Quote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.
I would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:45:21 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:31:38 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:28:25 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.I'm curious as to what happened, but you don't have to tell me if you think it's too personal.Long story short - I did not like the way they were off-loading my little brother on me all the time. Sure I was 14 and was at home all the time - good luck finding anything to do in that butt-end of the country, so I was stuck with him all the time and sometimes I would half-ass baby sitting and generally not giving a shit because I was tired of it. So eventually it just got to the point where I would not leave my room because I knew that as soon as I would be noticed, I would be forced to babysit.So one day I spoke to them and it got pretty bad and I literally got kicked out - I was delighted tbh, but yeah... That's pretty much it. Honestly, I am very happy that it happened (maybe not the way it did, but the fact that I had to just survive by myself with my own wits about me). Now I am fully independent.Not much of a family person, eh? How's it like having a smaller sibling?Ah hes pretty cool now. Was SO annoying when he was younger though.Right now, he is that typical ten year old who unironically wears an OBEY cap (I am dead fucking serious, he wears it) and watches cancer on YT (I probably am at fault here after showing him HowToBasic and some TF2 cringe). He is the cringiest entity in the house - but hes my brother. I actually have two more younger siblings (5 and 3 years old) - I am this fucking "Uncle Nikolai" to them. xD
Quote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:31:38 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:28:25 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.I'm curious as to what happened, but you don't have to tell me if you think it's too personal.Long story short - I did not like the way they were off-loading my little brother on me all the time. Sure I was 14 and was at home all the time - good luck finding anything to do in that butt-end of the country, so I was stuck with him all the time and sometimes I would half-ass baby sitting and generally not giving a shit because I was tired of it. So eventually it just got to the point where I would not leave my room because I knew that as soon as I would be noticed, I would be forced to babysit.So one day I spoke to them and it got pretty bad and I literally got kicked out - I was delighted tbh, but yeah... That's pretty much it. Honestly, I am very happy that it happened (maybe not the way it did, but the fact that I had to just survive by myself with my own wits about me). Now I am fully independent.Not much of a family person, eh? How's it like having a smaller sibling?
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:31:38 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:28:25 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.I'm curious as to what happened, but you don't have to tell me if you think it's too personal.Long story short - I did not like the way they were off-loading my little brother on me all the time. Sure I was 14 and was at home all the time - good luck finding anything to do in that butt-end of the country, so I was stuck with him all the time and sometimes I would half-ass baby sitting and generally not giving a shit because I was tired of it. So eventually it just got to the point where I would not leave my room because I knew that as soon as I would be noticed, I would be forced to babysit.So one day I spoke to them and it got pretty bad and I literally got kicked out - I was delighted tbh, but yeah... That's pretty much it. Honestly, I am very happy that it happened (maybe not the way it did, but the fact that I had to just survive by myself with my own wits about me). Now I am fully independent.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:28:25 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.I'm curious as to what happened, but you don't have to tell me if you think it's too personal.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?
Quote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.
Stuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility."a bit more"Rent, utility bills, internet/cell phone bills, insurance, car payments, paying for literally every object in your house, working full time, cleaning the house, maintaining the yard, caring for pets, etc.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:50:21 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:45:21 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:42:52 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:31:38 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 03:28:25 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:23:37 PMQuote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 01:06:14 PMQuote from: Kits on June 30, 2016, 01:03:11 PMStuck in my one bedroom apartment for another year and paying $1,000 a month for it now ::crying::OT: moved out since I turned 18.Why? and where did you go?Kinda had a tough time with my parents and decided that I would be better off on my own.I also got some help from the government since they were giving me some money because I was a uni student. So I scraped by during first year, then got a summer job and managed to save up some money and that helped me a lot. Made a lot of good connections and my second year was easier. Life went uphill from there.I managed to get the family situation back together - but I still preferred my own living space. Trust me man, its really great - as long as you are not under constant financial pressure.I'm curious as to what happened, but you don't have to tell me if you think it's too personal.Long story short - I did not like the way they were off-loading my little brother on me all the time. Sure I was 14 and was at home all the time - good luck finding anything to do in that butt-end of the country, so I was stuck with him all the time and sometimes I would half-ass baby sitting and generally not giving a shit because I was tired of it. So eventually it just got to the point where I would not leave my room because I knew that as soon as I would be noticed, I would be forced to babysit.So one day I spoke to them and it got pretty bad and I literally got kicked out - I was delighted tbh, but yeah... That's pretty much it. Honestly, I am very happy that it happened (maybe not the way it did, but the fact that I had to just survive by myself with my own wits about me). Now I am fully independent.Not much of a family person, eh? How's it like having a smaller sibling?Ah hes pretty cool now. Was SO annoying when he was younger though.Right now, he is that typical ten year old who unironically wears an OBEY cap (I am dead fucking serious, he wears it) and watches cancer on YT (I probably am at fault here after showing him HowToBasic and some TF2 cringe). He is the cringiest entity in the house - but hes my brother. I actually have two more younger siblings (5 and 3 years old) - I am this fucking "Uncle Nikolai" to them. xDYou could've guided him.I was my brother's shadow. He and his friends disliked me following him around everywhere, but I think that because I was mostly an observer they let it pass.
