Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:31:39 AM

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

This is true actually, since things that suck always seem to drag on forever and things that are great tend to be gone in an instant. For whatever reason, the way we perceive things makes the bad last much longer than the good.

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:31:39 AM

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

This is true actually, since things that suck always seem to drag on forever and things that are great tend to be gone in an instant. For whatever reason, the way we perceive things makes the bad last much longer than the good.

It's all survival instinct. That nagging, shitty, depressing feeling that drags on and on. It gets under your skin. And, usually, forces you to do something. Forces you to act.

If we didn't have such a heavy focus on negative things, we wouldn't exist as we are today.

If some ancient Human wasn't focused on rival tribes coming to do bad shit, or a predator nearby that would kill him, then he'd be dead.

If we didn't look at anything we've built, and see inperfection and feel unsatisfied, then technology would not exist.

So, a rather shit side effect of being globally interconnected? Tidal waves of garbage. Or technology has evolved but we haven't.

Again, not neccessarily our fault. Evolution is rather slow. Which is why through technology, maybe one day this can be changed.

And what about when that all turns into depression? That does the opposite of motivate someone to keep moving for survival.

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Na. You don't hate people. Because if you did, you'd be shooting up a church or something. Strong dislike is a much better glove to fit that hand.

Now, I'm no fan of people either. I'm no fan of our flaws. I'm no fan of how no matter what you do, you can't really win, with people. I'm no fan of our poorly constructed system and ways of doing things.

But, it's a guilty pleasure. Because not everybody's shitty. People surprise you. And that's nice. It's nice to find aspects and things about people that you can enjoy.

And most of all, hell, I would seriously like to see any other sapient species do better than us right now. Because, we're just taking our first steps. There are still, a hell of a lot of rough edges to smooth out with us as a species. Is it neccessarily nice to look at? Certainly not. It's rather depressing.

But those little rare finds among people are nice. Which is, primarily, why I'm here, right now.

As sick as I am of talking, in all forms, people here still surprise me. I still learn from them.

So while there's lots of ugly stuff about people, there's good things too. And for me at least, seeing those, finding those, and experiencing that, makes people worth it. Nobody's perfect Deci.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the better side of most people on this earth. I just can't. I feel like at least 75% of the population is infected with douchebaggyness and outright stupidity. This species is a joke.

Well, that's the rule of majority. Always been that way. But like I said. I would seriously like to see anybody or anything else do better.

I'm certainly not saying that everybody has a peachy side to them. But I am saying that the rare people you find that do make up for it.

And maybe that's a problem with today. With everything being so interconnected, all those channels open. You're going to hear about a hell of a lot of garbage. Which, comes down to an old point of mine.

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

Biologically, we are actually not designed to function with settling down. We don't look at good things so much. We don't focus on them for long because a good thing, is a good thing.

It's not a threat. So it's okay if it slips under the radar.

Which creates a very, very convincing illusion that we're all in fact surrounded by bullshit. When we're not. It's just that all the decent things go unheard of. Decent people, don't have spotlights of attention over them.

And that's why it seems like there's so much trash in the world.

Because nobody is built to give a shit about good things. It's not really our fault. It's just an old adaptation mechanism from older times.

I see. :/

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:31:39 AM

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:14:39 AM

Na. You don't hate people. Because if you did, you'd be shooting up a church or something. Strong dislike is a much better glove to fit that hand.

Now, I'm no fan of people either. I'm no fan of our flaws. I'm no fan of how no matter what you do, you can't really win, with people. I'm no fan of our poorly constructed system and ways of doing things.

But, it's a guilty pleasure. Because not everybody's shitty. People surprise you. And that's nice. It's nice to find aspects and things about people that you can enjoy.

And most of all, hell, I would seriously like to see any other sapient species do better than us right now. Because, we're just taking our first steps. There are still, a hell of a lot of rough edges to smooth out with us as a species. Is it neccessarily nice to look at? Certainly not. It's rather depressing.

But those little rare finds among people are nice. Which is, primarily, why I'm here, right now.

As sick as I am of talking, in all forms, people here still surprise me. I still learn from them.

So while there's lots of ugly stuff about people, there's good things too. And for me at least, seeing those, finding those, and experiencing that, makes people worth it. Nobody's perfect Deci.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the better side of most people on this earth. I just can't. I feel like at least 75% of the population is infected with douchebaggyness and outright stupidity. This species is a joke.

