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How many on you fuckers actually exercise?

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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.

It's stupid because it's pointless, it does nothing but make you look "better".
In any situation where you would need body conditioning you'd be fucked.
Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 05:32:29 PM by The Waifu God


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.

At your edit:
No one accidently gets 7% body fat while maintaining muscle mass.  They obviously have a reason so it's not pointless for them.  Body building builds character and improves one mentally as well as physically.
Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 05:39:12 PM by Sly Instinct


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.
Because you can't.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.
Because you can't.
Sorry, let me use logic again.
>less than 10% bf
>Does nothing for you
>In a survival situation, your body will eat almost exclusively you muscle
>Losing muscle in a survival situation is damning
>Thus we can conclude that low bf% does not help in any way and can actually hurt you


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.
Because you can't.
Sorry, let me use logic again.
>less than 10% bf
>Does nothing for you
>In a survival situation, your body will eat almost exclusively you muscle
>Losing muscle in a survival situation is damning
>Thus we can conclude that low bf% does not help in any way and can actually hurt you
There you go changing the subject again.  You still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.
Because you can't.
Sorry, let me use logic again.
>less than 10% bf
>Does nothing for you
>In a survival situation, your body will eat almost exclusively you muscle
>Losing muscle in a survival situation is damning
>Thus we can conclude that low bf% does not help in any way and can actually hurt you
There you go changing the subject again.  You still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.
I never changed the subject you ponce.
This has been my argument from the fucking beginning.
It's retarded to have single digit bf because you're only adding risk to yourself.

I'm sorry you're too dense to understand that.


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Almost always, with moderation
check the easy access to sloot poosay when under 12%



even though jeff and crew act like full on homos
What the fuck is with the guy on the right's waist?


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check the easy access to sloot poosay when under 12%



even though jeff and crew act like full on homos
What the fuck is with the guy on the right's waist?
No bodyfat.


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check the easy access to sloot poosay when under 12%



even though jeff and crew act like full on homos
What the fuck is with the guy on the right's waist?
No bodyfat.
That just looks horrible.


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check the easy access to sloot poosay when under 12%



even though jeff and crew act like full on homos
What the fuck is with the guy on the right's waist?
No bodyfat.
That just looks horrible.
Exactly.


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No one is healthy starving you fucking dolt.  Health isn't measured on how long you can starve.  Health is defined as being free from illness or injury.  Doctors don't do check ups to see how long you can survive without eating.  I do not know why you are basing health on the potential of losing muscle in a random scenario.

You said it was unhealthy to maintain a low bf%.  I said with proper nutrients and exercise, it was.  I was never debating whether starving someone was healthy or not.

Now, do you or do you not have any studies or backed up evidence that with proper nutrients (not starving) and exercise, 6-9% bf is unsustainable?
There is no purpose to have anything lower than 12% bf in any situation, you're only adding extra risk to yourself. Making it an unhealthy choice.
Quit changing the subject.  We're not arguing purpose, we're discussing sustainability in a controlled enviroment.  Still waiting for one credibile study.
You don't need a credible study to realize that you're a fucking idiot to have less than 12% body fat.
How's it stupid, because you don't want it or can't get it?  You haven't been able to prove it's unhealthy besides pointlessly repeating yourself, so it just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your inability/inferiority.
It's amazing how butthurt you are at the fact that I'm pointing out that having extremely low bf% is vain and dangerous is many situations.
Not butthurt, simply pointing out you still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.  Not extremely low like below 5%, but 6-9%.
Because I don't need to.
It's simple logic.
Because you can't.
Sorry, let me use logic again.
>less than 10% bf
>Does nothing for you
>In a survival situation, your body will eat almost exclusively you muscle
>Losing muscle in a survival situation is damning
>Thus we can conclude that low bf% does not help in any way and can actually hurt you
There you go changing the subject again.  You still haven't been able to provide one source supporting the claim 6-9%bf is unsustainable.
I never changed the subject you ponce.
This has been my argument from the fucking beginning.
It's retarded to have single digit bf because you're only adding risk to yourself.

I'm sorry you're too dense to understand that.
You said it was unsustainable, which I asked for a source.  You still refuse and you're trying say you only thought it was stupid.

You only think it's a risk because of some random ass chance the person will be throw into some survival mode scenario.  How many people in America randomly getting abducted and throw in the wilderness or in-prisoned without food?  Most don't.  Do you live in some state of perpetuating fear?


