I'm not having sex until I'm married

RomanGladiator · March 01, 2016, 03:40:51 PM

Because my pastor who molested five ten year old boys told me it's the right thing to do.

Aether · March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM

this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.

DAS B00T x2 · March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM

this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.

your mom is a little undercooked.

Aether · March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.

Well at least she's not roasted.

Onyx Sentinel · March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.

Lets not get into spit roasts.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 03:53:08 PM

Or because you value the relationship you'll eventually have with your wife more than your sexual cravings.

You don't even need to be religious to want to wait until marriage -- I certainly didn't.

DAS B00T x2 · March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.

No, let's.

Onyx Sentinel · March 01, 2016, 03:55:54 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.
No, let's.

I'm being serious, Don't GO there Das Boot, YOU'RE CROSSING the line!

DAS B00T x2 · March 01, 2016, 03:57:14 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:55:54 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.
No, let's.
I'm being serious, Don't GO there Das Boot, YOU'RE CROSSING the line!

I AM THE LINE!

Onyx Sentinel · March 01, 2016, 04:05:12 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:57:14 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.
No, let's.
I'm being serious, Don't GO there Das Boot, YOU'RE CROSSING the line!
I AM THE LINE!

You've just CROSSED the LINE!!

DAS B00T x2 · March 01, 2016, 04:07:29 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 04:05:12 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.
No, let's.
I'm being serious, Don't GO there Das Boot, YOU'RE CROSSING the line!
I AM THE LINE!
You've just CROSSED the LINE!!

you can cross DEEZ NUTS

Ian · March 01, 2016, 04:08:18 PM

Hah! Got em!

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 04:07:29 PM

you can cross DEEZ NUTS

SecondClass · March 01, 2016, 04:10:17 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 03:53:08 PM

Or because you value the relationship you'll eventually have with your wife more than your sexual cravings.

You know you can actually have sex with someone while you enjoy their personality and character, and (gasp) you don't need to be married to do it?

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:13:14 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:10:17 PM

You know you can actually have sex with someone while you enjoy their personality and character, and (gasp) you don't need to be married to do it?

Uh, yeah. Obviously.

SecondClass · March 01, 2016, 04:15:38 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:13:14 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:10:17 PM
You know you can actually have sex with someone while you enjoy their personality and character, and (gasp) you don't need to be married to do it?

Uh, yeah. Obviously.

That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:19:38 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:15:38 PM

That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

If you truly valued the relationship, you would want it to last as long as possible. The best way to achieve this is to encourage both parties to wait until marriage to ensure that both people take the commitment seriously.

Dietrich Six · March 01, 2016, 04:21:01 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:19:38 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:15:38 PM
That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

If you truly valued the relationship, you would want it to last as long as possible. The best way to achieve this is to encourage both parties to wait until marriage to ensure that both people take the commitment seriously.

That's a good way to marry the wrong person

SecondClass · March 01, 2016, 04:21:32 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:19:38 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:15:38 PM
That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

If you truly valued the relationship, you would want it to last as long as possible. The best way to achieve this is to encourage both parties to wait until marriage to ensure that both people take the commitment seriously.

It can last just as long having sex as not having sex. The best way to achieve a relationship lasting a long time is about listening, honesty, and excitement, not abstaining from having sex.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:22:47 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 01, 2016, 04:21:01 PM

That's a good way to marry the wrong person

It's the best way to marry the right person.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:25:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:21:32 PM

It can last just as long having sex as not having sex. The best way to achieve a relationship lasting a long time is about listening, honesty, and excitement, not abstaining from having sex.

Those certainly have something to do with it, but ultimately, there are far too many demonstrable benefits that abstaining from sex until marriage provides for me to care for your sexually-fueled perspective.

Onyx Sentinel · March 01, 2016, 04:27:12 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 04:07:29 PM

Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 04:05:12 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Ghost of Reach on March 01, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:48:08 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 01, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 01, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
this witberries and cream pie is a little undercooked.
your mom is a little undercooked.
Well at least she's not roasted.
Lets not get into spit roasts.
No, let's.
I'm being serious, Don't GO there Das Boot, YOU'RE CROSSING the line!
I AM THE LINE!
You've just CROSSED the LINE!!
you can cross DEEZ NUTS

Would you like some MOIST TOWELETTES with that?

