Spoiler I know we've had a few threads, but... (Blade Runner 2049)

...it was just pretty good. It was cheap sex for my eyes and ears. Dialogue ranged from just serviceable to fucking terrible. There was one likeable, well-executed character (Lieutenant Joshi), and the visuals, while orgasmic at times, thematically felt more like something I'd look for in a Boba Fett Star Wars game than a cyberpunk noir follow-up to the original. The use of lighting in some shots is.... oddly stimulating, at least on first viewing. To that affect, this film just feels like "Palpatine Explaining the Tragedy of Darth Plageuis, the Wise to Anaking from Revenge of the Sith: The Movie."

Gosling does his best to bring the protagonist alive but between his "simply okay" acting ability and nothing-to-write-home-about characterisation it's hard to feel anything towards the guy. Jared Leto and Love were both absolutely AWFUL. Leto spouts some pretensious-ass anime bullshit every time he's on screen. As the only two antagonists in the film, it suffers for it. Ford feels like he's mailing it in on this one, even if he is one of the more interesting characters to watch on-screen.

The hologram waifu and sex with a prostitute was an understated weird, but maybe that was the point. I can't see any good reason for a gigantic hologram advertisement to be completely nude though, that's pretty blatantly exploitation.

And maybe I was just confused or can tell where the story is going, but was it obvious to anyone else that Deckard had twins and Gosling is one of them? The first shot of the film is a focus on K's vividly green eyes, and then Deckard mentions that "She [Rachael, romantic partner] had green eyes." The movie establishes that two Replicants had identical DNA despite one being a girl and one being a boy. When K shows the girl the memory she tells him that it's a real memory and starts to cry -- my brother interpretted this to mean that she saw her own memory and got emotional, but she had just established that you're not allowed to get real memories implanted, which means it must be his memory. Then the one-eyed chick throws K's idea about him being the child out the window which, to me, points to them setting up that reveal in the sequel. Maybe I'm just missing something.

I honestly recommend watching it at least once in theatres, but considering it started to drag along near the 2 hour mark, I can't see myself watching this as much as the original, or any of my other favourite movies. I would have liked a little more audio/visual storytelling rather than expository dialogue. The film only puts its feet into that pool instead of taking a nose-dive, which granted is still better than most films today, but it's something that the original did so well it's hard not to feel a little watered-down. As far as sequels to 80's classics, you haven't really got much better than this so far, but I feel as though making a new IP would have allowed the team a little more creative liberties that might have suited the director's vision better.

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I forgot to praise a lot but something I think I should have mentioned more of was the sound design, ESPECIALLY the gun shots. They felt so exceptionally powerful and mechanical which has an interesting relationship with the futuristic visuals.

I mean I see people praising the world building in this movie and I just can't help but question it. This isn't "excellent" world building, it's slightly above average and nowhere near where a film like this should be. Considering the plot, I'd say the film could have used a little less world building if it meant a bit more focus on other aspects.

Yeah, I don't really agree with your criticisms, but I think the idea is supposed to be that Kay was a clone of Deckard's child. They said earlier in the film that Deckard's child was a male and there was a female clone made that died. However, it was revealed that this was a lie made up in order to cover their tracks, and the child was a female, so the clone must have been a male. Kay was given Deckard's child's memories to reinforce the cover.

I thought it was pretty obvious in the movie when they did the whole exposition flashback that Deckard scrambled the DNA information when he went into hiding to avoid suspicion of his daughter. I mean, it was the only dumb part of the movie.

Wallace literally saved humanity with his GMO farming and is the biggest supplier of replicant technology, so it's understandable he'd have god complex tier dialogue. His acting was one of the best parts of the movie. Dunno why this was a deal breaker for you.

I think your criticisms are fairly misplaced, but eh to each their own.

Wallace literally saved humanity with his GMO farming and is the biggest supplier of replicant technology, so it's understandable he'd have god complex tier dialogue. His acting was one of the best parts of the movie. Dunno why this was a deal breaker for you.

the guy takes a dramatic pause during every scene he's in to subsitute good acting. just because it makes sense for him to have dumb dialogue doesnt really make it okay. i think he was far and away the weakest part of the film.

the more i think about it, the more i see this film as the industry's equivalent of destiny: hightened audio and visuals (though the audio does most of the work here) carry the film to, what i would consider to be, undeserved praise by masquerading as something its not.

don't get me wrong, it's proportionately better and doesn't have the same flaws, hence why i actually like the film, but the analogy still works.

Yeah, I don't really agree with your criticisms, but I think the idea is supposed to be that Kay was a clone of Deckard's child. They said earlier in the film that Deckard's child was a male and there was a female clone made that died. However, it was revealed that this was a lie made up in order to cover their tracks, and the child was a female, so the clone must have been a male. Kay was given Deckard's child's memories to reinforce the cover.

Is that what it was supposed to be? A clone? So he really did have those memories.

That still makes him special though so IDK why they felt the need to be lke "Nah we all thought we were the one but we're all just ordinary".

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Yeah, I don't really agree with your criticisms, but I think the idea is supposed to be that Kay was a clone of Deckard's child. They said earlier in the film that Deckard's child was a male and there was a female clone made that died. However, it was revealed that this was a lie made up in order to cover their tracks, and the child was a female, so the clone must have been a male. Kay was given Deckard's child's memories to reinforce the cover.

Is that what it was supposed to be? A clone? So he really did have those memories.

That still makes him special though so IDK why they felt the need to be lke "Nah we all thought we were the one but we're all just ordinary".

I guess, even without the memories, they all still fantasized that they were the child, and just assumed that Kay did the same, even though Kay was actually linked to the child. The only people that would be aware of this is Deckard's actual child and the viewer. That's my interpretation at least, although I may need to rewatch it.

Thanks for the spoilers guys sheesh

theres a spoiler tag on the thread.

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I expect no less from someone who likes Warframe

I expect no less from someone who likes Warframe

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I expect no less from someone who likes Warframe

go buy some oversized tshirts

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