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check the easy access to sloot poosay when under 12%



even though jeff and crew act like full on homos
What the fuck is with the guy on the right's waist?
No bodyfat.
The guy on the right has more body fat than the guy on the left.  It's more his body type and the way he built muscle that makes it look weird.


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You said it was unsustainable, which I asked for a source.  You still refuse and you're trying say you only thought it was stupid.

You only think it's a risk because of some random ass chance the person will be throw into some survival mode scenario.  How many people in America randomly getting abducted and throw in the wilderness or in-prisoned without food?  Most don't.  Do you live in some state of perpetuating fear?
Quote me.
Do you live in some state of mind where you think that doing something for no good reason, and only adding risk to yourself is okay?
The reason most people actually want muscle and work out is for it's original purpose in evolution, to help keep you alive. The moment you take it too far and actually hurt your chances for survival is when you're officially an idiot.


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You said it was unsustainable, which I asked for a source.  You still refuse and you're trying say you only thought it was stupid.

You only think it's a risk because of some random ass chance the person will be throw into some survival mode scenario.  How many people in America randomly getting abducted and throw in the wilderness or in-prisoned without food?  Most don't.  Do you live in some state of perpetuating fear?
Quote me.
Do you live in some state of mind where you think that doing something for no good reason, and only adding risk to yourself is okay?
The reason most people actually want muscle and work out is for it's original purpose in evolution, to help keep you alive. The moment you take it too far and actually hurt your chances for survival is when you're officially an idiot.

He thinks single digit bodyfat% is healthy.
It's obvious he's a retard.

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Below 5 percent may be, but show me evidence that with proper exercise and nutritition a BF% between 6-9% is unhealthy.  I'll be waiting.

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Simple enough. In any emergency situation where you can't get enough nutrition you're going to be losing mass like a motherfucker.
In this case it's going to be your muscles instead of bf.

You didn't explicitly use the word sustainable, but your whole argument revolves around on the possibility the person will be put in situation they starve to lose muscle, which is unreasonable.

Everything you do in life has a risk.  With proper nutrient intake and exercise there is little to no risk.  Pretty sure body builders are far more likely to survive than you.  They are stronger, have higher endurance, and higher sex appeal than you.  Body building is more than physical too.  They are mentally stronger as well.
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You didn't explicitly use the word sustainable, but your whole argument revolves around on the possibility the person will be put in situation they starve to lose muscle, which is unreasonable.

Everything you do in life has a risk.  With proper nutrient intake and exercise there is little to no risk.  Pretty sure body builders are far more likely to survive than you.  They are stronger, have higher endurance, and higher sex appeal than you.  Body building is more than physical too.  They are mentally stronger as well.
lmao
Everything you just said is wrong and ignores everything I've said.

Hold on, editing to break this down

You didn't explicitly use the word sustainable, but your whole argument revolves around on the possibility the person will be put in situation they starve to lose muscle, which is unreasonable.
How is that unreasonable? Literally the reason anyone with a brain wants to gain muscle in the first place is to perform in difficult situations. Most of these situations require you to expend energy, energy comes from body mass. When the majority of your expendable body mass is muscle you're going to lose muscle.

If you're just getting muscles to show you have them, you're an idiot. Full stop.
With proper nutrient intake and exercise there is little to no risk.  Pretty sure body builders are far more likely to survive than you.  They are stronger, have higher endurance, and higher sex appeal than you.  Body building is more than physical too.  They are mentally stronger as well.
But when the nutrients go away you're risking everything.
>Higher endurance
http://www.lifefitness.com/blog/posts/muscle-strength-vs-muscle-endurance.html
>Higher sex appeal
http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_600/617_what-women-think-about-bodybuilders.html
>Mentally stronger
Not even close. Put a body builder into ranger training.
They'll want out so fucking fast you wouldn't even believe.

Also,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10404822/Is-body-building-bad-for-soldiers-health.html
Body building is bad for anyone who actually needs to survive.
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You didn't explicitly use the word sustainable, but your whole argument revolves around on the possibility the person will be put in situation they starve to lose muscle, which is unreasonable.
How is that unreasonable? Literally the reason anyone with a brain wants to gain muscle in the first place is to perform in difficult situations.
This is simply flawed.

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Most of these situations require you to expend energy, energy comes from body mass. When the majority of your expendable body mass is muscle you're going to lose muscle.
Except when you continuously feed your body nutrients to make that energy.

