Quote from: Verbatim on June 16, 2017, 11:40:57 AM

Quote from: Kakashi597 on June 16, 2017, 11:30:44 AM

Quote from: challengerX on June 16, 2017, 11:28:59 AM

Verbatim likes Scarface? That's kind of weird.

i thought so too

lol why

it's a good-ass movie

mos def but I didn't think you'd like any of the messages or relate to Tony Montana

i relate to tony a little bit—he's protective of his loved ones, and his anger, though righteous, can sometimes blind him from the truth, or just make him look bad, when he's just trying to express himself, or keep his sister out of danger, for example

one of my favorite scenes is when

obviously he's not all good, but either way, it's hard not to like him when pacino plays him so goddamn well

as for the messages, i always viewed it as an anti-excess movie with a message of "don't let your aspirations go to your head"—any time people say a movie is "glorifying" drugs and violence, i always think it's doing the exact opposite, because this is a very anti-drug movie to me

tony's life rises to the top as a drug lord, sure, but it's also what eventually leads to his downfall—he could've chose a modest crime-free life, but he got greedy, so the movie is about what happens when you let your greed and lust for life strangle whatever goodness you may have had before

Quote from: Kakashi597 on June 16, 2017, 11:49:22 AM

mostly what challenger said but also, because i didn't think it was as good as everyone else made it to be, and you have a contrarian streak to you

this was before i found out about your "overrated =/= bad" opinion

i'm a sucker for stylish character studies and quotable gangster movies

when i first saw it, i wasn't expecting for it to have much of a plot, but it did, so that was a pleasant surprise

the only part that i thought was kinda weird is the same part that everyone else seems to forget about

Spoiler

the weird incestuous stuff towards the end

it ain't my favorite movie, probably top 30, you could've said goodfellas or requiem for a dream instead, because those movies hit a lot closer to home for me

yeah, that's what i've put together since then

i was going to say scorsese too but i figured i should probably only list one or two things from any given genre, and scarface was the one thing that stook out to me