well no, you see, because that was my point from the beginningyou were giving advice to jono saying "working out will get you laid and improve your life in general"all i said was "yeah but maybe it won't though, that's not guaranteed"
Your actual fun things require the same energy as that? You're playing video games or whatever, you can do that for hours without moving what kind of physical energy do you need??
The soreness is one thing but you're only sore because you haven't done it in a while, if you're consistently working out for a moderate amount of time you don't feel like you're dying when you do the same exercise.
As for the improvements, say you have a bad back because of posture, well doing exercises to improve your back strength will help to alleviate that. Say you were sore every time you stood up but did exercise for 10 - 20 minutes every couple days and it went away. Is that such a commitment?
i also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell you
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:34:29 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:31:00 PMQuote from: Eli on February 02, 2018, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:25:04 PMi'm $100K in debt because my college career didn't pan out the way i thought it would, but at least i have 20 extra years to slave away paying it all off because i'm just so darn healthy!!!no one is asking you to prolong your life, just realise that some people could conceivably want to for good reasons.It doesn't even have to be about prolonging it. Just improving quality of day to day life.explain how feeling sore for hours in the morning because i expended all my energy lifting or running the other day, and not having any remaining energy left to do actual fun things, is improving the quality of my day to day lifeI dunno, when I was running everyday, I felt refreshed and full of energy.
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:31:00 PMQuote from: Eli on February 02, 2018, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:25:04 PMi'm $100K in debt because my college career didn't pan out the way i thought it would, but at least i have 20 extra years to slave away paying it all off because i'm just so darn healthy!!!no one is asking you to prolong your life, just realise that some people could conceivably want to for good reasons.It doesn't even have to be about prolonging it. Just improving quality of day to day life.explain how feeling sore for hours in the morning because i expended all my energy lifting or running the other day, and not having any remaining energy left to do actual fun things, is improving the quality of my day to day life
Quote from: Eli on February 02, 2018, 01:28:38 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:25:04 PMi'm $100K in debt because my college career didn't pan out the way i thought it would, but at least i have 20 extra years to slave away paying it all off because i'm just so darn healthy!!!no one is asking you to prolong your life, just realise that some people could conceivably want to for good reasons.It doesn't even have to be about prolonging it. Just improving quality of day to day life.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:25:04 PMi'm $100K in debt because my college career didn't pan out the way i thought it would, but at least i have 20 extra years to slave away paying it all off because i'm just so darn healthy!!!no one is asking you to prolong your life, just realise that some people could conceivably want to for good reasons.
i'm $100K in debt because my college career didn't pan out the way i thought it would, but at least i have 20 extra years to slave away paying it all off because i'm just so darn healthy!!!
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket League
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTube
Sorry, but I think you misunderstood me in the first place, or I expressed myself wrong, so allow me to try again.He was asking about confidence boosting and I said (or meant, i'll go back and read it) that working out will increase your confidence tenfold, and a benefit is also the attraction bonus. That's not me trying to get him laid, it's a simple fact of how human minds work. Fat/obesity is inherently unattractive because it is unhealthy, and has a load of negative connotations with it (we could go into depth with this since it's not always been like that, but for the sake of this post let's not).Even if someone is zero interested in women but wants to feel better about life, I'd advise them to consider adding workouts to their lifestyle (along with other things).That's what I meant. Whether or not you disagree with it is another story entirely.
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:55:46 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTubeI stopped playing games competitively mostly a long time ago (like Halo 3 days after hitting Brigadier General on Lone Wolf) because I realized I was having far more stress than I was having fun on a game I enjoyed.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.they seem to have energy as well
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.they seem to have energy as wellbecause they aren't wasting their time at the gym
Well yeah, might is the better word. It might not work out for everyone because everyone is different. When I say workout, I don't mean just do some workouts and you'll feel better. It needs to be accompanied by a lifestyle change and a desire to improve if and only if you're sick of the life you are living. It's not a one goal solution because if it was, I doubt anyone would be depressed if they had the answer right in front of them. Honestly if you're depressed, what I'd recommend first is therapy and help on that front.
Quote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 02:00:25 PMWell yeah, might is the better word. It might not work out for everyone because everyone is different. When I say workout, I don't mean just do some workouts and you'll feel better. It needs to be accompanied by a lifestyle change and a desire to improve if and only if you're sick of the life you are living. It's not a one goal solution because if it was, I doubt anyone would be depressed if they had the answer right in front of them. Honestly if you're depressed, what I'd recommend first is therapy and help on that front.thank you, that's much more reasonablethat's why my first response was "so basically it's not worth it" though, because i honestly don't think any girl is worth changing your entire lifestyle over, but that's jono's prerogative if he wants to do that
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:55:46 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTubeyou have NEVER not wanted to play rocket leagueyou are in a constant state of wanting to play rocket league
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:59:33 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.they seem to have energy as wellbecause they aren't wasting their time at the gymYes but you JUST said- nvm, AAAAAAAAAA
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 02:00:52 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:55:46 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTubeyou have NEVER not wanted to play rocket leagueyou are in a constant state of wanting to play rocket leagueHow the hell did you get that from what I said?? And actually yeah, if my friends are up for it I'm generally always doen to play it unless I have an obligation or some other game I want to play more.
