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antinatalism is a pretty goofy ideal tbh


 
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Look, this mindset you guys have is poisonous. We're at where we're at because we keep going. We have comfort we have now we didn't have back a thousand years ago, let alone further back.
Death is ultimate comfort. Natalism is holding us back.


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Because sapience is a pretty big step, evolutionarily.
Why does this step justify killing though?


 
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I would be against a race culling us for food because we have established rights for ourselves.
Animals establish rights for themselves all the time. Just because they're more primitive than us doesn't mean shit.


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Look, this mindset you guys have is poisonous. We're at where we're at because we keep going. We have comfort we have now we didn't have back a thousand years ago, let alone further back.
Death is ultimate comfort. Natalism is holding us back.
That's assuming an "ultimate comfort" is unachievable by other means.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Yes, yes it is.

What is? The difficulty of comprehension or my scenario being "out there"?
The majority of people thus far have believed that the most logical path in existence is to build a better future so that future generations will have more, have a better life, and be able to build an even better life for their next generation until bliss is reached.

The few that have come to the conclusion that the most logical path in existence is to end our existence end their existence and everyone else continues on with the previous conclusion.

All of people have never agreed on anything, it's a ginormous leap to assume they would, and especially about such an unpopular belief.


 
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Yes. Considering less than 1% of humans follow your ideology.

Yeah, because the human race is just an absolute exemplar of intellectual stimulation.

We're not exactly the "collective of greater intelligence" I suggested.

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Look, this mindset you guys have is poisonous. We're at where we're at because we keep going. We have comfort we have now we didn't have back a thousand years ago, let alone further back.

I'm sure you're familiar with the hedonic treadmill? Humans are always going to resort to their base level of dissatisfaction, regardless of how good their life is. We're literally designed to never become satisfied.


 
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are....are you retarded?


countless events have shown what under hunting does, it leads to overpopulation, and eventually, mass starvation due to lack of resources.


 
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Look, this mindset you guys have is poisonous. We're at where we're at because we keep going. We have comfort we have now we didn't have back a thousand years ago, let alone further back.
Death is ultimate comfort. Natalism is holding us back.
That's assuming an "ultimate comfort" is unachievable by other means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

Yeah.


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and don't say that's scientifically unsupported, because it has literally happened multiple times.


 
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I thought I made it pretty clear and addressed your point by saying it doesn't matter who is right, one's alive one's dead.

Do I need to say it a fourth time for you to get it?
Why doesn't it matter who is right.
Because you can't complain when you're fucking dead, and the other(s) that lived don't care/believe it was right. Ultimately, whether it was objectively right, if such a thing can even be said, is irrelevant to the outcome.


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this isn't even fun any more, it's just sad



I'm out.


 
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countless events have shown what under hunting does, it leads to overpopulation, and eventually, mass starvation due to lack of resources.
It only leads to overpopulation because we've "trained" deer to reproduce so often.

So you utterly failed to refute the point.

Good job, cunt.


 
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The majority of people thus far have believed that the most logical path in existence is to build a better future so that future generations will have more, have a better life, and be able to build an even better life for their next generation until bliss is reached.

Okay, but because of our stupid biology, we're designed to have a happiness ceiling. We're never going to live in eternal bliss -- it's not in our nature.

Fuck nature.

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All of people have never agreed on anything, it's a ginormous leap to assume they would, and especially about such an unpopular belief.

I think that's a somewhat ridiculous statement. Yeah, there are contrarians, but it's safe to assume that most people in this world don't believe that blacks are sub-human, for example.


 
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Yes, yes it is.

What is? The difficulty of comprehension or my scenario being "out there"?
The later.


 
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Because you can't complain when you're fucking dead, and the other(s) that lived don't care/believe it was right. Ultimately, whether it was objectively right, if such a thing can even be said, is irrelevant to the outcome.
Except it isn't, because there are more than two organisms on this planet. I can see a strong organism kill a weak organism and say, "That's wrong."

It's not that hard.


 
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We're never satisfied until we get perfection, which we'll never be able to achieve.

Amen, brother. I don't see the problem. If you recognise eternal bliss as the futile endeavor it is, how can you justify forcing others into this useless existence?

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And there are people far more intelligent than all of us. They all disagree with this ridiculous religion of yours.

Just because people are smarter than I, I'm supposed to bow down and let them think for me? Isn't that an appeal to... something?

Regardless, Galileo was smarter than anyone here, yet he believed in a God. Why don't you? He's smarter than you, surely.


 
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Just because people are smarter than I, I'm supposed to bow down and let them think for me? Isn't that an appeal to... something?
authority


 
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Gotcha.

I hope I get one of those "Logical Fallacy" calendars for Christmas this year.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Regardless, Galileo was smarter than anyone here, yet he believed in a God. Why don't you? He's smarter than you, surely.
But astronomy is a pseudoscience and we are far more enlightened than him.
I mean, he believed in God after all.


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Look, this mindset you guys have is poisonous. We're at where we're at because we keep going. We have comfort we have now we didn't have back a thousand years ago, let alone further back.
Death is ultimate comfort. Natalism is holding us back.
That's assuming an "ultimate comfort" is unachievable by other means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

Yeah.
Can you summarize the main points of it that you believe apply to promoting anti-natalism?


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
The majority of people thus far have believed that the most logical path in existence is to build a better future so that future generations will have more, have a better life, and be able to build an even better life for their next generation until bliss is reached.

Okay, but because of our stupid biology, we're designed to have a happiness ceiling. We're never going to live in eternal bliss -- it's not in our nature.

Fuck nature.
And that matters, because why? That can be edited once we reach the technology to do that if we keep moving forward, if the person wants eternal bliss for some reason. Personally, I think eternal happiness sounds horrible and I'd rather gut myself.

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All of people have never agreed on anything, it's a ginormous leap to assume they would, and especially about such an unpopular belief.

I think that's a somewhat ridiculous statement. Yeah, there are contrarians, but it's safe to assume that most people in this world don't believe that blacks are sub-human, for example.
You said most, congrats that means there will still be some, and if they were the only ones to survive, they would spread on because of it.


 
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But astronomy is a pseudoscience

You're a raving lunatic, tbh.

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and we are far more enlightened than him.

I'm far more enlightened than you, then.


 
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and we are far more enlightened than him.

I'm far more enlightened than you, then.
But you're not. If you were then you'd be a neo-nazi too.


 
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Can you summarize the main points of it that you believe apply to promoting anti-natalism?
a lot of people try to argue that anti-natalism is a bad idea because we've "come so far" as a species and if we just died off, no one would ever be able to experience the "awesome" shit that we'd have produced in the future

the trouble with this is that no matter how technologically advanced we get, we're always going to be dissatisfied
always

you see it today--we have all this cool shit--laptops, cellphones, fucking airplanes
and all we do is bitch about how it all doesn't work right--we take everything for granted

and that's what would happen if we had a way to live a perfect, harmless life
we would get bored

we're just sisyphus climbing up the hill that we'll never reach the top of--so the only solution is to just stop trying to roll this fucking boulder up the hill, because it's not accomplishing anything of value
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