Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:21:31 PMActually he does have a job. He donates his YouTube money to charity.Fair enough, my mistake. I could've sworn he was one of those idiots like AngryJoe, who quit his job to do YouTube full time.Still, the point stands that YouTube is under no obligation to be "fair" to him or anybody else--and they've made it clear over the past eight years that they simply do not care about our piddly complaints about the shitty system. And they don't have to.
Actually he does have a job. He donates his YouTube money to charity.
Sadly Verbatim is right. As shitty as it is YouTube is a private business that is entitled to run its site however it wishes.
Oh my god. Just realized. This also affects dubtrack when it comes to most music I believe.
Quote from: CIS on January 28, 2016, 08:31:54 PMSadly Verbatim is right. As shitty as it is YouTube is a private business that is entitled to run its site however it wishes.I see that now.Maybe I should just delete my channel. I dunno how to feel anymore about YouTube.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:32:42 PMQuote from: CIS on January 28, 2016, 08:31:54 PMSadly Verbatim is right. As shitty as it is YouTube is a private business that is entitled to run its site however it wishes.I see that now.Maybe I should just delete my channel. I dunno how to feel anymore about YouTube.I wouldn't delete it. While Google can be fucking awful YouTube is still a useful service. Just create original content that's yours and yours alone and you should be fine.
"Any existing fair use laws would only state that people can use portions of video/audio for the sake of review or commentary. There is literally nothing to say that YouTube, as a privately-run business, MUST allow these forms of content on their site. Fair Use does not = first amendment rights, and even if it did, youtube is only as much of a public forum as its owners decide it to be."Reality.
I've not seen this happen to any youtubers.
Quote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:22:52 PM"Any existing fair use laws would only state that people can use portions of video/audio for the sake of review or commentary. There is literally nothing to say that YouTube, as a privately-run business, MUST allow these forms of content on their site. Fair Use does not = first amendment rights, and even if it did, youtube is only as much of a public forum as its owners decide it to be."Reality.Exept you're ignoring the fact that Youtube has a clear set of rules and regulations that are agreed to and the people like I Hate Everything and ThatGuyWithTheGlasses are clearly obeying, as well as falling within the laws of fair use. Meanwhile people like Jynx continue to break the community guidelines and copyright laws in their plank and reaction videos and face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever. Plus there are legitimate business agreements that go into sponsored channels. Your assertions that it's dumb to quit a "legit" job for a youtube channel like Angry Joe's that was already sucessfull are unfounded.
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.
Exept you're ignoring the fact that Youtube has a clear set of rules and regulations that are agreed to
4. General Use of the ServiceβPermissions and RestrictionsYouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:[...]J. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.
and the people like I Hate Everything and ThatGuyWithTheGlasses are clearly obeying, as well as falling within the laws of fair use.
Meanwhile people like Jynx continue to break the community guidelines and copyright laws in their plank and reaction videos and face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever.
Quote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?
Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 28, 2016, 08:38:00 PMExept you're ignoring the fact that Youtube has a clear set of rules and regulations that are agreed toIndeed it does.Have you read it?Quote4. General Use of the ServiceβPermissions and RestrictionsYouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:[...]J. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.Quoteand the people like I Hate Everything and ThatGuyWithTheGlasses are clearly obeying, as well as falling within the laws of fair use.Which do not necessarily apply to a privately-run business such as YouTube.You are always protected by fair use laws--on your own website.QuoteMeanwhile people like Jynx continue to break the community guidelines and copyright laws in their plank and reaction videos and face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever.No one's saying that isn't bullshit.
