You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

I know. But trappy is strange. I probably don't have to tell any of you that. The thing with trappy, is that if you tell him you care, it bounces off of him. "Oh how are you doing Sandy I was so worried" yada yada, won't even affect him. To him, simple actions speak volumes more to him than words. And I know that's a little hard to ask since this is the internet and all. I mean what else could you do other than words? The simple thing you can do, is show up. Have a presence.

Quote from: RC5908 on December 05, 2014, 01:15:50 PM

You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

I know. But trappy is strange. I probably don't have to tell any of you that. The thing with trappy, is that if you tell him you care, it bounces off of him. "Oh how are you doing Sandy I was so worried" yada yada, won't even affect him. To him, simple actions speak volumes more to him than words. And I know that's a little hard to ask since this is the internet and all. I mean what else could you do other than words? The simple thing you can do, is show up. Have a presence.

Do you mean IRL? Like, across the water?

Quote from: Relatively Quiet on December 05, 2014, 01:20:15 PM

Quote from: RC5908 on December 05, 2014, 01:15:50 PM

You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

I know. But trappy is strange. I probably don't have to tell any of you that. The thing with trappy, is that if you tell him you care, it bounces off of him. "Oh how are you doing Sandy I was so worried" yada yada, won't even affect him. To him, simple actions speak volumes more to him than words. And I know that's a little hard to ask since this is the internet and all. I mean what else could you do other than words? The simple thing you can do, is show up. Have a presence.

Do you mean IRL? Like, across the water?

No. Just show up here. Say hello. Just, talk with him. Don't cry in his direction. Talk with him like you normally would. Trappy hates being under the spotlight, and really, really seems to close up if you throw love his way for some reason. But if you just talk, he'll feel better.

And you might ask about the thread he made. That put him under the spotlight. And he talked to me personally. He wanted to dissappear off the radar and let that six month thing go into effect if he didn't make it. But he listens to his heart. He cares more about people than himself. And those messages of his, were more about saying goodbye to friends and people here.

Never once have I ever known him not to say goodbye to me. Always says hello, always says goodbye in case something happens. So the fact that he didn't just leave without a word, shows how much he cares about people here. He fought his own depression and anxiety about having attention on himself and made it known what was happening.

Quote from: Relatively Quiet on December 05, 2014, 01:27:45 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on December 05, 2014, 01:22:47 PM

Quote from: Relatively Quiet on December 05, 2014, 01:20:15 PM

Quote from: RC5908 on December 05, 2014, 01:15:50 PM

You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

I know. But trappy is strange. I probably don't have to tell any of you that. The thing with trappy, is that if you tell him you care, it bounces off of him. "Oh how are you doing Sandy I was so worried" yada yada, won't even affect him. To him, simple actions speak volumes more to him than words. And I know that's a little hard to ask since this is the internet and all. I mean what else could you do other than words? The simple thing you can do, is show up. Have a presence.

Do you mean IRL? Like, across the water?

No. Just show up here. Say hello. Just, talk with him. Don't cry in his direction. Talk with him like you normally would. Trappy hates being under the spotlight, and really, really seems to close up if you throw love his way for some reason. But if you just talk, he'll feel better.

And you might ask about the thread he made. That put him under the spotlight. And he talked to me personally. He wanted to dissappear off the radar and let that six month thing go into effect if he didn't make it. But he listens to his heart. He cares more about people than himself. And those messages of his, were more about saying goodbye to friends and people here.

Never once have I ever known him not to say goodbye to me. Always says hello, always says goodbye in case something happens. So the fact that he didn't just leave without a word, shows how much he cares about people here. He fought his own depression and anxiety about having attention on himself and made it known what was happening.

So just on the forum? Shit, I can do that. We have a regular PM for talking about writing, I'm sure having something to take his mind off things would be good.

Here's the thing. I might not even be able to get him to talk. But what I might be able to do, is use his care against him. I know that he'll want to check on friends. That's probably the best thing I'll be able to use on him to show up here. If you see him on, swarm him.

Quote from: BaconShelf on December 05, 2014, 01:29:55 PM

Quote from: Relatively Quiet on December 05, 2014, 01:27:45 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on December 05, 2014, 01:22:47 PM

Quote from: Relatively Quiet on December 05, 2014, 01:20:15 PM

Quote from: RC5908 on December 05, 2014, 01:15:50 PM

You don't even need to ask that. Most people here have been and will be nothing but supportive.

