Quote from: 化粧室はどこですか//~ on June 09, 2017, 12:34:19 AMBut by principle, you now have to say Nolan North and Troy Baker never played any real charactersno i don't, because motion capture proves otherwise"i'm gonna pretend you failed to make this random exception, even though there's no logical reason to assume you're opposed to it!!!!!!!!!!"
But by principle, you now have to say Nolan North and Troy Baker never played any real characters
Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 12:34:32 AMQuote from: Maverick on June 09, 2017, 12:30:33 AMQuote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 12:23:22 AMwoah man, crazy criminal who would rather cause chaos than profitI'd say his obsession with Batman and challenging him is a more defining attribute of most Jokers than the anarchist stuff, which is mainly from the Nolan Joker.so very very uniquehttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools
Quote from: Maverick on June 09, 2017, 12:30:33 AMQuote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 12:23:22 AMwoah man, crazy criminal who would rather cause chaos than profitI'd say his obsession with Batman and challenging him is a more defining attribute of most Jokers than the anarchist stuff, which is mainly from the Nolan Joker.so very very unique
Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 12:23:22 AMwoah man, crazy criminal who would rather cause chaos than profitI'd say his obsession with Batman and challenging him is a more defining attribute of most Jokers than the anarchist stuff, which is mainly from the Nolan Joker.
woah man, crazy criminal who would rather cause chaos than profit
Quote from: 化粧室はどこですか//~ on June 09, 2017, 12:28:35 AMSomeone just point out video game voice acting/motion capture, back Verb into a corner his hubris will force him to defend, and watch him dig himself a holebut mark hamill has never done these things either you fucking idiot, not for this iteration of the jokerdo you ever get tired of saying retarded shit
Someone just point out video game voice acting/motion capture, back Verb into a corner his hubris will force him to defend, and watch him dig himself a hole
Quote from: Verbatim on June 09, 2017, 12:36:44 AMQuote from: 化粧室はどこですか//~ on June 09, 2017, 12:34:19 AMBut by principle, you now have to say Nolan North and Troy Baker never played any real charactersno i don't, because motion capture proves otherwise"i'm gonna pretend you failed to make this random exception, even though there's no logical reason to assume you're opposed to it!!!!!!!!!!"They've done plenty of TV voice acting too but I guess they only really played a character when they did a video game
I'm not criticizing the four tropes I listed, I'm saying the Joker uses them all at face value (without any inkling of a subversion or twist) and uses them badly.
Quote from: Verbatim on June 09, 2017, 12:31:11 AMQuote from: 化粧室はどこですか//~ on June 09, 2017, 12:28:35 AMSomeone just point out video game voice acting/motion capture, back Verb into a corner his hubris will force him to defend, and watch him dig himself a holebut mark hamill has never done these things either you fucking idiot, not for this iteration of the jokerdo you ever get tired of saying retarded shitgo to 1:32 and see testimony from someone at rocksteady saying that he watched Hamill literally become the joker in the sound boothYouTube
relevantAll are great (minus Leto, hated his look/character) in their own ways, but in terms of staying closest to their comic book interpretation, Mark Hamill IS best represented as the Joker.That being said, the comic book version of the Joker would NOT have meshed well with a clearly darker and grittier film that is the Dark Knight. That is why I really cannot compare the two. If you placed them in both the opposite settings, it'd seem so off.
I'd rather they just kill off the Joker completely across all mediums and focus on more interesting villains.
mark hamill is nowhere to be found in this image, and that is why he could never be the best joker
Quote from: Verbatim on June 09, 2017, 12:48:07 AMmark hamill is nowhere to be found in this image, and that is why he could never be the best jokerTwo things1. Keep your semantics to yourself. He provides the voice acting for the cartoon iteration of the Joker for almost every role, much like Kevin Conroy does for Batman (and he's read/seen everything with Batman, so he has a better grasp on his character than most).2. I don't really care about your reasoning/arguments with the others. I'm giving my take on it. If you want to feel you're right and everyone else is wrong, I don't care. I've been down this route with you, and frankly I'd keep it to political discussions where things are less black and white and not rooted in your arbitrary reasoning where you drag people 10 pages on some asinine little thing you're hung up on.
Quote from: Doctor Doom on June 09, 2017, 12:20:30 AMI'd rather they just kill off the Joker completely across all mediums and focus on more interesting villains.dat victor von doom smugness
because of how different voice acting is from regular acting
Quote from: Yang on June 09, 2017, 12:48:25 AMQuote from: Doctor Doom on June 09, 2017, 12:20:30 AMI'd rather they just kill off the Joker completely across all mediums and focus on more interesting villains.dat victor von doom smugnessDoctor Doom isn't a villain though.
"Grey Delisle isn't Azula""Mako isn't Aku""Tom Kenny isn't Spongebob"man verb is dumb
You're so stupid that your insults are kinda reassuring
even regular actors aren't their characters, but not only do they have the voice, they have their physical likeness as well, making them closer to their characters than any voice actor could be
Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 12:43:19 AMI'm not criticizing the four tropes I listed, I'm saying the Joker uses them all at face value (without any inkling of a subversion or twist) and uses them badly.I mean you can make any villain look stupid if you break them down like that.Two-Face: Wow it's just a former good man suffering from split personalitiesGus Fring: Wow it's just a ruthless drug kingpinAnton Chigurh: Wow it's just a psychopathic hitman
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Quote from: Doctor Doom on June 09, 2017, 12:20:30 AMI'd rather they just kill off the Joker completely across all mediums and focus on more interesting villains.this tooyou know you're bad when you're literally a tropewoah man, crazy criminal who would rather cause chaos than profitso unique
Gus Fring: a man who entered the drug business solely to get revenge on those who massacred his lover, but quickly became the monster he had to become to stay afloat in that world. As a contrast to Walter who did it all for himself, Gus literally did it for his (only) family.Anton Chigurh: A force of nature whose role in the story goes beyond basic antagonism and more resembles an inevitable reckoning. Barely a character at all, actually, beyond his physical traits - he's literally an agent of fate. When he violates his purpose near the end of the film and kills Carla Jean out of his own volition, the cosmos punish him for it and take him out of commission.Meanwhile, the Joker is every bit as 2-D as I said. You just admitted it too, by trying to break down other characters instead of doing what I just did and defended your own.
Quote from: Annie on June 09, 2017, 01:00:12 AM"Grey Delisle isn't Azula""Mako isn't Aku""Tom Kenny isn't Spongebob"man verb is dumbof course they're none of those charactersthey're their voicesthat's ITeven regular actors aren't their characters, but not only do they have the voice, they have their physical likeness as well, making them closer to their characters than any voice actor could benot complicated
Has Mark Hamill worked himself into a corner?
