Quote from: ❤Midna👌👌😂😂 on February 09, 2016, 12:57:02 AM

I get that a fair bit, but normally it's when I've decided to give up on doing something when whatever I hoped to accomplish was literally just around the corner.

Nowadays it's like I plan my day and try to account for as many situations as possible, and then get caught by surprise by something unexpected that should be obvious too, as the main thing for me that goes wrong tbh.

Well at least I'm glad I'm not alone in this.

Quote from: Batch on February 09, 2016, 01:12:23 AM

Everything I do comes with reason.

No one has 1UPed you before?

I wouldn't be putting effort into anything if I felt like it meant nothing.

I might not see anything much in the way of meaningful fullfillment for myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it for other people. Or at the very least, do what I'm able to manage to make an effort on their behalf.

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM

I wouldn't be putting effort into anything if I felt like it meant nothing.

I might not see anything much in the way of meaningful fullfillment for myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it for other people. Or at the very least, do what I'm able to manage to make an effort on their behalf.

Well each time I try I keep on getting proved wrong at everything and I have nothing to back it up.

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 01:55:34 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM

I wouldn't be putting effort into anything if I felt like it meant nothing.

I might not see anything much in the way of meaningful fullfillment for myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it for other people. Or at the very least, do what I'm able to manage to make an effort on their behalf.

Well each time I try I keep on getting proved wrong at everything and I have nothing to back it up.

Proved wrong how? Give some context here.

Okay. Let's just take Sep7agon as an example since I'm on here right now. I'm trying to change myself for the better in terms to redeem myself after Star Wars Episode 7 spoilers. Now I know people would be skeptical, but one thing that makes it hard is when people tell me that I am wrong and I'm going to crack again, and I've been trying really hard not to give them what they want so far, I keep getting told that the cycle is just gonna repeat and that I'm going to lose, and the moment I try to counter argue and defend my side of things, I either get a slap on the wrist by the staff or I have people continue giving me the same shit saying that I'm wrong and I'm gonna crack up and go full retard again. "Oh sure Deci, of course you'll change. Right, you said that for like the 10th million time now, but you're still wrong"

This wasn't the best example, but its much worse in other situations regarding the issue, my problem is I have no real way to counter argue, hence I lose by default, and that in return makes me feel like a failure. I haven't won one argument in my life about anything, I have always been in the wrong and I've been told throughout my life that I am wrong and never right about anything, even at the age of 6.

And say when I am right about something, and it somehow bites people in the ass later, I get berated for it. At least that's how it was in the late 90s for me.

Did this make sense?

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 02:07:47 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 01:55:34 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM

I wouldn't be putting effort into anything if I felt like it meant nothing.

I might not see anything much in the way of meaningful fullfillment for myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it for other people. Or at the very least, do what I'm able to manage to make an effort on their behalf.

Well each time I try I keep on getting proved wrong at everything and I have nothing to back it up.

Proved wrong how? Give some context here.

Okay. Let's just take Sep7agon as an example since I'm on here right now. I'm trying to change myself for the better in terms to redeem myself after Star Wars Episode 7 spoilers. Now I know people would be skeptical, but one thing that makes it hard is when people tell me that I am wrong and I'm going to crack again, and I've been trying really hard not to give them what they want so far, I keep getting told that the cycle is just gonna repeat and that I'm going to lose, and the moment I try to counter argue and defend my side of things, I either get a slap on the wrist by the staff or I have people continue giving me the same shit saying that I'm wrong and I'm gonna crack up and go full retard again. "Oh sure Deci, of course you'll change. Right, you said that for like the 10th million time now, but you're still wrong"

This wasn't the best example, but its much worse in other situations regarding the issue, my problem is I have no real way to counter argue, hence I lose by default, and that in return makes me feel like a failure. I haven't won one argument in my life about anything, I have always been in the wrong and I've been told throughout my life that I am wrong and never right about anything, even at the age of 6.

And say when I am right about something, and it somehow bites people in the ass later, I get berated for it. At least that's how it was in the late 90s for me.

Did this make sense?

Yes and no. Sep7agon is a poor example because it doesn't matter. Any discourse you have on the internet doesn't mean fuck all unless it gets really physically personal to the point that somebody's life is affected, like some creep stalking somebody on their facebook or something and getting them fired over some comments made.