I know. But trappy is strange. I probably don't have to tell any of you that. The thing with trappy, is that if you tell him you care, it bounces off of him. "Oh how are you doing Sandy I was so worried" yada yada, won't even affect him. To him, simple actions speak volumes more to him than words. And I know that's a little hard to ask since this is the internet and all. I mean what else could you do other than words? The simple thing you can do, is show up. Have a presence.

Do you mean IRL? Like, across the water?

No. Just show up here. Say hello. Just, talk with him. Don't cry in his direction. Talk with him like you normally would. Trappy hates being under the spotlight, and really, really seems to close up if you throw love his way for some reason. But if you just talk, he'll feel better.

And you might ask about the thread he made. That put him under the spotlight. And he talked to me personally. He wanted to dissappear off the radar and let that six month thing go into effect if he didn't make it. But he listens to his heart. He cares more about people than himself. And those messages of his, were more about saying goodbye to friends and people here.

Never once have I ever known him not to say goodbye to me. Always says hello, always says goodbye in case something happens. So the fact that he didn't just leave without a word, shows how much he cares about people here. He fought his own depression and anxiety about having attention on himself and made it known what was happening.

So just on the forum? Shit, I can do that. We have a regular PM for talking about writing, I'm sure having something to take his mind off things would be good.

Here's the thing. I might not even be able to get him to talk. But what I might be able to do, is use his care against him. I know that he'll want to check on friends. That's probably the best thing I'll be able to use on him to show up here. If you see him on, swarm him.

Well tell him Bacon could always use some help with his writing :3

What about making an xmas card thread for him?

Maybe. I don't know though. Like I said, waterworks in his direction or even best wishes seem to just bounce off of him. But, it's worth a try.

For Christmas? I can do that. I can find the time. Christmas Day I'll drop in and give him whatever support, or morale boost I can.

I'd just like to say something here, before I go. Because I don't think you people really know Sandtrap as well as I do. I have no doubts that you appreciate whatever he's done, or said for you people. But I think you should realize how much this means to him. How much you people mean.

Trappy has probably said it before. He's emotionally fragile. Not just to his emotions, but to other's. But also, emotionally receptive. I've seen him do it before. He reads body language well, and can walk into a room full of people, and point them out. Who's stressed. Who's aggressive. Who's looking for a fight. Who you might be able to trust.

I think he gets that because he's seen a lot of fights in his life. He's been around, hundreds of arguments and fights. And most of his life, for the younger years, he was not only alone, but all he ever received from people outside his family was hate, disliking, put downs, and resentment. As a result, he's anxious.

He shuts down around people. In fact, not only is he anxious, he frightens easily. He is extremely timid. Despite his size, and his strength, he's scared half to death of people. I'm going to tell you a story. About me. As was discussed earlier, I'm gay. And I'm open about it. And up here, in these small farming communities, some people are less open minded.

One day, one of those people were making their opinion known. They had me cornered, and they were beating the shit out of me.Trappy found me. And he jumped in. At this point in time, he was already my friend. And I knew how terrified he was. He doesn't even know how to fight. He jumped in, directed attention away from me, and got the shit kicked out of him.

And he got up. He got back up every single time. And he goaded the guy on. Laughed at him. Pissed him off. And the guy stabbed him. Not fatally obviously. But right in the leg. And trappy got back up for me. By the time the police showed up, in response to the calls about a disturbance, the guy who was attacking me had multiple charges placed on him, and he got tossed far away into prison.

The point to all this is, despite how afraid he is of people, how mistrusting he is, he fights that. He fights fear when he needs to the most. And he will never, ever let any of you down. He will try everything in his ability to help. And if he knew any of you personally, he'd be right there at your side, whenever you called.

I ask that you don't let him down. Be here, when he shows up. Be there to say hello. Be there to just talk to him. Because I know that as afraid as he is, the worst thing about all this is that Sandtrap, just doesn't like himself very much. I don't know why. If I had to guess, it's because of all those years alone and all the crap he went through.

He gives love, and care, without question. And yet he never wants anything back. And he's stubborn. He's so stubborn. I think the only way you could get to him would be to take an object, make it out of love, and bash it into his head.

Thank you for reading this. I'll update you people when I can, I promise. But for now, I've got to head out.