Why the fuck is this forum so obsessed with trannies.
Why
Not always a small request when the one asking is also the one defining "fair,"
Why on earth should we take up a mentally-ill person's perception of him/herself?
Not really the point.
No they aren't. A lot of people are very transphobic, even if they support the cause of transgenderism. That's something people would like to stop, they just want them to be viewed as normal people that aren't some sort of abomination.
You sound like a white man in the 60s talking about blacks being able to sit next to you on the bus, I'm just saying.
You seem extraordinarily misinformed about transgenderism and the issues that people face because of it. Even if it is a mental disease, that doesn't mean the people it affects should for some reason be excluded from society in some way. The only known "Cure" to transgenderism seems to be actually acting on the desires of someone who doesn't feel comfortable in their body through HTR and sexual reassignment surgeries. Do you actually think that trans individuals don't try to purge the thought of wanting to be a different sex from their heads? You don't think they try everything imaginable to convince themselves that they're okay the way they are? Until you've conjured up an actual, tangible method that can make someone perfectly comfortable being their birth sex, the options I listed before are the only ones available that seem to do anything.
Why does this weird double standard exist where we can call, for example, asperger's, a disease, and acknowledge that some things (mostly social cues) are by and large difficult for aspies, but we have to cater to a gender disphoriac's every delusion on the grounds of tolerance?
In 2OO2, 61% of people were ok with transgenders and today it's 77%That's a majority
And I'm very few of the 23% who oppose it or are undecided actually go out and yell at people who look like they're trans
Anybody who opposes a cause and wants something done about it sounds like a white man talking about black people on a bus
Nor do I think they're inferior to me
I disagree with their way of thinking and the acceptance of this thinking
So this attempt to try and paint me as a person who's on the same level as those disgusting white supremacists is bullshit
You seem to be stuck in this mindset that because I disagree with trans people, I'm advocating their harassment
To bully someone who is already suffering is intolerable cruelty I never said anything about excluding them from societyYou're the one bringing that up
And yes they do feel better after treatment but the problem is still thereA little more relieved but still a glaring problem, based on regret research and suicide rateIt fixes it in the same way that putting makeup on an insecure girl makes her feel betterYeah she feels better But she's the insecurity is still there
And I don't have a solutionPerhaps something along the lines of cognitive behavioral therapy But things like HRT and SRS are stopping the search for a cure because they are deemed the cure But really, they just ease the pain
Nazis are people, should we care if they feel like outcasts, too?
On what grounds do they think they deserve what they want, though? Demonstrate to me that they have a right to these things, and I'll change my mind.
Of course they're not completely incapable, but that's besides the point. Their mental illness prevents them from thinking rationally, but only in those areas affected by their illness. I'm sure a kleptomaniac can drive and take out a reasonable insurance policy just fine, but I'd still keep my eyes on him in a department store.
someone with a gender identity disorder will have difficulty forming a rational understanding of his sex.
Are you kidding me Trans people are accepted in America by the majority
There's a difference between accepting somebody, and saying that you're "Okay" with them. You can be supportive of something without being 100% comfortable with the idea. That in itself is a problem.
There's no doubt that the majority of people in the US are probably supportive of their cause, but most of those people likely exhibit some form of subconscious transphobia
You're actively denouncing the fair and rational treatment of an entire group of people, so actually, you're just being a conservative, stingy old man.
I'm not saying we should hate them or harass themOf course they should be treated fairly Everyone should be treated with respect
You very clearly do.
There is no "Way of thinking." Transgenderism is not some typical case of mistaken identity, it's a legitimate problem where an individual is entirely uncomfortable with being their birth sex. They aren't stupid people who can't "Think their way through" this mental condition, it's something that is painful to live with, and there are only so many options available to help them.
No it isn't. You're literally just stuck on tradition.
You're advocating for their exclusion from certain forms of media, which is "Harassment," by some standards. But whatever it is, it's stupid and wrong.
Then stop complaining about trans people being in comics.
Uh, if the insecurity was still there in its entirety, trans people wouldn't bother to undergo the treatments. Clearly it does something.
Uh, no, I assure you that people are still quite eager to find a biological way to prevent this sort of condition. Until then, you're stuck with HTR and SRS. Get use to it.
Nice assumptions thereEven if you support you have to have some transphobiaWhy?Because you just have to have it right
We're not allowed to be ok with them and let them do their own thing anymoreWe jhave to support them
Shame how you actively ignore the things I say regarding treatmentDo you honestly think I want them put them into concentration camps or something
This is what I'm sayingIt's a legit conditionWhich is why I'm so against the movement of people telling them to embrace it and act like it's a fucking virtue
Then transgender started becoming a major issue in America so I listened to some speeches and read news articles (from both sides) and I came to the conclusion that it is a mental disease
I actually used logic and facts to come to my conclusion
"Look children, mental illness is ok and we advocate it"