if someone told me they were a pedophile, the first thing i'd ask is if they've actually molested a child
if they would ever molest a child if they haven't already

and if they say "no"
then i'm okay with them

I agree with Verby here. You can't decide how you're born, but you can have the willpower to restrain yourself.

Seriously it's their life and if the one thing they really want to do in life is have sex with a kid then who am I to judge?

Judging people is fun.

Situations aren't black and white

so where do you draw the line

i mean, putting aside the fact that what you just said is completely morally bankrupt and objectively wrong

at what point is it okay to judge someone else's life
when is the "it's their life" rationale go stale

murder?
rape?
theft?

are all these things okay to you, just because "it's their life"?

Quote from: Blackbox Rob on March 21, 2015, 11:36:55 AM

Quote from: Loaf on March 21, 2015, 11:27:33 AM

Even if they did touch kids I don't think I would really care. Seriously it's their life and if the one thing they really want to do in life is have sex with a kid then who am I to judge? Sure that kid will probably be traumatized by it which sucks but it's not my concern. I think it's great that the guy was able to have fun doing what he wanted to do but shitty for the kid that he got molested. Situations aren't black and white.

Lack of empathy is one of the most striking features of people with narcissistic personality disorder. It's a hallmark of the disorder in the same way that fear of abandonment is in borderline personality disorder.

Says the person who has a picture of morgan freedman with dank nugs all over his head.

Doesn't change your lack of empathy.

Quote from: Loaf on March 21, 2015, 11:27:33 AM

Situations aren't black and white

so where do you draw the line

i mean, putting aside the fact that what you just said is completely morally bankrupt and objectively wrong

at what point is it okay to judge someone else's life
when is the "it's their life" rationale go stale

murder?
rape?
theft?

are all these things okay to you, just because "it's their life"?

The line is when what you do affects other people.  At least, without their permission.  You have the right to do what you want, so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of another.  Once you violate that, you lose your rights, and will/should be  dealt with accordingly.
I don't understand how it's that hard for people to understand.

unless you were agreeing with me, in which case
you went about that in a weird way

You guys act like there's rules to how life should play out.

there are

i've judged my friends for doing things that i disagreed with before
severely

there's nothing wrong with judging people
you're not eternally condemning them

you're just stating your disapproval of their actions

Holy Jesus i was just saying.  It wasn't against you, which is why I say "people."  God forbid somebody throws their two cents in.

well i'm sorry for snapping, but the way your post was worded, it seemed like you were trying to give me some kind of lecture, not just making a general statement

Quote from: Loaf on March 21, 2015, 11:47:48 AM

You guys act like there's rules to how life should play out.

there are

i've judged my friends for doing things that i disagreed with before
severely

there's nothing wrong with judging people
you're not eternally condemning them

you're just stating your disapproval of their actions

Quote from: Casper on March 21, 2015, 11:52:39 AM

Holy Jesus i was just saying.  It wasn't against you, which is why I say "people."  God forbid somebody throws their two cents in.

well i'm sorry for snapping, but the way your post was worded, it seemed like you were trying to give me some kind of lecture, not just making a general statement

Well look at it this way. There may be rules that are played out but there is no law of nature that governs the way human beings should behave. The way I judge people isn't based on whether or not their actions were good. What i judge them on is how they performed those actions. If they did it because it was a strong desire that is being true to yourself and what you truly think, unpersuaded by how other people think you should behave. Or if it's a foolish indoctrinated action that was performed because someone felt they were obligated to do it for their beliefs or something. People like that don't deserve my respect, but a serial killer or a pedophile probably deserves more respect because they were doing what they did in lue of these hindering factors. The people who commit deeds like rape on the other hand are less admirable because they are doing something which can be achieved through simply getting a date. If they really experience a thrill from raping someone then sure they have a little bit of respect from me.

I guess it also depends on what kind of a person they are besides their rape fetish and stuff. If they are a really cool person who just happens to really enjoy raping on the side of their career and livelihood then they are a bit cooler person in my book. There are so many factors that play into how I judge a person. I can't just say that someone does one thing bad so that makes everything else about them bad. A lot of times as I have stated previously the things that make a person bad aren't even bad to me. I am usually the one cheering for people like richard ramirez to kill as many people as possible. It's like a big hunting game, a show that is entertaining. what's the difference between someone killing a bunch of people in real life as there is in a movie. I look at people like hanible lecter from the movie silence of the lambs and I am in awe of them because they are seriously cool. Why can't I look at ted bundy or ed gien or richard ramirez or albert fish or john wayne gacy or perter kurten and feel the same way.

i can't

i can't do it

i can't

i can't do it

even I'd back out here...

Good to see nothing's changed around here.

You may say that you possibly can't trust a person who breaks the moral boundaries but what is the difference between a person who breaks the moral boundaries and a person who doesn't?

One's fucking immoral, and one isn't. . .

Big difference.