Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm though That's not the impression I'm getting from what Egg's saying thoughOf course it's not criminal, at worst you'd teach her how to properly train and look after your pet
Quote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm though
So like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?
Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm thoughI'm somehow not surprised you of all people are in here.People like their dogs here.
Quote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:29:15 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm thoughI'm somehow not surprised you of all people are in here.People like their dogs here.another one aboard that bandwagon eh
Quote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 01:13:32 PMQuote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:07:51 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 01:04:45 PMQuote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:03:55 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:59:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last postBecause a muzzle can be put on and taken off without causing physical pain to the dog?The pain of removing tape is trivial.And I'm sure the pain of having a dick shoved up its ass is also trivial.I think that'd cause psychological effects that make it non-trivial.So duct taping a dog's mouth shut wouldn't have adverse psychological effects?
Quote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:07:51 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 01:04:45 PMQuote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:03:55 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:59:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last postBecause a muzzle can be put on and taken off without causing physical pain to the dog?The pain of removing tape is trivial.And I'm sure the pain of having a dick shoved up its ass is also trivial.I think that'd cause psychological effects that make it non-trivial.
Quote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 01:04:45 PMQuote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:03:55 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:59:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last postBecause a muzzle can be put on and taken off without causing physical pain to the dog?The pain of removing tape is trivial.And I'm sure the pain of having a dick shoved up its ass is also trivial.
Quote from: Iberian Husky on November 28, 2015, 01:03:55 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:59:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last postBecause a muzzle can be put on and taken off without causing physical pain to the dog?The pain of removing tape is trivial.
Quote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:59:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last postBecause a muzzle can be put on and taken off without causing physical pain to the dog?
Quote from: Luciana on November 28, 2015, 12:58:14 PMQuote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there. What is so awful about restricting it so it can't bark? A muzzle does the same fucking thing yet you consider that humane.also fucking lmao it's hilarious that you imitate verb immediately after my last post
Quote from: eggsalad on November 28, 2015, 12:55:42 PMremoving tape from a dogs face is trivialIt's the fact she put it there in the first place you idiot.Now go back to fetishing over your limb porn and trying to advocate fucking dogs. I don't think anything with regards to animals needs to be taken seriously from you.Like verb said, it's ad hominem but i'll go there.
removing tape from a dogs face is trivial
Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:37:59 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:29:15 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm thoughI'm somehow not surprised you of all people are in here.People like their dogs here.another one aboard that bandwagon ehAll I said is I'm not surprised, put your fangs away. Sorry that stuff didn't surprise me when certain people are in certain threads. My bad, dear.
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 28, 2015, 01:30:27 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm though That's not the impression I'm getting from what Egg's saying thoughOf course it's not criminal, at worst you'd teach her how to properly train and look after your petI think the problem is that people take "this isn't wrong relative to other things we consider acceptable/tolerate" to mean "this is perfectly ok and I would do it myself"I don't agree with what egg has been saying entirely but I'm pretty sure she isn't encouraging this
Quote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:37:59 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:29:15 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm thoughI'm somehow not surprised you of all people are in here.People like their dogs here.another one aboard that bandwagon ehAll I said is I'm not surprised, put your fangs away. Sorry that stuff didn't surprise me when certain people are in certain threads. My bad, dear.yet no statement of lack of surprise at Jaz and others doing their own usual thing as well. Sorry, just seems too convenient that the people willing to entertain controversial opinions are always the ones being called it for it, dear
Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:43:14 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:39:41 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:37:59 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:29:15 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm thoughI'm somehow not surprised you of all people are in here.People like their dogs here.another one aboard that bandwagon ehAll I said is I'm not surprised, put your fangs away. Sorry that stuff didn't surprise me when certain people are in certain threads. My bad, dear.yet no statement of lack of surprise at Jaz and others doing their own usual thing as well. Sorry, just seems too convenient that the people willing to entertain controversial opinions are always the ones being called it for it, dear Well you see, I don't come in here and go 'Oh, look he's in here, I'm not surprised'But for you? Its different. Since the only interactions I've had with you are in this thread, the mess of the last dog related one and 'insert number of how many times the argument comes up in bungle'Honey.
Or waitDo you mean to say Jaz treats everyone like that?
Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:35:33 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 28, 2015, 01:30:27 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm though That's not the impression I'm getting from what Egg's saying thoughOf course it's not criminal, at worst you'd teach her how to properly train and look after your petI think the problem is that people take "this isn't wrong relative to other things we consider acceptable/tolerate" to mean "this is perfectly ok and I would do it myself"I don't agree with what egg has been saying entirely but I'm pretty sure she isn't encouraging thisI think the problem here is that Egg started comparing it to other ways of teaching your pet to stop certain behaviours, which if you're doing it properly, you're using things designed specifically for training your pet. A muzzle is designed for keeping a dog's mouth closed, duct tape isn't, for example. It's not well thought out to just duct tape a dog's mouth closed and the woman should be taught proper ways of teaching her dog.
Quote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:57:17 PMOr waitDo you mean to say Jaz treats everyone like that?No, I'm saying that I'm not surprised you're in this thread. I'm not dismissing you calling it a bandwagon, I'm also not saying they can just go 'you're wrong because you said this in XX thread' I'm simply saying I'm not surprised you're in a thread about a dog, after most interactions I've had with you are when topics about dogs or animals appear. I'm also not surprised its you two arguing. I admit. I'm not even arguing about the topic at hand, since I can see both sides of this, that said, I'm not exactly fond of you, doesn't mean i'm going to try and ram my fist into you because of your opinions.peachplum
Quote from: Fruitcake on November 28, 2015, 01:46:49 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:35:33 PMQuote from: Fruitcake on November 28, 2015, 01:30:27 PMQuote from: Tsirist on November 28, 2015, 01:27:55 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on November 28, 2015, 01:23:29 PMSo like, I'm missing stuff here and I'm not going to read this hailstorm, somebody, in here, thinks what this girl did is 'Okay'?I mean, we don't have people with heads up their buttholes that far already, do we?I'm 99% sure nobody said it was ok.Someone said it wasn't criminal and ignited a firestorm though That's not the impression I'm getting from what Egg's saying thoughOf course it's not criminal, at worst you'd teach her how to properly train and look after your petI think the problem is that people take "this isn't wrong relative to other things we consider acceptable/tolerate" to mean "this is perfectly ok and I would do it myself"I don't agree with what egg has been saying entirely but I'm pretty sure she isn't encouraging thisI think the problem here is that Egg started comparing it to other ways of teaching your pet to stop certain behaviours, which if you're doing it properly, you're using things designed specifically for training your pet. A muzzle is designed for keeping a dog's mouth closed, duct tape isn't, for example. It's not well thought out to just duct tape a dog's mouth closed and the woman should be taught proper ways of teaching her dog.my father (who I do not live with) keeps one of his dogs in a small laundry room almost all the time afaik. This is not how you should keep a pet. But it isn't considered animal cruelty and is done far too often for my liking regardless of the better alternativesI think in that sense these things CAN be compared. It's dumb to do something in a worse manner than you otherwise could, for sure. I don't disagree with you there. I'm saying this isn't criminal but it's not ideal or ok either. I didn't get the impression egg felt too differently from that but maybe I need to reread now because I did disagree with some points/approaches
tbh that's a lot worse because it's longetive, which has a large effect on aggregategiving your dog a slap a handful of times in its training years wont traumatize it
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Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 28, 2015, 05:06:00 PMDogs are annoying and especially the small ones. If I could get away with it I would love to walk down my road with my AK and kill every dog I find to be annoying. Beaners in mexico do that. Do you really wanna be like them?