Goddamn

Solonoid · November 07, 2019, 06:12:36 PM

I cannot wait to see a gigantic nuclear lizard with a black belt in Judo, and the ability to fire atomic energy blasts out of its mouth fight a gorilla the size of a building, who has the ability to punch planes out of the sky.

Solonoid · November 07, 2019, 06:13:12 PM

King Kong is toast btw

Ingy · November 07, 2019, 08:18:50 PM

It’s like when they put Batman up against literal gods and he wins through the power of being popular except I don’t know anyone that actually likes King Kong

alphy · November 07, 2019, 09:18:40 PM

d k

donkey kong

Jono · November 11, 2019, 12:58:24 AM

We're gonna see them fight and then see them team up to fight another monster. We did it Reddit!

Solonoid · November 11, 2019, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Jono on November 11, 2019, 12:58:24 AM

We're gonna see them fight and then see them team up to fight another monster. We did it Reddit!

that doesn't make any sense

why would godzilla need help with anything

ever

Jono · November 11, 2019, 01:58:41 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on November 11, 2019, 09:30:01 AM

Quote from: Jono on November 11, 2019, 12:58:24 AM
We're gonna see them fight and then see them team up to fight another monster. We did it Reddit!
that doesn't make any sense

why would godzilla need help with anything

ever

Because the studio wants to send both parties home happy but if that happens I'm walking out of the movie.

However if we see DESTOROYAH given the events of Godzilla: King of the Monsters, I'll be somewhat satisfied.

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Onion · November 26, 2019, 10:15:30 AM

munkey

Ian · November 26, 2019, 12:57:07 PM

Jono/Solonoid

Thoughts on this quote from another forum I browse?

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Is the delay that surprising?
Warner Brothers know they have a financial bomb on their hands.
Now WB's move of DUNE: VOL 1 from Thanksgiving 2020 to Christmas 2020 makes much more sense.
Had the movie stuck with its March release date it would have had to compete against a new Pixar movie, the sequel to A QUIET PLACE & Disney's live action remake of MULAN. GvsK would have had one weekend to recoup it's profit before the world moved on to the next film.
Even at its new Thanksgiving 2020 release date the only hope is the longevity of the holiday season can allow it to play a little longer.
They went into the MonsterVerse all in & what they've learned is that there just isn't an audience across the globe big enough to support Kaiju movies made at the cost of $200+ million production budget & a marketing/global distribution budget of $200 million as well. The hope was these would be films that all come up to or surpass a billion dollars at the box office every film. So far the most successful has crossed 1/2 billion. King of the Monsters didn't even make $400 million worldwide & that movie is one of the most fan-pandering messes ever made.
Warner Brothers has supported the visions of the three filmmakers who have made MonsterVerse films so far & Godzilla: King of the Monsters was the movie Michael Dougherty wanted to make & it was bad & undoubtably lost the studio money. Even with inflation numbers KOTM made less at the box office than Godzilla 1998. I have it on authority Warner Brothers also supported Adam Wingard's vision on this next film.
The MonsterVerse is a noble experiment by Warner Brothers but it's also a failed experiment. Those happen. Godzilla Vs. Kong is getting released because the studio has already put over $200 million into making it but it's the end of the line for this "universe".

I don't necessarily agree on the simple fact that KoTM only really didn't make money because some idiot decided to release it on the same weekend as Aladdin which Disney went ham-fist on advertising for (way more than they did for The Lion King which was way better IMO). KoTM had noticeable flaws but it was hardly a mess of a film.

maverick · November 26, 2019, 02:38:16 PM

It obviously all depends on whether GvK bombs or not but he's probably right. At this point it seems clear that none of these movies will pass a billion dollars, if that's what they were hoping for, so they'll probably just keep developing them one at a time and then stop when another one doesn't make a profit.

Jono · November 26, 2019, 02:42:33 PM

Quote from: Ian on November 26, 2019, 12:57:07 PM

I don't necessarily agree on the simple fact that KoTM only really didn't make money because some idiot decided to release it on the same weekend as Aladdin which Disney went ham-fist on advertising for (way more than they did for The Lion King which was way better IMO). KoTM had noticeable flaws but it was hardly a mess of a film.

KoTM was a Toho movie with an American paint job thrown over it so it's going to have the silliness and ridiculousness of what Toho films offer but Americanized. The modern casual audience isn't going to realize that and the only Godzilla films they've most likely seen are the shitty '98 movie and Godzilla '14 so they expect this movie to be on par with modern classics.

The plot was one thing people complained about but in a franchise that has 30 films and has been around for half a century, it's difficult to come up with something new and original. The plot did not bother me as there have been more hilarious plotlines in Godzilla films before that make no sense like Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla vs Gigan, and the first Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla. And hell, the original movie's concept has been remade like 4 times by now.

The human characters are also another complaint with KoTM, but come on. Name me ONE human character from any Toho Godzilla movie people gave a shit about and actually remember the name other than Miki Saegusa from the Heisei Era. People want better humans but if we get that, they'll complain there wasn't enough monsters. Godzilla vs Kong can be 2 hours of just both of them fighting with 0 humans at all and people will still complain that "there wasn't any humans for me to care about!" even they got what they asked for in more monster action.

KoTM didn't perform as well as we thought. The movie was going to release in early 2019, and that would have been fine and probably for the better, but they ended up pushing the movie back to attempt to compete with the juggernaut that is Disney and that backfired. People were fatigued from that movie season we had from April-July and that impacted KoTM.

Also something that I see NOBODY talk about when it comes to modern Godzilla that is a problem is the generational gap. Me, you, and other kaiju fans grew up around watching Godzilla movies on TV or renting them from Blockbuster and we had the PS2 and Xbox games to play when no other Godzilla media was available. Access to Godzilla was easy and everyone in our age gap enjoyed it.

Kids nowadays have no Godzilla games, no stores to rent Godzilla movies, and are growing up watching The Avengers and other Marvel/DC movies rather than watching Godzilla like we did.

Ian · November 27, 2019, 07:35:14 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on November 07, 2019, 06:12:36 PM

Quote from: Jono on November 11, 2019, 12:58:24 AM

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