Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:20:37 PM>Kill all humansHow do you expect that to be taken?"Antinatalism is a philosophical position that assigns a negative value to birth, standing in opposition to natalism. It has been advanced by figures such as Arthur Schopenhauer, Emil Cioran, Peter Wessel Zapffe and David Benatar."Where do you get "kill all humans" out of this?
>Kill all humansHow do you expect that to be taken?
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 08:18:58 PMCongrats, you beat them, choosing #3. Albeit not physically eradicating them to mushy pulp, much to Psy's discontent, you went into conflict and beat your enemy.I thought you meant physically.Knowing that, are you going to answer the question, now?Does might make right?And if it doesn't make right, what right do YOU have in supporting the meat & dairy industry?
Congrats, you beat them, choosing #3. Albeit not physically eradicating them to mushy pulp, much to Psy's discontent, you went into conflict and beat your enemy.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 08, 2015, 08:21:50 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 08:18:58 PMCongrats, you beat them, choosing #3. Albeit not physically eradicating them to mushy pulp, much to Psy's discontent, you went into conflict and beat your enemy.I thought you meant physically.Knowing that, are you going to answer the question, now?Does might make right?And if it doesn't make right, what right do YOU have in supporting the meat & dairy industry?Define right.
From the example that was posed. Try reading more into what the response is to before quoting wikipedia.
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:25:06 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 08, 2015, 08:21:50 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 08:18:58 PMCongrats, you beat them, choosing #3. Albeit not physically eradicating them to mushy pulp, much to Psy's discontent, you went into conflict and beat your enemy.I thought you meant physically.Knowing that, are you going to answer the question, now?Does might make right?And if it doesn't make right, what right do YOU have in supporting the meat & dairy industry?Define right.Well, I used it in two ways."Might doesn't make right.""Right" meaning ethical."What right do you have to support the meat & dairy industry?"Based on the fact that physical strength doesn't give you moral priority, what logical rationale is there to support the meat & dairy industry?
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:24:03 PMFrom the example that was posed. Try reading more into what the response is to before quoting wikipedia.I read the example he posed.He isn't proposing that we kill anyone.He proposed forced sterilizations--not necessarily something I agree with--but that's still nowhere near murder.
Extinction is killing off a species, that is what you're doing. Ensuring the species as a whole dies without consent.
I find it within the realm of ethically/morally acceptable to kill other animals for products when following certain standards.What is right to one person may be different to another, at this base level, whoever succeeds and beats their rivals is right in society. At a more complicated theoretical level, right might be objective, but people are not anywhere close to finding such a conclusive answer today.
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:41:33 PMI find it within the realm of ethically/morally acceptable to kill other animals for products when following certain standards.What is right to one person may be different to another, at this base level, whoever succeeds and beats their rivals is right in society. At a more complicated theoretical level, right might be objective, but people are not anywhere close to finding such a conclusive answer today.I wager I'm closer than you are.
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:42:41 PMExtinction is killing off a species, that is what you're doing. Ensuring the species as a whole dies without consent.Wrong. Extinction is when the last member of a species dies. Doesn't have to be killed. Species can die out on their own without being hunted by a predator species. It happens. And that's what should happen with us.Trying to brand people who don't have kids as murderers is a pretty lame smear tactic.And again--with the consent thing, I don't think forced sterilizations would be the most ethical way of going about it.
That's real nice hon.
By that logic if I castrated every Tiger in the world, I wouldn't be responsible for killing off the species and would've done nothing wrong. WWF can't do shit.
Then why in he hell are you arguing in support of him when that's specifically what I was referring to when talking with him?
Verby
Quote from: Essessen on December 09, 2015, 12:07:15 AMThat's real nice hon.WAY closer.
Quote from: Essessen on December 08, 2015, 11:42:41 PMBy that logic if I castrated every Tiger in the world, I wouldn't be responsible for killing off the species and would've done nothing wrong. WWF can't do shit.You'd be responsible for their extinction.But you didn't kill any of them.
QuoteThen why in he hell are you arguing in support of him when that's specifically what I was referring to when talking with him?Because there's nothing actually wrong with what he's saying--I'd just prefer a different method.
VerbySerious thought, so don't call me a retardIf life is just gonna keep being rather cruel for animals and such if humanity hypothetically forced itself to go extinctWould it not be more productive in an anti-natalists mentality to make contributions towards technology, weaponry, and science so that, in the future, humans can just create a weapon that destroys all life on the planet?
But you just said nobody can look objectively at their life?
>giving anti-natalism intellectual consideration and respectAs a staunch believer in Anthropocentrism I find this laughable.
I tried to go vegan fairly recently by starting off as a pescatarian but my endeavor crashed harder than the rock that made the chicxulub crater.
>tfw no bug protein bars yet
Quote from: Desty has joined on December 09, 2015, 10:09:00 AM>tfw no bug protein bars yet>tfw they don't tell you about all the bugs that end up in food>Bug protein bars probably secretly exist already.webm
STEAK, LIARAI THINK ABOUT WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH STEAKI FUCKING LOVE STEAK
Meat is healthy and there is literally nothing morally wrong with killing other animals for food
Your religion will never grow and is completely irrelevant. I suggest you guys drop the subject.
You praise death like people praise god. It's more like Buddhism though, but not really.
Take a look at Eliab. He's like one of these white Europeans that just converted to Islam with you being the imam. He follows your every word and almost reveres you. It's creepy.
This gives you a huge sense of purpose. You consider it your duty to spread the word and convert everybody.
It's something that may have been a philosophy at one point in time, but has taken role of religion in the absence of one on the lives of depressed young individuals such as yourself.