Or vice versa. Somebody affects your life positively. An argument and banter means nothing.

I was asking about a meaningful example. Something grounded in real life and not attached to the computer screen.

Quote from: BaconShelf on February 09, 2016, 02:21:32 AM

Nope. If something is something I feel is a waste of my time, I won't do it.

What if you don't know that it will waste you time?

Quote from: Batch on February 09, 2016, 01:23:02 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 01:20:16 AM

Quote from: ❤Midna👌👌😂😂 on February 09, 2016, 12:57:02 AM

I get that a fair bit, but normally it's when I've decided to give up on doing something when whatever I hoped to accomplish was literally just around the corner.

Nowadays it's like I plan my day and try to account for as many situations as possible, and then get caught by surprise by something unexpected that should be obvious too, as the main thing for me that goes wrong tbh.

Well at least I'm glad I'm not alone in this.

Quote from: Batch on February 09, 2016, 01:12:23 AM

Everything I do comes with reason.

No one has 1UPed you before?

Generally if I know someone is wasting my time I wont help them. Any place where I get duped are customers, but I just shake off their ignorance and get on with my life.

What's your secret?

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 02:25:57 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 02:16:33 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 02:07:47 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:59:00 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on February 09, 2016, 01:55:34 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 09, 2016, 01:38:09 AM

I wouldn't be putting effort into anything if I felt like it meant nothing.

I might not see anything much in the way of meaningful fullfillment for myself, but that doesn't mean that I can't see it for other people. Or at the very least, do what I'm able to manage to make an effort on their behalf.

Well each time I try I keep on getting proved wrong at everything and I have nothing to back it up.

Proved wrong how? Give some context here.

Okay. Let's just take Sep7agon as an example since I'm on here right now. I'm trying to change myself for the better in terms to redeem myself after Star Wars Episode 7 spoilers. Now I know people would be skeptical, but one thing that makes it hard is when people tell me that I am wrong and I'm going to crack again, and I've been trying really hard not to give them what they want so far, I keep getting told that the cycle is just gonna repeat and that I'm going to lose, and the moment I try to counter argue and defend my side of things, I either get a slap on the wrist by the staff or I have people continue giving me the same shit saying that I'm wrong and I'm gonna crack up and go full retard again. "Oh sure Deci, of course you'll change. Right, you said that for like the 10th million time now, but you're still wrong"

This wasn't the best example, but its much worse in other situations regarding the issue, my problem is I have no real way to counter argue, hence I lose by default, and that in return makes me feel like a failure. I haven't won one argument in my life about anything, I have always been in the wrong and I've been told throughout my life that I am wrong and never right about anything, even at the age of 6.

And say when I am right about something, and it somehow bites people in the ass later, I get berated for it. At least that's how it was in the late 90s for me.

Did this make sense?

Yes and no. Sep7agon is a poor example because it doesn't matter. Any discourse you have on the internet doesn't mean fuck all unless it gets really physically personal to the point that somebody's life is affected, like some creep stalking somebody on their facebook or something and getting them fired over some comments made.

Or vice versa. Somebody affects your life positively. An argument and banter means nothing.

I was asking about a meaningful example. Something grounded in real life and not attached to the computer screen.

Okay, I wasn't going to bring a family member into this, but since it recently happened and I argued and lost that argument, by getting interrupted constantly, losing my train of thought, here is how it all went down.

My brother-in-law and I started talking about accents. His argument is that everyone from California speaks the English language correctly and the way everyone else speaks it, even the Brits, is completely wrong. I told him you can't just jump to that conclusion because this isn't about proper grammar anymore, its about accents of one language and it varies, I tired telling him what constitutes that the way Californians speak is 100% the right way meaning everyone else is wrong. My point is that no one is wrong or right and its how they are raised, but he kept sticking to his point repeating what he already said, and I'm wrong if I think otherwise.

And that's fucking stupid because there is no right or wrong with accents, its how you were born and raised, and telling someone that they are wrong for speaking British English if they are born and raised there is fucking insulting and insensitive.

So yeah, I didn't win this argument at all tonight.

Does this count? This happened in real life, in the fucking living room, about 4 hours ago.

Well you know otherwise don't you? You know enough about accents and how they work to have a decent enough grasp to understand that they're trivial and there's no right accent to have. You just have it.