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:44:25 PMQuote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 28, 2016, 08:38:00 PMExept you're ignoring the fact that Youtube has a clear set of rules and regulations that are agreed toIndeed it does.Have you read it?Quote4. General Use of the ServiceβPermissions and RestrictionsYouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:[...]J. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.Quoteand the people like I Hate Everything and ThatGuyWithTheGlasses are clearly obeying, as well as falling within the laws of fair use.Which do not necessarily apply to a privately-run business such as YouTube.You are always protected by fair use laws--on your own website.QuoteMeanwhile people like Jynx continue to break the community guidelines and copyright laws in their plank and reaction videos and face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever.No one's saying that isn't bullshit.If there is ever a REALLY good alternative that is NOT bullshit like this and just as popular as YouTube, I'm packing my bags and moving there.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:49:58 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:44:25 PMQuote from: ChaosMetalDragon on January 28, 2016, 08:38:00 PMExept you're ignoring the fact that Youtube has a clear set of rules and regulations that are agreed toIndeed it does.Have you read it?Quote4. General Use of the ServiceβPermissions and RestrictionsYouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service as set forth in these Terms of Service, provided that:[...]J. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.Quoteand the people like I Hate Everything and ThatGuyWithTheGlasses are clearly obeying, as well as falling within the laws of fair use.Which do not necessarily apply to a privately-run business such as YouTube.You are always protected by fair use laws--on your own website.QuoteMeanwhile people like Jynx continue to break the community guidelines and copyright laws in their plank and reaction videos and face absolutely no repercussions whatsoever.No one's saying that isn't bullshit.If there is ever a REALLY good alternative that is NOT bullshit like this and just as popular as YouTube, I'm packing my bags and moving there.There is Vimeo and Dailymotion but they're nowhere near as big as YouTube is.
Quote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.Keep an eye on Cr1tiKal and Jon CJG then. I'm subbed to those guys as well.Just be on the lookout for bullshit to happen anytime soon, because you'll never know when it can occur.
TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:52:29 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.Keep an eye on Cr1tiKal and Jon CJG then. I'm subbed to those guys as well.Just be on the lookout for bullshit to happen anytime soon, because you'll never know when it can occur.as long as the zaibatsu is okay Im fine with anything
Quote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:53:53 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:52:29 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.Keep an eye on Cr1tiKal and Jon CJG then. I'm subbed to those guys as well.Just be on the lookout for bullshit to happen anytime soon, because you'll never know when it can occur.as long as the zaibatsu is okay Im fine with anythingIf he has any copyright content, even a tiny amount in on video he's just in a greater risk as the rest of us.I know this means nothing but it does mean something to me, to have 181 people subbed to your channel. It happened by random luck and I'm very happy that I have that many people subbed, if I lost all of that and all of my videos.... Just, fuck. I don't know what I'm going to do.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:52:29 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.Keep an eye on Cr1tiKal and Jon CJG then. I'm subbed to those guys as well.Just be on the lookout for bullshit to happen anytime soon, because you'll never know when it can occur.Jon is pretty careful when it comes to copyright.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:56:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:53:53 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:52:29 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on January 28, 2016, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:40:39 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 28, 2016, 08:38:14 PMQuote from: Ender on January 28, 2016, 08:36:15 PMI've not seen this happen to any youtubers.You probably don't use it too often, then. There's not a week that goes by without some big YouTuber having to deal with some bullshit copyright claim--it's happened at least once to almost everybody I've ever watched.I watch videos on YouTube nearly 24/7.Who do you watch?TheSw1tvher(Two Best Friends/Super Best Friends/ Zaibatsu. - all the same channel btw) Criken, Jesse Cox (don't really watch but I'm subbed) some Yogscast guys, Node, ShoddyCast, Vaati, dunkey, yongyea, mass1ay3r, Machinima, Jon, ign, harshly critical, hat films, defendthehouse Cryaotic, marblehornets, bloody disgusting, Birgirpall <3, AlChestBreachThose are only the more popular ones.Keep an eye on Cr1tiKal and Jon CJG then. I'm subbed to those guys as well.Just be on the lookout for bullshit to happen anytime soon, because you'll never know when it can occur.as long as the zaibatsu is okay Im fine with anythingIf he has any copyright content, even a tiny amount in on video he's just in a greater risk as the rest of us.I know this means nothing but it does mean something to me, to have 181 people subbed to your channel. It happened by random luck and I'm very happy that I have that many people subbed, if I lost all of that and all of my videos.... Just, fuck. I don't know what I'm going to do.They do game LP's, work for Machinima (they dislike working for them, but they have a contract), do podcasts etc. Normal stuff. I'm sure they'll be fine
Ever heard of Two Best Friends Play? Best LPers on the Internet, and they don't have to deal with any shit like this? Why?They have their own website. Others should follow suit.
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