Dietrich Six · March 01, 2016, 04:27:41 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:25:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:21:32 PM
It can last just as long having sex as not having sex. The best way to achieve a relationship lasting a long time is about listening, honesty, and excitement, not abstaining from having sex.

Those certainly have something to do with it, but ultimately, there are far too many demonstrable benefits that abstaining from sex until marriage provides for me to care for your sexually-fueled perspective.

I would love some proof

Dietrich Six · March 01, 2016, 04:28:13 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:22:47 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 01, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
That's a good way to marry the wrong person

It's the best way to marry the right person.

No

Septy · March 01, 2016, 04:28:59 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:19:38 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on March 01, 2016, 04:15:38 PM
That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

If you truly valued the relationship, you would want it to last as long as possible. The best way to achieve this is to encourage both parties to wait until marriage to ensure that both people take the commitment seriously.

That's a load of bullshit and you know it.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:32:47 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 01, 2016, 04:27:41 PM

I would love some proof

I've already given all the "proof" I need to so far.

Children are better off not being born, but if sex is limited to only those who are married, then the child is automatically better off than if Tanya at the pub gives birth to her 3rd child that she can't afford to take care of. A stable home is preferable to a broken one. So there's one "proof".

The intimacy involved with your first is something you do not get back. If built upon, the relationships generally seem to last longer, which is both good for the parties involved and for any children that may come about. Granted, I don't have the evidence for this yet -- it's only something I've become recently adamant about.

And finally, the religious imperative. But no one cares about that.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:33:30 PM

Quote from: Septy on March 01, 2016, 04:28:59 PM

That's a load of bullshit and you know it.

No, it isn't, and no, I don't.

Dietrich Six · March 01, 2016, 04:37:40 PM

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:32:47 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 01, 2016, 04:27:41 PM
I would love some proof

I've already given all the "proof" I need to so far.

Children are better off not being born, but if sex is limited to only those who are married, then the child is automatically better off than if Tanya at the pub gives birth to her 3rd child that she can't afford to take care of. A stable home is preferable to a broken one. So there's one "proof".

The intimacy involved with your first is something you do not get back. If built upon, the relationships generally seem to last longer, which is both good for the parties involved and for any children that may come about. Granted, I don't have the evidence for this yet -- it's only something I've become recently adamant about.

And finally, the religious imperative. But no one cares about that.

I spy with my little eye zero evidence to support your claims.

Also, it's possible to have sex without creating a child. I have yet to have any children.

Thirdly, your first time is not a big deal.
I lost my virginity to a girl I loved very much and it was a wonderful experience, but it didn't save our relationship. Sex is sex, your first time should probably be with someone you care about but it's pretty meaningless otherwise.

Aaaannnnnnd if this is about religion than that's your choice and I have no comment on it either way.

Elai · March 01, 2016, 04:46:17 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on March 01, 2016, 04:37:40 PM

I spy with my little eye zero evidence to support your claims.

What sort of "evidence" would you like me to find for you that isn't of my own mind regarding the negative value assignment of life and the religious imperative? I will find evidence to support my emotional bonds bit, as I know it exists, but I've done a fairly good job thus far explaining the gist of it all. God forbid I don't know something.

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Also, it's possible to have sex without creating a child. I have yet to have any children.

0 risk > a little risk

That's my point.

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I lost my virginity to a girl I loved very much and it was a wonderful experience, but it didn't save our relationship.

Sex is not meant to save your relationship. Imagine if you had waited until you met your wife to have sex, what kind of an emotional journey that would be. Discovering each other's kinks and what not. I don't know what sexually active people do, I can only speculate.

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Aaaannnnnnd if this is about religion than that's your choice and I have no comment on it either way.

It's only partially about that, and I try not to harp on it because I know I'll gain no traction using that as a basis. I was like this before I became theistic.