So you haven't been proven wrong whatsoever. There's only so far anybody can feasibly say something and prove that something is right. Then, it's up to the second party to take their head out of their fucking ass and listen.

Take Dinosaurs and some instances of Christians. You could present them with all the evidence we have about dinosaurs and explain to them that they didn't walk the earth with humans, they actually existed so many billions of years ago, and so on.

And they won't listen. At that point, you actually have no options left to take to get your point across.

But that isn't the main point here. Just a part of it. You know where you stand and you know what you know. Past that, there's nothing else you can really do.

Life is full of fuckwits that will tell you you're wrong no matter how hard you try. No matter how good you are. There will always be somebody at your back saying that you're wrong. Think about it. Take any person on the planet, especially somebody of note who's well known or famous, and sure as shit, there will be a crowd of people opposed to them.

Whether or not they're actually wrong is irrelevant. What matters is that you can't get away from people trying to dump their perspective down your throat not matter how well your play yourself off as. Hell, you take the respectful road and keep it civil? You're a goody two shoes. Get upset? You're an overreacting asshole.

You can't win. You can't please everybody.

And so that leaves only one option. Trust in yourself. You know what you know, based off facts and your particular understanding of certain subjects you're versed in. You like what you like, because that's you. You do what you do, because that's you.

The people who agree or like you for it are welcome additions. The people who don't? They're not relevant. Brush them aside and continue on. Just remember though. Don't let your own head get stuck up your ass. It's a balancing act. Sometimes it pays to listen to people and realize that you don't know everything. Nothing wrong with not knowing something.

A rule of thumb with me is never to engage in discussion around contraversy in public with people unless I am directly asked for my opinion. Even family or friends. If they want to know what I'm thinking then they can ask me. Otherwise, I let them talk amongst themselves.

The only time I ever bother getting into an argument is if something is getting too heavy and the respective parties are missing a detail. But even then, I don't pursue it. Arguing with walls who don't want to listen is a pointless endevour and a waste of my time.

So in some way, you're right, if only to a degree. Arguing with people who just want to be argumentative for the sake of it is a waste of time. And so, all you have to do is not bother. Don't play the stupid games that people play. I know I don't.

Obligatory blog post, I can't help it right now.

For me, I'll say always often recently. Anything and everything I usually try to do just ends up going to waste somehow. Its even worse if I'm talking with family or other people irl. Midway through my sentence I get interrupted by someone either by having the subject changed or having the subject changed and directed to someone else in the room. In my head I begin thinking "did I just waste my fucking time again?"

It is so fucking infuriating you just want to be a total dick to them and pull off the same shit, oh but when I do that its considered rude. Such hypocrites.

Even if I make a thread online or talk about it irl about tech and how to do something involving tech. There is nothing worse than some shithead telling me its useless information. Its like bitch, you learn to crawl before you walk, not the other way around. Me explaining the beginning on what to do will help you because if I just get to the end you'll be left confused. And say I do skip to the end for the sake of argument.

"huh? what?"



Wasted effort! Even on the internet, back on B.old I used to make more and more constructive threads and it went fine, now, on this B.old clone, I'm either sperging out or its automatically considered shitposting. What constitutes actual shitposting anymore? Its getting confusing? Hell, what even constitutes sperging? Does writing paragraphs of something mean that you are sperging?

Either the world around me is crumbling as humanity plummets deeper and deeper into technology, disregarding when actual quality material exists or I've just completely lost my touch with human beings all together and became the next Sheldon Cooper, minus the really high IQ that he has.

Internet, Sep7agon, what I'm trying to say is, is there anymore incentive left to actually try at something? Such as decency itself? Or is that dead?

Because I am beginning to believe its dead. Each day I feel more inadequate than the last. There is always someone that is going to 1UP you no matter what you do, at least that is the case for me, either that or its all at random luck and it just so happens to be that I'm really fucking unlucky.

So, assuming you read all of that, do you ever feel like no matter what you try, it eventually leads to an wasted effort?

Since this is predictable as clockwork, go ahead and skip all this and just post TL;DR because I already know that's more than likely going to be the first post. That or I get no replies. The interactions in real life translate online so damn well. I get it both ways. I mean if it was just this place sure I get that I'm infamous, but its everywhere.

This whole damn thread