Had dinner with him tonight. Heated conversation. I asked why he voted for Trump. He said because Hillary was in the pockets if the corporations. I told him tgat Trump was the corporation itself. He just stared at me like that had never occurred to him. It was then I heard an eagle scream. The ground shook and a voice boomed from the sky. YOU'RE FIRED! I saw him walk into the restaurant. He walked up to the hostess and forced a manly kiss on her. He then reached between her legs and grabbed her by the pussy. She actually spread her legs wider and thrust her hips forward so he could grab all of it. He pushed her to the side and walked towards is sniffing. He stopped two tables away where a mexican family was eating. The man at the table was sweating profusely. Trump looked at him with a piercing stare. The man just started to cry. Finally he took his family out promising to build and pay for the wall. All Trump did is mutter under his breath a confident "that's right you will."  Trump began to sniff again. Finally stopping at my table. He looked me in the eyes. I have to say I was both terrified of him and attracted to him. I was confused. He just said: "Liberal?" I nodded yes. Unable to talk. He asked "Will your bleeding heart stop this?" As he pulled a gold plated Desert Eagle from his jacket. He looked to it and then to me, suddenly pointing it near me and firing. I was still alive. Behind me a heard a gurgling "Allahu Ackbar" as a muslim terrorist tried to hold the gaping hole in his neck closed. Trump leaned in close and whispered to him: "There'll be no obamacare to fix that."  He looked to me with disgust.

He walked out without another word.

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He said because Hillary was in the pockets if the corporations. I told him tgat Trump was the corporation itself. He just stared at me like that had never occurred to him.

Just in case you thought this was smart, the problem isn't connections to big business, but them having leverage over the candidate. You could say Trump has complete leverage over himself, but duh, of course he does.

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He said because Hillary was in the pockets if the corporations. I told him tgat Trump was the corporation itself. He just stared at me like that had never occurred to him.

Just in case you thought this was smart, the problem isn't connections to big business, but them having leverage over the candidate.

The problem is both.

Just in case you thought this was smart.

Government has to work with big business (and every other type of business) regardless of who's in charge and how you feel about them, so it's good for them to understand the people involved and the way they operate. Hating big business just for existing isn't smart, just in case you thought it was.

Quote from: Azendac on November 14, 2016, 02:57:05 AM

Hating big business just for existing isn't smart, just in case you thought it was.

It's actually the default position an intelligent person could have. The more you hate big business, the smarter you are. If you don't want big corporations permanently dismantled in favor of small businesses (while burning people like Donald Trump on an inverted cross to set an example), you should consider suicide.

Could you elaborate on this stance?

Quote from: Azendac on November 14, 2016, 03:11:12 AM

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Quote from: Azendac on November 14, 2016, 02:57:05 AM

Hating big business just for existing isn't smart, just in case you thought it was.

It's actually the default position an intelligent person could have. The more you hate big business, the smarter you are. If you don't want big corporations permanently dismantled in favor of small businesses (while burning people like Donald Trump on an inverted cross to set an example), you should consider suicide.

Could you elaborate on this stance?

Corporations should not be able to get "big" in the first place. The only reason they do is because our capitalist system allows for, enables, and encourages it. In America, you're considered a successful person if you have a job that makes you a lot of money. Likewise, a successful business in one that derives and maximizes profits for all its shareholders. But in a better world, the most successful businesses should be the ones that don't just benefit humanity--but the ones that seek to benefit humanity as a primary and solitary goal. They absolutely must not seek to gain wealth, power, or influence.

But profits are all they care about--an ethos bred and enabled by capitalism, a cancer that belongs to no rationally constructed civilization.

The function of businesses should only be to provide for the public valuable, useful, and long-lasting products--nothing more. Fuck competition--if you need any further incentive to benefit humanity than the simple virtue that you are benefiting humanity, then you are the worst kind of person, and you belong at the bottom of the fucking ocean. You work to help make our lives easier, happier, comfier, or more convenient. That's all the incentive you should ever need. If your company exists for any other reason, it should be burned down. Your business doesn't need to be "big" to be successful or valuable.

I actually fully agree that businesses/organizations of any kind should exist for the betterment of the people above all else, I had assumed you were objecting simply to the size and not the underlying implication that only the greediest get that big. Money and power should be used only as a means to the end of improving people's lives, anything else is pointless and not worth our time.

What I will disagree with, is that I don't see incentivizing bad people to do good deeds as being any different from incentivizing good people to do the same deeds, provided you can keep the people in check. Meaning that I accept taking advantage of businessmen's desires to make improvements that wouldn't be done otherwise (not saying good people can't run business, just that they're not as attracted to the field) on the proviso that the government destroys them when they step out of line, since big business can ruin lives without even trying.