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If you're just getting muscles to show you have them, you're an idiot. Full stop.
  Here's you trying to rationalize your inferiority again.

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But when the nutrients go away you're risking everything.
In a first world country you don't have to worry about stores magically disappearing.

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>Higher endurance
http://www.lifefitness.com/blog/posts/muscle-strength-vs-muscle-endurance.html
Doesn't disprove my point.  An amateur body builder is still stronger and better conditioned than you.  If you disagree you're free to show off your abilities to the contrary.

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>Higher sex appeal
http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_600/617_what-women-think-about-bodybuilders.html
Random blog post talking about bulky body builders.  P90X guys are also body builders.

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>Mentally stronger
Not even close. Put a body builder into ranger training.
They'll want out so fucking fast you wouldn't even believe.
I was mainly referring in relation to you but also the average person.  Body building builds confidence, requires consistency, persistence, and sacrifices to make substantial progress.  Funny you have to resort to using the "toughest combat course in the world" as your argument.  I wasn't even trying to say a body builder can do anything, just that to get in great shape takes certain traits that a lot of people lack (ex. most people failing their new years resolution to go to the gym in a month or eat healthy).

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Also,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10404822/Is-body-building-bad-for-soldiers-health.html
Body building is bad for anyone who actually needs to survive.
Did you even read the article?  It's about soldiers taking steroids and contraband and over exerting themselves.  Nothing about being too in shape.


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lmao
you're either trolling or hopelessly disillusioned.


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lmao
you're either trolling or hopelessly disillusioned.
Looks like your attempt at trolling failed and now you gotta resort to calling me being a troll.  Better luck next time Skippy, and check your sources :^)


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lmao
you're either trolling or hopelessly disillusioned.
Looks like your attempt at trolling failed and now you gotta resort to calling me being a troll.  Better luck next time Skippy, and check your sources :^)
>Being this butthurt because I realized you were trolling
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I got rekt, SO I'm resorting to calling people names because that totally proves I'm smarter. Even though my argument has been split in two and my point is pretty much invalid, I still think I won the argument.

FTFY


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I got rekt, SO I'm resorting to calling people names because that totally proves I'm smarter. Even though my argument has been split in two and my point is pretty much invalid, I still think I won the argument.

FTFY
Also butthurt.


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lmao
you're either trolling or hopelessly disillusioned.
Looks like your attempt at trolling failed and now you gotta resort to calling me being a troll.  Better luck next time Skippy, and check your sources :^)
>Being this butthurt because I realized you were trolling
lmao
>He doesn't check his sources


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lmao
you're either trolling or hopelessly disillusioned.
Looks like your attempt at trolling failed and now you gotta resort to calling me being a troll.  Better luck next time Skippy, and check your sources :^)
>Being this butthurt because I realized you were trolling
lmao
>He doesn't check his sources

>He's butthurt and posting 3DPD


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I got rekt, SO I'm resorting to calling people names because that totally proves I'm smarter. Even though my argument has been split in two and my point is pretty much invalid, I still think I won the argument.

FTFY
Also butthurt.
^ all that damage control because you were proven wrong. you're a joke dude.


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I got rekt, SO I'm resorting to calling people names because that totally proves I'm smarter. Even though my argument has been split in two and my point is pretty much invalid, I still think I won the argument.

FTFY
Also butthurt.
^ all that damage control because you were proven wrong. you're a joke dude.
All this butthurt because you're a poser


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Spoiler
That shit isn't healthy yo'
Yeah it is cuzzz

heart rate is lower than most people
Big lung capacity
Less fat than most people
Muscles have power to push/pull hundreds of pounds multiple times
Denser bones
Gets more and better nutrients than 99% of people(through diet/supplements/vitamins)
Plus he's fookin aestheticccc
but staying at bodybuilder contest levels of (nearly nonexistent) body fat for extended periods of time is bad.
Only really low levels (less than 3-5% I believe).
4% is right around where that guy is.
No he's not, but he's definitely single digits.

I just noticed kinder offered his pic^^^
10-12% looks the most natural and attractive.


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I got rekt, SO I'm resorting to calling people names because that totally proves I'm smarter. Even though my argument has been split in two and my point is pretty much invalid, I still think I won the argument.

FTFY
Also butthurt.
^ all that damage control because you were proven wrong. you're a joke dude.
All this butthurt because you're a poser
still proving my point dude. keep calling me names, go ahead, prove you're the smartest person here by insulting me more.