I'm robot.

Boop. Beep Boop. Bop.

it's a non-concept

I act however the fuck i act, ive no clue

I just act as I do.

I'm male, so, a lot?

I act however the fuck i act, ive no clue

Then maybe you don't have your definition of a man, or maybe it's vague, and thus not so important.

I don't give a fuck about acting "manly"

One of the parts of being manly in my book is that you should treat everyone with respect, because everyone might have a story to tell. It's what I think a man should act like, so I try my best.

I'm male, so, a lot?

I don't know, is it a lot? You're the judge of that, not me.

I just act as I do.

Are you satisfied with that? Ask yourself that, but don't give me the answer. Use it yourself to do what you want with it.

That's assuming men and women are the same,

no it isn't

it's only proposing that men and women should act the same, in terms of being excellent to each other

what you're doing is saying that one of the sexes is incapable of being ethical, which is just silly

I generally don't take "manliness" very seriously because I give zero fucks about fitting into whatever prescribed notion of what a man should be.

Not even when it's prescribed by yourself? If that's the case, then does that mean that you're insecure seeing as that logic must apply to all scenarios where you doubt your judgement?

Quote from: Verbatim on May 28, 2015, 03:50:55 PM

i don't give it a definition, because the idea is worthless to me

if "manliness" is generally defined to be "how a man should act", as you put it, then that necessarily excludes women from that equation

i'd amend that to "how men and women should act"--humanliness
and i already have another word for humanliness--it's called ethics

in which case, yes, i generally try my best to be an ethical person

That's assuming men and women are the same, but due to our different builds and such I think that it's our duty to help each other out to make up for the gaps.

give examples of situations that are actually consistently different between genders

thus far

One of the parts of being manly in my book is that you should treat everyone with respect, because everyone might have a story to tell. It's what I think a man should act like, so I try my best.

is definitely not an adequate example of something that isn't just trying to be a good person, rather than a good man specifically

I believe in ethics to have a common ground, but what I'm talking about is the differences here, not the similarities. Every sane person would want both sexes to act well (ethics), but what is considered well for one sex exclusively if it has to? What are those trademark things?

i don't think there are any

you could say that, since women are biologically the "weaker" sex, men have an ethical responsibility to protect them, which would be a fair argument if it wasn't such a bad generalization

some, if not most, women are very capable and independent without men

Not at all.

Quote from: Logicbot on May 28, 2015, 03:52:57 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 28, 2015, 03:50:55 PM

i don't give it a definition, because the idea is worthless to me

if "manliness" is generally defined to be "how a man should act", as you put it, then that necessarily excludes women from that equation

i'd amend that to "how men and women should act"--humanliness
and i already have another word for humanliness--it's called ethics

in which case, yes, i generally try my best to be an ethical person

That's assuming men and women are the same, but due to our different builds and such I think that it's our duty to help each other out to make up for the gaps.

give examples of situations that are actually consistently different between genders

thus far

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One of the parts of being manly in my book is that you should treat everyone with respect, because everyone might have a story to tell. It's what I think a man should act like, so I try my best.

is definitely not an adequate example of something that isn't just trying to be a good person, rather than a good man specifically

Our roles in society, and not in dreamland. Women are often more submissive than men, and that's one point. They can't help it after they've formed into these expectations, and therefore you should help them come to terms with what they are.

You're right, that's what a good person should do, but I'm a man, so I use what I know to apply it to scenarios that I'm familiar with. Most girls that I know are not like explained above. Same applies to men, but as a man, and human, I can say that my definition of manliness is this and that.

I could say human, but saying man is specifying more, and it doesn't leave me open to too many assumptions. I don't know what it's like to be a woman, but I do know what it's like to be a man.