the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
The Punisher doesn't kill innocents
Quote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has he
they're both trash
The Punisher doesn't kill innocents.But anyway here's a scenario I've pondered for a bit: the Joker and Rorschach are chained up on opposite side of a table and can do nothing but talk to each other. Who breaks first?
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.
they're both trashthe ends never justify the means, the means must justify themselves
I can root for the Punisher because he has a clear goal and morals, he isn't a total maniac that kills for the sake to kill, he knows what to do and how to do it. And don't equate the killing of those who do evil to others: the killers, rapists, psychos and sadists; with the death of real innocents that are slaughtered by the Joker. Killing isn't the answer, but I will shed no tears for the death of the scum of the Earth.
Quote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:04:35 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.Maybe he doesn't see it as evil? Maybe it's a high price for good that so far only he's willing to pay?
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 01:09:05 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:04:35 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.Maybe he doesn't see it as evil? Maybe it's a high price for good that so far only he's willing to pay?What good does poisoning children and blowing up hospitals do?
Quote from: Avatar Korra on October 03, 2017, 01:07:20 AMI can root for the Punisher because he has a clear goal and morals, he isn't a total maniac that kills for the sake to kill, he knows what to do and how to do it. And don't equate the killing of those who do evil to others: the killers, rapists, psychos and sadists; with the death of real innocents that are slaughtered by the Joker. Killing isn't the answer, but I will shed no tears for the death of the scum of the Earth.Consider it possible that possibly the Joker wants to see the societal system that allows these injustices torn down. To get those who turn a blind eye "in the game."
Quote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:13:15 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 01:09:05 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:04:35 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.Maybe he doesn't see it as evil? Maybe it's a high price for good that so far only he's willing to pay?What good does poisoning children and blowing up hospitals do?To show how the system we have in place creates these tragedies.
I am not saying he's right. I am saying that he's not so different than the Punisher. The only difference is the scope. One aims at the people involved. The other aims at the system which decides who's involved
Quote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:13:15 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 01:09:05 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:04:35 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.Maybe he doesn't see it as evil? Maybe it's a high price for good that so far only he's willing to pay?What good does poisoning children and blowing up hospitals do?To show how the system we have in place creates these tragedies. I am not saying he's right. I am saying that he's not so different than the Punisher. The only difference is the scope. One aims at the people involved. The other aims at the system which decides who's involved
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 01:17:39 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:13:15 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 01:09:05 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 01:04:35 AMQuote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 03, 2017, 12:58:45 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on October 03, 2017, 12:52:20 AMThe Punisher doesn't kill innocents To the Joker's POV, neither has heHe knows what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.Maybe he doesn't see it as evil? Maybe it's a high price for good that so far only he's willing to pay?What good does poisoning children and blowing up hospitals do?To show how the system we have in place creates these tragedies.The Joker creates those tragedies, not the "system". Half of Gotham's problems wouldn't exist if he wasn't around to make them.QuoteI am not saying he's right. I am saying that he's not so different than the Punisher. The only difference is the scope. One aims at the people involved. The other aims at the system which decides who's involvedThe Punisher does evil things to evil people because it's how he copes with his losses. The Joker does evil things to innocent people because he's the Joker, and trying to rationalize his actions defeats the purpose of the character.
How can you root for the Punisher and not Joker?
