Quote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 09, 2015, 11:39:56 AMIf a lion killed me, nobody would say it was morally wrong of the lionCorrect.It would be morally right.
If a lion killed me, nobody would say it was morally wrong of the lion
However, the implications for humans are different lol
Why don'cha fill me in, then?
Is that an insult or were you making a point?
Except that's not how logic works dumbassYou don't go from killing for food to survive to homicide and cannablism
Those who eat meat should die?Let's kill off almost all animals on the planet then
Quote from: Cindo on December 09, 2015, 12:58:23 PMWhy don'cha fill me in, then?Well, let me just say first that it doesn't make sense for a champion of social justice such as yourself to say something like "veganism is stupid."Why is veganism stupid?Why is the boycotting of the meat & dairy industry stupid?Why is accounting for the endless suffering of sentient creatures stupid?Why is recognizing the fact that cows, chickens, and pigs are capable of feeling pain stupid?Why is making an exerted effort in stopping that pain and suffering stupid?Why is wanting to stop this stupid?Why is making healthier diet choices stupid?Why is recognizing that you don't actually need animal products to survive stupid?Why is being ethical stupid?You may not nominally support the torture and cruel treatment of animals, but by consuming meat & dairy products, you are financially supporting the industry. Not only does nobody need meat--we have to kill innocent life forms to get it. There is no excuse, and there is no justification. If you consume animal products, you're a scumbag.
Or you couldY'knowBuy from local farms that treat their animals well like I said in my original post.
Eugh, Cindy is saying things that I say.I'm going to be violently ill.
Quote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 09, 2015, 01:10:08 PMIs that an insult or were you making a point?An insult, but I really truthfully would probably applaud you getting mauled to death by a lion. Just saying.QuoteExcept that's not how logic works dumbassYou don't go from killing for food to survive to homicide and cannablismYou don't need animal products to survive, though. At all.Meat IS homicide. Meat IS cannibalism. In the sense that we're all animals eating each other.QuoteThose who eat meat should die?Let's kill off almost all animals on the planet thenWhat a shit comparison.Animals have no choice. They're too stupid to reason.Humans DO have the choice. We can make right choices and wrong choices.Veganism is the right choice.
I mean by definition it's not homicide, nor is it cannabalism.
Quote from: Cindo on December 09, 2015, 01:15:24 PMOr you couldY'knowBuy from local farms that treat their animals well like I said in my original post.No such thing as "treating animals well" in a farm. Have you BEEN to a local farm?
Quote from: Tyger on December 09, 2015, 01:18:20 PMI mean by definition it's not homicide, nor is it cannabalism. If "homicide" can be reduced to "kill", and "cannibalism" can be reduced to "organisms eating each other", then yes, I can use those terms.
Ya know until they eat them
tfw really wanna be vegan but really wanna eat these taquitos.Guess I'll just wait for that lab made chicken
Quote from: Verbatim on December 09, 2015, 01:19:14 PMQuote from: Tyger on December 09, 2015, 01:18:20 PMI mean by definition it's not homicide, nor is it cannabalism. If "homicide" can be reduced to "kill", and "cannibalism" can be reduced to "organisms eating each other", then yes, I can use those terms. but they can't. You can't just arbitrarily change the definitions of words lol arent you like an English major or something?
Bruh, I spent a week at a farmI have friends that own farmsI've ridden horses on farms for Christ's sake
Quote from: Tyger on December 09, 2015, 01:20:30 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 09, 2015, 01:19:14 PMQuote from: Tyger on December 09, 2015, 01:18:20 PMI mean by definition it's not homicide, nor is it cannabalism. If "homicide" can be reduced to "kill", and "cannibalism" can be reduced to "organisms eating each other", then yes, I can use those terms. but they can't. You can't just arbitrarily change the definitions of words lol arent you like an English major or something?I used to be. And yes, ask any English professor--you actually CAN arbitrarily change definitions of words to help make your point.It's pretty basic shit, actually, and everybody does it.Do you know what a "metaphor" is?Most people learn that by second grade.So yeah, you're fucking wrong.
you're a metaphorThat means a fucking faggot
You weren't using metaphors
So what you're saying is that I should be able to enslave women for their breastmilk--and it's okay, as long as I "treat them well".Okay.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 09, 2015, 01:20:09 PMSo what you're saying is that I should be able to enslave women for their breastmilk--and it's okay, as long as I "treat them well".Okay.Cows, pigs, chickens, and so on are not sapientSo that's really a false equivalency, lad
Are you no longer an English major because you flunked out for misusing words?
Quote from: Cindo on December 09, 2015, 01:30:20 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 09, 2015, 01:20:09 PMSo what you're saying is that I should be able to enslave women for their breastmilk--and it's okay, as long as I "treat them well".Okay.Cows, pigs, chickens, and so on are not sapientSo that's really a false equivalency, ladExplain to me why that matters.Hint: It doesn't.
Because a fuckin' cow doesn't need autonomous rightsBessie isn't gonna get her feelings hurt if she doesn't have the right to vote
Quote from: Tyger on December 09, 2015, 01:27:46 PMAre you no longer an English major because you flunked out for misusing words?Mad because you don't know basic literary techniques."DURR YOU CAN'T CHANGE A WORDS MEANING TO MAKE A POINT!!!!"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech"EVEN THOUGH YOU TOTALLY CAN AND I'M A COMPLETE RETARD"Seems like YOU might have failed English class.
Quote from: Cindo on December 09, 2015, 01:35:28 PMBecause a fuckin' cow doesn't need autonomous rightsBessie isn't gonna get her feelings hurt if she doesn't have the right to voteBessie can still feel pain--and therefore probably deserves the right NOT to have it inflicted on her by people who want to fucking eat her. You fucking psychotic fuck.Babies aren't sapient, either. Pigs are smarter than babies. Would you be all right with killing and eating babies?I don't think you would. I really really don't think you would be.