the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
And does not the fact that you and I disagree on which we would prefer to happen to us show you that you cannot objectively state whether dying of predation or dying of starvation is worse?
The only reason animals reproduce so much now is because carnivores exist. You realize that, right? So while it would take a long time for herbivores to adjust their behavior, that's the only reason why they fuck so much. And it's plain silly to suggest that we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
No, Emperorbatim's word is doctrine. You are morally wrong to hold a differing opinion, and why would you anyway, since he already knows exactly how everything should be?
Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 04:56:46 PMThe only reason animals reproduce so much now is because carnivores exist. You realize that, right? So while it would take a long time for herbivores to adjust their behavior, that's the only reason why they fuck so much. And it's plain silly to suggest that we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.We're talking about evolutionary levels of adaptation here you realize right? Things that take countless generations and more time than humans have even observed ever?
Everyone's like, oh people who don't eat meat are so powerful and willfulAnd I'm sitting here like... you all must be some weak minded motherfuckers.
I concede that if we could muster the will from everyone we could actively fight suffering that animals experience in the wild.
Quote from: DAS WAIFUMEISTER x2 on August 17, 2015, 05:06:23 PMEveryone's like, oh people who don't eat meat are so powerful and willfulAnd I'm sitting here like... you all must be some weak minded motherfuckers.don't project your insecurities onto me
Quote from: eggsalad on August 17, 2015, 05:03:10 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 04:56:46 PMThe only reason animals reproduce so much now is because carnivores exist. You realize that, right? So while it would take a long time for herbivores to adjust their behavior, that's the only reason why they fuck so much. And it's plain silly to suggest that we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.We're talking about evolutionary levels of adaptation here you realize right? Things that take countless generations and more time than humans have even observed ever?Humans haven't really observed that much time.And like I said--if overpopulation did occur, we could do something about it. Without killing them.If starvation occurred, we could do something about it. Easily.
Most of us wouldn't be alive in this scenario
We should all listen to what YOU have to say.
Quote from: eggsalad on August 17, 2015, 04:50:48 PMAnd does not the fact that you and I disagree on which we would prefer to happen to us show you that you cannot objectively state whether dying of predation or dying of starvation is worse?No, it just shows that you can easily disagree simply to suit your own agenda.
Just don't expect anyone else to do the same just because your crimson-stained panties get tied in a knot when you see others not following your self-imposed code. You're nowhere near important enough to warrant a lifestyle change just because you disapprove.
I'm going to eat bacon with scrambled eggs in about an hour, by the way. It'll be delicious.
Should we not as more intelligent beings end an animal's life when it's clear the only thing to continue from it is more suffering?
Quote from: eggsalad on August 17, 2015, 05:13:57 PMShould we not as more intelligent beings end an animal's life when it's clear the only thing to continue from it is more suffering?No, we should. Just, I can't honestly see it ever coming to that point. If an animal is starving, and lacks the energy to even sate itself, then yeah, I say put it out of its misery. But that's an extreme circumstance that I don't think would occur very often, given the scenario.
Well I mean...all animals reach that point with age. That or they die from other events.
and you're nowhere near smart enough, apparently, that i'm not "disapproving" just because
because you're too weak to give up meat
good, i hope you get tuberculosis
Quote from: eggsalad on August 17, 2015, 05:20:48 PMWell I mean...all animals reach that point with age. That or they die from other events.Well, if it's gonna die from age, then it's putting itself out of its OWN misery, then, isn't it?... I don't see your point here.
Quote from: Jocephalopod on August 17, 2015, 05:10:38 PMMost of us wouldn't be alive in this scenariohumans are not carnivores
You're right, you disapprove because you feel the need to act like a whiny little shit.
It isn't a matter of strength, it's a matter of deliciousness.
If there was some alternative to meat that tasted better, sure, I'd be all for it.But there isn't.
omnivores are carnivores
omnivores are carnivoresomnivores are herbivoresI never said omnivores can't eat plants.
See this is why debates with you always turn into fights when you don't have the upper hand.It's rather Kinder-ish.
Quote from: Liquid Plotmaster on August 17, 2015, 05:23:38 PMYou're right, you disapprove because you feel the need to act like a whiny little shit."those who were against the holocaust were just whiny little shits"
"i'm a liar--i haven't actually looked that hard, because i'm too stupid, lazy, and most likely fat to check"
I've had reasonable rebuttals to most of what you posed and you usually come back with "well fuck [blank]"
Buddy, I'm not the one cherry picking parts of posts and ignoring the rest. I've had reasonable rebuttals to most of what you posed and you usually come back with "well fuck the ecosystem"So.
Quote from: ॐ Nuka on August 17, 2015, 05:38:24 PMI've had reasonable rebuttals to most of what you posed and you usually come back with "well fuck [blank]"Jacobatim in a nutshell.
i personally commend vegans and vegetarians
