible prick.


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The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.

Those are shitty friends. The kind that turn a pleasant mushroom trip into a nightmare. The point isn't getting high, it's what you learn. The oldschool stoners know that.


 
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Fuck your stupid ass if you've ever "learned" anything from getting high beyond "I'm never doing that again."


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Oh, hey.
The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.
I fucking love how it's still considered polite to offer people cancer-on-a-stick.

I fucking love that.
I mean, offering something as an act is polite in itself.
I disagree. What's being offered matters. I would never offer somebody anything that I know for a fact is harmful. That's called being an irresponsible prick.

Sure the subject of what your offering matters. But let's say it's two people who smoke, the subject doesn't really matter to them because they like it, so offering is polite.

Even then, if someone offered me cocaine or some shit, I would say no but the gesture itself is still polite.


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The one thing I hate about people who drink is how they always try to pressure you to join them, and then they try to make you feel bad after you turn them down more than once. I've found that people who smoke usually don't ask again once you've said no the first time. They might ask "are you sure?" but it generally doesn't go beyond that.
I fucking love how it's still considered polite to offer people cancer-on-a-stick.

I fucking love that.

It is polite.  Turn it down. That's your choice. But offering itis no different than offering a glass of water or whatever you currently are enjoying


 
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It is polite.  Turn it down. That's your choice. But offering itis no different than offering a glass of water or whatever you currently are enjoying
A glass of water isn't going to tar up my lungs, you empty-headed fuck.


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Hes not pressuring me Im happy to do it with him
But you're happy to do it anyway.

If you only smoked with him for that specific purpose, then you know what?

I'd be like, "Cool man, that's pretty sweet of you to do that."

But you're an admitted degenerate anyway.

So if I enjoy it while smoking with him its bad?

Its only a good thing if i smoke to make him feel better and if I enjoy its a bad thing


 
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Sure the subject of what your offering matters. But let's say it's two people who smoke, the subject doesn't really matter to them because they like it, so offering is polite.

Even then, if someone offered me cocaine or some shit, I would say no but the gesture itself is still polite.
Can we all agree to start reading between the lines? I'm obviously talking about offering cigarettes to strangers.

If someone offers me cocaine, I'm calling the police.