Well, that's the rule of majority. Always been that way. But like I said. I would seriously like to see anybody or anything else do better.

I'm certainly not saying that everybody has a peachy side to them. But I am saying that the rare people you find that do make up for it.

And maybe that's a problem with today. With everything being so interconnected, all those channels open. You're going to hear about a hell of a lot of garbage. Which, comes down to an old point of mine.

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

Biologically, we are actually not designed to function with settling down. We don't look at good things so much. We don't focus on them for long because a good thing, is a good thing.

It's not a threat. So it's okay if it slips under the radar.

Which creates a very, very convincing illusion that we're all in fact surrounded by bullshit. When we're not. It's just that all the decent things go unheard of. Decent people, don't have spotlights of attention over them.

And that's why it seems like there's so much trash in the world.

Because nobody is built to give a shit about good things. It's not really our fault. It's just an old adaptation mechanism from older times.

I see. :/

So. What do you do with that knowledge?

Be aware. Be aware that it's never totally as bad as it seems.

I don't know Sandtrap. Do you think there is still enough good out there to combat the bad and the shit?

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 01:11:06 AM

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:31:39 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 24, 2015, 12:21:01 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:14:39 AM

Na. You don't hate people. Because if you did, you'd be shooting up a church or something. Strong dislike is a much better glove to fit that hand.

Now, I'm no fan of people either. I'm no fan of our flaws. I'm no fan of how no matter what you do, you can't really win, with people. I'm no fan of our poorly constructed system and ways of doing things.

But, it's a guilty pleasure. Because not everybody's shitty. People surprise you. And that's nice. It's nice to find aspects and things about people that you can enjoy.

And most of all, hell, I would seriously like to see any other sapient species do better than us right now. Because, we're just taking our first steps. There are still, a hell of a lot of rough edges to smooth out with us as a species. Is it neccessarily nice to look at? Certainly not. It's rather depressing.

But those little rare finds among people are nice. Which is, primarily, why I'm here, right now.

As sick as I am of talking, in all forms, people here still surprise me. I still learn from them.

So while there's lots of ugly stuff about people, there's good things too. And for me at least, seeing those, finding those, and experiencing that, makes people worth it. Nobody's perfect Deci.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the better side of most people on this earth. I just can't. I feel like at least 75% of the population is infected with douchebaggyness and outright stupidity. This species is a joke.

Well, that's the rule of majority. Always been that way. But like I said. I would seriously like to see anybody or anything else do better.

I'm certainly not saying that everybody has a peachy side to them. But I am saying that the rare people you find that do make up for it.

And maybe that's a problem with today. With everything being so interconnected, all those channels open. You're going to hear about a hell of a lot of garbage. Which, comes down to an old point of mine.

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

Biologically, we are actually not designed to function with settling down. We don't look at good things so much. We don't focus on them for long because a good thing, is a good thing.

It's not a threat. So it's okay if it slips under the radar.

Which creates a very, very convincing illusion that we're all in fact surrounded by bullshit. When we're not. It's just that all the decent things go unheard of. Decent people, don't have spotlights of attention over them.

And that's why it seems like there's so much trash in the world.

Because nobody is built to give a shit about good things. It's not really our fault. It's just an old adaptation mechanism from older times.

I see. :/

So. What do you do with that knowledge?

Be aware. Be aware that it's never totally as bad as it seems.

I don't know Sandtrap. Do you think there is still enough good out there to combat the bad and the shit?

It doesn't have to neccessarily combat it. It's not a war. And it's not a scale you can really alter by choice. You can certainly try. But it's impossible to smile every day. And impossible to keep it up at all times.

No matter what you do, you will be visited by bad shit. And good shit. But, what it is, is an experience. And it's yours alone.

The simplest thing you can do with that, is knowing how to let go. Like greiving for somebody you've lost. Eventually, you'll be okay with it. You'll recover. Essentially. Take the good when it comes.

Or do your best to generate it.

And take the bad when it comes. Let it feel shitty because denying it is impossible.

But don't get hung up on it. Or it'll drag you down.

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Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 24, 2015, 12:21:01 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:14:39 AM

Na. You don't hate people. Because if you did, you'd be shooting up a church or something. Strong dislike is a much better glove to fit that hand.

Now, I'm no fan of people either. I'm no fan of our flaws. I'm no fan of how no matter what you do, you can't really win, with people. I'm no fan of our poorly constructed system and ways of doing things.