I'm quite content in my grandparents' attic.Besides, grandma needs some help looking after granpa lately. His health ain't all too well.
Quote from: 卐ANUDDA SHOAH卐 on June 30, 2016, 03:52:50 PMI'm quite content in my grandparents' attic.Besides, grandma needs some help looking after granpa lately. His health ain't all too well.LOOOL that's where you live? I thought you lived in some cabin in the middle of nowhere or something.
Quote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility."a bit more"Rent, utility bills, internet/cell phone bills, insurance, car payments, paying for literally every object in your house, working full time, cleaning the house, maintaining the yard, caring for pets, etc.These are optional, except cleaning your house, which isn't something that only adults do. What do you think, I let the house get messy for 2 months? That I just reuse the clothes that I've used? Cleaning has always been something that I do. Also, working fulltime doesn't have to do with living on your own
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:55:27 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility."a bit more"Rent, utility bills, internet/cell phone bills, insurance, car payments, paying for literally every object in your house, working full time, cleaning the house, maintaining the yard, caring for pets, etc.These are optional, except cleaning your house, which isn't something that only adults do. What do you think, I let the house get messy for 2 months? That I just reuse the clothes that I've used? Cleaning has always been something that I do. Also, working fulltime doesn't have to do with living on your ownI'm confused about which of those you think are optional. And yes, I can guarantee that you, as a teenager living with your parents, have never cleaned or maintained a house to the extent that a responsible homeowner/renter would themselves.You said you understand what living independently is like because your parents vacationed for a couple months as a kid and your brother worked, which is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to discourage you; I'm just giving examples of things that you should expect once you move.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:58:59 PMQuote from: 卐ANUDDA SHOAH卐 on June 30, 2016, 03:52:50 PMI'm quite content in my grandparents' attic.Besides, grandma needs some help looking after granpa lately. His health ain't all too well.LOOOL that's where you live? I thought you lived in some cabin in the middle of nowhere or something.Well, that attic could be in some cabin in the middle of nowhere.
Quote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 04:02:50 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:55:27 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility."a bit more"Rent, utility bills, internet/cell phone bills, insurance, car payments, paying for literally every object in your house, working full time, cleaning the house, maintaining the yard, caring for pets, etc.These are optional, except cleaning your house, which isn't something that only adults do. What do you think, I let the house get messy for 2 months? That I just reuse the clothes that I've used? Cleaning has always been something that I do. Also, working fulltime doesn't have to do with living on your ownI'm confused about which of those you think are optional. And yes, I can guarantee that you, as a teenager living with your parents, have never cleaned or maintained a house to the extent that a responsible homeowner/renter would themselves.You said you understand what living independently is like because your parents vacationed for a couple months as a kid and your brother worked, which is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to discourage you; I'm just giving examples of things that you should expect once you move.What do you mean? I've cleaned the fridge, vacuum cleaned the floor, done the dishes, and cleaned my clothes. What else is there? What am I missing out on?
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 04:07:26 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 04:02:50 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:55:27 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:50:40 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility."a bit more"Rent, utility bills, internet/cell phone bills, insurance, car payments, paying for literally every object in your house, working full time, cleaning the house, maintaining the yard, caring for pets, etc.These are optional, except cleaning your house, which isn't something that only adults do. What do you think, I let the house get messy for 2 months? That I just reuse the clothes that I've used? Cleaning has always been something that I do. Also, working fulltime doesn't have to do with living on your ownI'm confused about which of those you think are optional. And yes, I can guarantee that you, as a teenager living with your parents, have never cleaned or maintained a house to the extent that a responsible homeowner/renter would themselves.You said you understand what living independently is like because your parents vacationed for a couple months as a kid and your brother worked, which is just ridiculous. I'm not trying to discourage you; I'm just giving examples of things that you should expect once you move.What do you mean? I've cleaned the fridge, vacuum cleaned the floor, done the dishes, and cleaned my clothes. What else is there? What am I missing out on?Are you joking?