Quote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 02:05:40 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 02:00:52 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:55:46 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTubeyou have NEVER not wanted to play rocket leagueyou are in a constant state of wanting to play rocket leagueHow the hell did you get that from what I said?? And actually yeah, if my friends are up for it I'm generally always doen to play it unless I have an obligation or some other game I want to play more.if you don't understand the concept of not being in the mood for something (which is what you said)then that leads me to believe that you're always in the mood for it
Quote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 02:08:28 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 02:05:40 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 02:00:52 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:55:46 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:54:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 02, 2018, 01:54:07 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 02, 2018, 01:51:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 02, 2018, 01:50:36 PMi also play competitive games, if you don't understand why competitive games take energy, i'm not sure what to tell youthat you're being elitist and hating on the very things you're doing?yeahsorry buddy, I talk to people every day who are in platinum ranking shit like on League, and while I loathe that game, they're in far more competitive environments than you.I play Rocket League on a daily basis competitively. Like top 5% in the world tier in Solo Duel... Sure it might be stressful to play at times, especially in tournaments but I love coming home after a long day and playing it. Like fuck, competitively playing Rocket League is one of my favorite things to do.I also enjoy competitive Rocket LeagueWhat confuses me is the lack of energy or "mood" to play it. It's supposed to be fun, like that's supposed to be your free time fun activity, regardless if it's competitive or not. YouTubeyou have NEVER not wanted to play rocket leagueyou are in a constant state of wanting to play rocket leagueHow the hell did you get that from what I said?? And actually yeah, if my friends are up for it I'm generally always doen to play it unless I have an obligation or some other game I want to play more.if you don't understand the concept of not being in the mood for something (which is what you said)then that leads me to believe that you're always in the mood for itI meant more I wasn't sure why a long day would cause that lack of a mood to do it. Usually a long day is what drives me to play something like Rocket League. It's a contrast to work
Quote from: Jono on February 01, 2018, 08:30:02 PMQuote from: TBlocks on February 01, 2018, 05:11:05 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 01, 2018, 04:50:09 PMOn top of all of that and to your point about the first 2 points just being good things to develop in the first place, learning to listen is another great tool for general use. Paraphrasing is a good way to do this. Asking questions is another great way to get anyone talking. An interesting sort of thing is that people love talking about themselves. So asking questions (without sounding like you're interrogating them of course) is a great way to keep up conversation. "How was work today?" "Oh that's good / bad, that must've felt pretty ________. What did you say to them?" stuff like that. An advantage to this is that if she starts asking questions about you and stuff you're doing it's a decent indicator she might be interested.Also just in general listening is a pretty good habit to acquire.This is some good advice and I've been thinking about asking her these same questions. Small talk is all I really have time for whenever I get the chance to talk to her because we're always busy. Also some other info about her is that she's beautiful, has nice hips, keeps to herself, and is rather shy. She doesn't seem like a social person because I usually see her walk by herself and talk to 1 or 2 other girls that she works with.The girl that works in my department who used to work in hers told me that she is single too.i gave you good advice bitch and you didn't like my postfuck you
Quote from: TBlocks on February 01, 2018, 05:11:05 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 01, 2018, 04:50:09 PMOn top of all of that and to your point about the first 2 points just being good things to develop in the first place, learning to listen is another great tool for general use. Paraphrasing is a good way to do this. Asking questions is another great way to get anyone talking. An interesting sort of thing is that people love talking about themselves. So asking questions (without sounding like you're interrogating them of course) is a great way to keep up conversation. "How was work today?" "Oh that's good / bad, that must've felt pretty ________. What did you say to them?" stuff like that. An advantage to this is that if she starts asking questions about you and stuff you're doing it's a decent indicator she might be interested.Also just in general listening is a pretty good habit to acquire.This is some good advice and I've been thinking about asking her these same questions. Small talk is all I really have time for whenever I get the chance to talk to her because we're always busy. Also some other info about her is that she's beautiful, has nice hips, keeps to herself, and is rather shy. She doesn't seem like a social person because I usually see her walk by herself and talk to 1 or 2 other girls that she works with.The girl that works in my department who used to work in hers told me that she is single too.
Quote from: Luciana on February 01, 2018, 04:50:09 PMOn top of all of that and to your point about the first 2 points just being good things to develop in the first place, learning to listen is another great tool for general use. Paraphrasing is a good way to do this. Asking questions is another great way to get anyone talking. An interesting sort of thing is that people love talking about themselves. So asking questions (without sounding like you're interrogating them of course) is a great way to keep up conversation. "How was work today?" "Oh that's good / bad, that must've felt pretty ________. What did you say to them?" stuff like that. An advantage to this is that if she starts asking questions about you and stuff you're doing it's a decent indicator she might be interested.Also just in general listening is a pretty good habit to acquire.
Verb you ever think you might have depression but your personality refuses to place yourself in such a bad light?
How do I boost my confidence
