Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good one
"tranny" is a slur, fuckheads
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:08:13 PM"What is context?"something that is abused to justify using words that shouldn't ever be usedQuoteOne has an obvious level of malice implied, the other obviously does not. Similarly, I say 'nigga' a lot because that's just slang that I use due to growing up in a heavily black area of Houston. I would not, however, say, "yes, well, let's look at these statistics that show the crime levels of whites and niggers in juxtaposition."there is no logic in using a word that was once intended for malice in a non-malicious contextthere's no pointwhy do it
"What is context?"
One has an obvious level of malice implied, the other obviously does not. Similarly, I say 'nigga' a lot because that's just slang that I use due to growing up in a heavily black area of Houston. I would not, however, say, "yes, well, let's look at these statistics that show the crime levels of whites and niggers in juxtaposition."
Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:06:36 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:05:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:03:35 PMyou can reclaim words, niggaughwell yeah, that's a hypocrisy of cindy's actually>gets offended by slurs>uses "nigga" all the time>is whiteyou're all fucking idiotswhy don't we just recognize that words are fucking words and stop flipping our shit anytime someone spouts a collection of syllables"I failed my high school history classes and have no idea how language can contribute to dehumanization."
Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:05:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:03:35 PMyou can reclaim words, niggaughwell yeah, that's a hypocrisy of cindy's actually>gets offended by slurs>uses "nigga" all the time>is whiteyou're all fucking idiotswhy don't we just recognize that words are fucking words and stop flipping our shit anytime someone spouts a collection of syllables
Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:03:35 PMyou can reclaim words, niggaughwell yeah, that's a hypocrisy of cindy's actually>gets offended by slurs>uses "nigga" all the time>is whiteyou're all fucking idiots
you can reclaim words, nigga
Quote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good oneNeither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinamanAnd yet, there they are
Why continue giving power to a word that should be dead by now?
Except I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good oneNeither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinamanAnd yet, there they areLOLdid you seriously call "faggot" a slurbecause it's not any moretranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listed
Quote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PMExcept I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak "Look, I'm not referring to my black, gay friend as, 'that faggot-ass nigger' in an OFFENSIVE way! He just needs to learn to be less thin-skinned! Also, I've never faced any type of prejudice and cannot comment on what it feels like to be treated as a 'lesser' member of society, but I'll pretend that I know anyways so I don't have to be considerate!"
Quote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:11:18 PMWhy continue giving power to a word that should be dead by now?not a bad point, but it fails to address the question i askedwould it not be preferable to never use the word at all instead of changing its meaning
Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:12:14 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good oneNeither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinamanAnd yet, there they areLOLdid you seriously call "faggot" a slurbecause it's not any moretranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listedPlease, I'd love to hear how they can't.
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:12:54 PMQuote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PMExcept I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak "Look, I'm not referring to my black, gay friend as, 'that faggot-ass nigger' in an OFFENSIVE way! He just needs to learn to be less thin-skinned! Also, I've never faced any type of prejudice and cannot comment on what it feels like to be treated as a 'lesser' member of society, but I'll pretend that I know anyways so I don't have to be considerate!""What is context?"your logic is falling apart on its own ass
But to do that would be to push it away and not address it at allWhat happens in a 1OO years?Will we continue to "ban" it?Because that would just be like holding it over their heads for the rest of time
Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:14:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:12:54 PMQuote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PMExcept I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak "Look, I'm not referring to my black, gay friend as, 'that faggot-ass nigger' in an OFFENSIVE way! He just needs to learn to be less thin-skinned! Also, I've never faced any type of prejudice and cannot comment on what it feels like to be treated as a 'lesser' member of society, but I'll pretend that I know anyways so I don't have to be considerate!""What is context?"your logic is falling apart on its own assIt's really notIf my gay, black friend was perfectly fine with me calling him "faggot-ass nigger" to his face, then I don't think there'd be a single thing wrong with that. However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.And etc etc same for tranny and blah blah blah. My friend can call me tranny all he wants, but I'll fuckin' crack a board over his head if that's how he starts referring to me towards other people.