I'm starting to think that you're saying this because you were taken aback by the fact that you don't have servants to clean and cook for you, and so you type out how difficult it is to live on your own.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 04:18:06 PMI'm starting to think that you're saying this because you were taken aback by the fact that you don't have servants to clean and cook for you, and so you type out how difficult it is to live on your own.I don't feel a need to list chores for some dumb teen on the internet who thinks insurance is optional and believes extent of home care is cleaning the fridge and vacuuming. I didn't tell you it was difficult, I said there are significantly more responsibilities than you are aware of.
Someone's not good at admitting they were wrong.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 04:23:13 PMSomeone's not good at admitting they were wrong.Wrong about...?Are you looking to live in a dorm or an apartment when you go to college?
Quote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 04:37:10 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 04:23:13 PMSomeone's not good at admitting they were wrong.Wrong about...?Are you looking to live in a dorm or an apartment when you go to college?Apartment. I don't think dorms exist here
Quote from: FatherlyNick on June 30, 2016, 04:00:49 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:58:59 PMQuote from: 卐ANUDDA SHOAH卐 on June 30, 2016, 03:52:50 PMI'm quite content in my grandparents' attic.Besides, grandma needs some help looking after granpa lately. His health ain't all too well.LOOOL that's where you live? I thought you lived in some cabin in the middle of nowhere or something.Well, that attic could be in some cabin in the middle of nowhere.Something tells me it is
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 04:48:19 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.What, you're not allowed to go outside? Is there some kind of rule that you have to have a family in order to access more freedom? What restrictions are there?
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 04:48:19 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.What, you're not allowed to go outside? Is there some kind of rule that you have to have a family in order to access more freedom? What restrictions are there?You admitted that adulthood begets more responsibility, and Turkey brought up a plethora of them.Responsibility negates freedom. How can you be free when you're beholden to so many things?
Quote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 05:13:23 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 04:48:19 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.What, you're not allowed to go outside? Is there some kind of rule that you have to have a family in order to access more freedom? What restrictions are there?You admitted that adulthood begets more responsibility, and Turkey brought up a plethora of them.Responsibility negates freedom. How can you be free when you're beholden to so many things?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JVILrFjemQ&feature=youtu.be&t=16sHow does responsibility negate freedom? Responsibility isn't an obligation, it's pressure. A man has more freedom outside of his dungeon even though he won't be getting food and safety from the dungeon.
Quote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 05:13:23 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 04:48:19 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.What, you're not allowed to go outside? Is there some kind of rule that you have to have a family in order to access more freedom? What restrictions are there?You admitted that adulthood begets more responsibility, and Turkey brought up a plethora of them.Responsibility negates freedom. How can you be free when you're beholden to so many things?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JVILrFjemQ&feature=youtu.be&t=16sHow does responsibility negate freedom? Responsibility isn't an obligation, it's pressure. A man has more freedom outside of his dungeon even though he won't be getting food and safety from the dungeon.It is obligation.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 05:21:04 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:19:43 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 05:13:23 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 05:11:26 PMQuote from: Verbatim on June 30, 2016, 04:48:19 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:46:23 PMQuote from: HrfulTurkie on June 30, 2016, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: Desty on June 30, 2016, 03:22:31 PMI would know what living on your own is like, because my parents go on vacation every summer and leave me and my brother behind.Home alone as a kid is nothing like living by yourself as an adult.Yeah, feels like being an adult gives you more freedom and also a bit more responsibility.Less freedom. Way, way less freedom.What, you're not allowed to go outside? Is there some kind of rule that you have to have a family in order to access more freedom? What restrictions are there?You admitted that adulthood begets more responsibility, and Turkey brought up a plethora of them.Responsibility negates freedom. How can you be free when you're beholden to so many things?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JVILrFjemQ&feature=youtu.be&t=16sHow does responsibility negate freedom? Responsibility isn't an obligation, it's pressure. A man has more freedom outside of his dungeon even though he won't be getting food and safety from the dungeon.It is obligation.No, it isn't. You're not being thrown out, you're throwing out trash, or cooking your own food. You don't have to keep these things up, but you ought to. You're not gonna be spoonfed- no, but you are gonna be able to make your own food and eat it. You're gonna find means to make money on your own, and you're gonna manage your own small castle. The good man would do his best to improve the castle, but it isn't needed. You can have a shitty home and eat-take out everyday while living on wellfare.
I'm moving out ASAP