But, it's a guilty pleasure. Because not everybody's shitty. People surprise you. And that's nice. It's nice to find aspects and things about people that you can enjoy.

And most of all, hell, I would seriously like to see any other sapient species do better than us right now. Because, we're just taking our first steps. There are still, a hell of a lot of rough edges to smooth out with us as a species. Is it neccessarily nice to look at? Certainly not. It's rather depressing.

But those little rare finds among people are nice. Which is, primarily, why I'm here, right now.

As sick as I am of talking, in all forms, people here still surprise me. I still learn from them.

So while there's lots of ugly stuff about people, there's good things too. And for me at least, seeing those, finding those, and experiencing that, makes people worth it. Nobody's perfect Deci.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the better side of most people on this earth. I just can't. I feel like at least 75% of the population is infected with douchebaggyness and outright stupidity. This species is a joke.

Well, that's the rule of majority. Always been that way. But like I said. I would seriously like to see anybody or anything else do better.

I'm certainly not saying that everybody has a peachy side to them. But I am saying that the rare people you find that do make up for it.

And maybe that's a problem with today. With everything being so interconnected, all those channels open. You're going to hear about a hell of a lot of garbage. Which, comes down to an old point of mine.

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

Biologically, we are actually not designed to function with settling down. We don't look at good things so much. We don't focus on them for long because a good thing, is a good thing.

It's not a threat. So it's okay if it slips under the radar.

Which creates a very, very convincing illusion that we're all in fact surrounded by bullshit. When we're not. It's just that all the decent things go unheard of. Decent people, don't have spotlights of attention over them.

And that's why it seems like there's so much trash in the world.

Because nobody is built to give a shit about good things. It's not really our fault. It's just an old adaptation mechanism from older times.

I see. :/

So. What do you do with that knowledge?

Be aware. Be aware that it's never totally as bad as it seems.

I don't know Sandtrap. Do you think there is still enough good out there to combat the bad and the shit?

It doesn't have to neccessarily combat it. It's not a war. And it's not a scale you can really alter by choice. You can certainly try. But it's impossible to smile every day. And impossible to keep it up at all times.

No matter what you do, you will be visited by bad shit. And good shit. But, what it is, is an experience. And it's yours alone.

The simplest thing you can do with that, is knowing how to let go. Like greiving for somebody you've lost. Eventually, you'll be okay with it. You'll recover. Essentially. Take the good when it comes.

Or do your best to generate it.

And take the bad when it comes. Let it feel shitty because denying it is impossible.

But don't get hung up on it. Or it'll drag you down.

I'll try not to. Thank you man.

Quote from: Pendulate on June 24, 2015, 12:28:09 AM

On the contrary, I'd say that a species capable of logic and reason is the best thing to happen since sliced bread.

Is that what you'll be saying when anarchy kicks in and people break all the laws because civilization has ended?

It's bound to happen eventually.

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Quote from: Sandtrap on June 24, 2015, 12:14:39 AM

Na. You don't hate people. Because if you did, you'd be shooting up a church or something. Strong dislike is a much better glove to fit that hand.

Now, I'm no fan of people either. I'm no fan of our flaws. I'm no fan of how no matter what you do, you can't really win, with people. I'm no fan of our poorly constructed system and ways of doing things.

But, it's a guilty pleasure. Because not everybody's shitty. People surprise you. And that's nice. It's nice to find aspects and things about people that you can enjoy.

And most of all, hell, I would seriously like to see any other sapient species do better than us right now. Because, we're just taking our first steps. There are still, a hell of a lot of rough edges to smooth out with us as a species. Is it neccessarily nice to look at? Certainly not. It's rather depressing.

But those little rare finds among people are nice. Which is, primarily, why I'm here, right now.

As sick as I am of talking, in all forms, people here still surprise me. I still learn from them.

So while there's lots of ugly stuff about people, there's good things too. And for me at least, seeing those, finding those, and experiencing that, makes people worth it. Nobody's perfect Deci.

I'm sorry, but I can't see the better side of most people on this earth. I just can't. I feel like at least 75% of the population is infected with douchebaggyness and outright stupidity. This species is a joke.

Well, that's the rule of majority. Always been that way. But like I said. I would seriously like to see anybody or anything else do better.

I'm certainly not saying that everybody has a peachy side to them. But I am saying that the rare people you find that do make up for it.