This thread isn't long for this world so I might as well throw something in.On MLP: Ain't got a clue why grown men enjoy a show specifically designed for young girls.On Trannies: I'm shortening it because I'm too lazy to spell out the whole word, fite me. But isn't it technically a mental abnormality? When diverging from the usual XY and XX chromosomes and basing your gender on your feelings is that not against nature and biology? Sure humans defy nature regularly but we can only go so far before something fucks up royally, and that seems to be starting in the general vicinity of sex and reproduction. Homosexuals, trans, downies, ect. I don't have anything against their existence and their lives should not be excluded from everyone else's, but I'm certainly not for prolonged promotion of mental disability/abnormalities. Such things most likely will and should slowly breed out of the gene pool.SpoilerI'm going to be fucked for this post
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:16:22 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:14:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:12:54 PMQuote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PMExcept I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak "Look, I'm not referring to my black, gay friend as, 'that faggot-ass nigger' in an OFFENSIVE way! He just needs to learn to be less thin-skinned! Also, I've never faced any type of prejudice and cannot comment on what it feels like to be treated as a 'lesser' member of society, but I'll pretend that I know anyways so I don't have to be considerate!""What is context?"your logic is falling apart on its own assIt's really notIf my gay, black friend was perfectly fine with me calling him "faggot-ass nigger" to his face, then I don't think there'd be a single thing wrong with that. However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.And etc etc same for tranny and blah blah blah. My friend can call me tranny all he wants, but I'll fuckin' crack a board over his head if that's how he starts referring to me towards other people.Context.
Let me just say this SecondClassDo you see it wrong when you see a perfectly feminine woman doing construction work?What is that called? That woman would be called a strong independent woman from first glance. A woman would also never get a second glance for watching a boys show like Adventure Time or Regular Show.HOWEVER.When a man is seeing as a fashion designer, they are always seen as gay. Even when some aren't. (Yes, a lot of them are openly gay but not all.) These men are also never taken seriously unless with women or other designers/models. THEN when a man watches a girl's show, they are right away seen as gay, transsexual or not manly.DO I SEE A BIAS HERE?'
Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:17:19 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:16:22 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:14:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:12:54 PMQuote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PMExcept I'm not using it in an offensive wayTo ban words like that is to accept their inherent offensiveness so to speak "Look, I'm not referring to my black, gay friend as, 'that faggot-ass nigger' in an OFFENSIVE way! He just needs to learn to be less thin-skinned! Also, I've never faced any type of prejudice and cannot comment on what it feels like to be treated as a 'lesser' member of society, but I'll pretend that I know anyways so I don't have to be considerate!""What is context?"your logic is falling apart on its own assIt's really notIf my gay, black friend was perfectly fine with me calling him "faggot-ass nigger" to his face, then I don't think there'd be a single thing wrong with that. However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.And etc etc same for tranny and blah blah blah. My friend can call me tranny all he wants, but I'll fuckin' crack a board over his head if that's how he starts referring to me towards other people.Context.Yes, that's...what I'm talking about.Are you trying to argue against me by saying the word that is the standpoint of my argument?
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:14:03 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:12:14 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good oneNeither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinamanAnd yet, there they areLOLdid you seriously call "faggot" a slurbecause it's not any moretranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listedPlease, I'd love to hear how they can't.Because those other derogatory terms are racist, and are much more stigmatized by our society.
However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.
Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:12:09 PMLet me just say this SecondClassDo you see it wrong when you see a perfectly feminine woman doing construction work?What is that called? That woman would be called a strong independent woman from first glance. A woman would also never get a second glance for watching a boys show like Adventure Time or Regular Show.HOWEVER.When a man is seeing as a fashion designer, they are always seen as gay. Even when some aren't. (Yes, a lot of them are openly gay but not all.) These men are also never taken seriously unless with women or other designers/models. THEN when a man watches a girl's show, they are right away seen as gay, transsexual or not manly.DO I SEE A BIAS HERE?'Occupation has no bearing on your gender identity, IMO. I don't see male fashion designers as anything but stylish. No, its how you act and feel that I think determines it more than anything else. Adventure Time and Regular Show aren't boys shows. MLP is a girls show.
Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:15:31 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:14:03 PMQuote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:12:14 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PMQuote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM"tranny" is a slur, fuckheadsWell it's not a very good oneNeither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinamanAnd yet, there they areLOLdid you seriously call "faggot" a slurbecause it's not any moretranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listedPlease, I'd love to hear how they can't.Because those other derogatory terms are racist, and are much more stigmatized by our society.Yes, probably because racism hasn't been accepted for a very long time. Homophobia has been accepted partially up until very recently, and transphobia is still HEAVILY predominant within society."Nigger" wasn't looked at as an evil word in 1920's because black people weren't seen as equals in the 1920's. Similarly, "tranny" is pretty common today because transgender/transsexual individuals are more commonly looked at as freaks and oddities than actual people.
Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:18:27 PMHowever, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.whywhat if you're not using it in a negative contextwhy doesn't context matter when referring to him or her to third parties
How can you like MLP and not be a tranny?