And maybe that's a problem with today. With everything being so interconnected, all those channels open. You're going to hear about a hell of a lot of garbage. Which, comes down to an old point of mine.

As a species, we're designed to look at the bad things. Because in the past, focus directed at bad things, aka threats, helped save our asses. Focus, and thinking, and planning, being aware of the threat, saved and helped us.

Biologically, we are actually not designed to function with settling down. We don't look at good things so much. We don't focus on them for long because a good thing, is a good thing.

It's not a threat. So it's okay if it slips under the radar.

Which creates a very, very convincing illusion that we're all in fact surrounded by bullshit. When we're not. It's just that all the decent things go unheard of. Decent people, don't have spotlights of attention over them.

And that's why it seems like there's so much trash in the world.

Because nobody is built to give a shit about good things. It's not really our fault. It's just an old adaptation mechanism from older times.

I see. :/

So. What do you do with that knowledge?

Be aware. Be aware that it's never totally as bad as it seems.

I don't know Sandtrap. Do you think there is still enough good out there to combat the bad and the shit?

It doesn't have to neccessarily combat it. It's not a war. And it's not a scale you can really alter by choice. You can certainly try. But it's impossible to smile every day. And impossible to keep it up at all times.

No matter what you do, you will be visited by bad shit. And good shit. But, what it is, is an experience. And it's yours alone.

The simplest thing you can do with that, is knowing how to let go. Like greiving for somebody you've lost. Eventually, you'll be okay with it. You'll recover. Essentially. Take the good when it comes.

Or do your best to generate it.

And take the bad when it comes. Let it feel shitty because denying it is impossible.

But don't get hung up on it. Or it'll drag you down.

I'll try not to. Thank you man.

The point I missed. People gravitate towards what makes them feel good. And that should be the focus. Finding and doing what makes you feel good, so long as it does not infringe on another's well being or happiness.

No doubt I'd bet even the happiest person in the world has shitty days too. But if you can try and focus your attention onto things that make you happy, and divert your attention from staying focused on negative things for too long, then that's the best anybody can ask and strive for.

I can agree with you on that actually. It's just.... life is really fucking hard and irritating. :/

Wanna hear a rundown of my day?

It's not a guilt trip deal either. It's a perspective.

I woke up at six o' clock sharp. Did my restaurant business. But I was exhausted for some reason. Come later on in the day, I went back to sleep. Just an extra hour. I woke up, still exhausted.

The time of day showed up where it was time to head out. Do my usual farmhand work.

And I called in, and said that I just wasn't up for it. I felt like absolute shit. All I wanted to do was go the fuck to sleep today.

So, I was sitting there, and I said fuck it. I went out there. Late as fuck. Didn't get much done. But I tried anyway. And, after that, I went and visited my little niece. Promised her yesterday that I'd play some cards with her yesterday. And I knew she was feeling shitty last night and today.

So, I made her happy. Cheered her up because I've a sense of humor with kids. And, in the evening, I went to a little town library with her.

I dislike crowds. I dislike socializing. But I went anyway. And the people there were friendly. And, I did all of it on top of feeling like awalking pile of shit. Halfway through the day the sunlight on my eyes gave me a ripping fucking headache.

I still have it right now in fact. And tomorrow, I'm going to wake up tired because it was a long day. And, I'm choosing to stay up late, and talk to you, when by all rights, I should just go the fuck to sleep.

But. Look at it this way. My day wasn't cheery. My brother in law. He's stressed out of his tree with shit to do and shit that keeps breakind down. Tight time limits. He had a shit day.

My little niece? She had a shitty day, partially as well. Until I chose to go out there and turn it around.

You, most likely had a shit day.

Hell, most likely, 90% of the people here on this forum, had a less than agreeable day.

Life is hard. And it is irritating. You know how god damn difficult it was for me to even get up and do what I did today?  Or, anybody that I mentioned, for that matter?

But what am i going to do?

I'm not going to let it stick. And I haven't. I still feel ike shit now. This fucking headache is killing me. Various parts of me feel like they could use a damn fine tune up or replacement.

And yet here I am talking to you. About troubles on your end I don't know about. To a person I will never likely see in the flesh.

Why?

Because I can. Because all the shitty stuff previously in y day today?

It's nothing. And I won't let it stand in my way. Neither should you. Or anybody.

this just needs to stop

A successful parasite will live in symbiosis rather than just rampage through the place like a coffee and vindaloo mixer.