Quote from: Snake on July 31, 2017, 12:48:02 PM

Oh yeah Euron is a shit character.

Euron Thotslayer is the only character left that isn't a cuck.

Sandor the Mandor?

Quote from: Iberian Husky on July 31, 2017, 08:37:28 PM

Quote from: Snake on July 31, 2017, 12:48:02 PM

Oh yeah Euron is a shit character.

Euron Thotslayer is the only character left that isn't a cuck.

You're autistic.

He's right you know.

Quote from: Mint on August 01, 2017, 12:59:32 AM

He's right you know.

Fantastic, another alt-right anime queer. Just what we need.

lmao

When Jon was talking about the White Walkers, why didn't Tyrion tell Dany about Ser Alliser going to Kings Landing and talking about the same thing? It still wouldn't have moved her but it still would be worth bringing up since another person from the Knights Watch went all that way to tell their tale.

'cause it's a dumb thing to bring up

Quote from: Mattie G Indahouse on July 31, 2017, 07:39:49 PM

When Jon was talking about the White Walkers, why didn't Tyrion tell Dany about Ser Alliser going to Kings Landing and talking about the same thing? It still wouldn't have moved her but it still would be worth bringing up since another person from the Knights Watch went all that way to tell their tale.

'cause it's a dumb thing to bring up

and also because Tyrion doesn't like Alliser Thorne very much, to the point where he just ignored him in King's Landing and the wight hand he brought as proof rotted away

Euron is one of the only reasons to watch the show anymore. Embrace the memes my friends, for they are our last hope.

supposedly this is a leaked script of episode 4, from HBO being hacked
http://i.imgur.com/udAnfWG.png

Quote from: Desty on August 01, 2017, 01:29:06 AM

Quote from: Mattie G Indahouse on July 31, 2017, 07:39:49 PM

When Jon was talking about the White Walkers, why didn't Tyrion tell Dany about Ser Alliser going to Kings Landing and talking about the same thing? It still wouldn't have moved her but it still would be worth bringing up since another person from the Knights Watch went all that way to tell their tale.

'cause it's a dumb thing to bring up

and also because Tyrion doesn't like Alliser Thorne very much, to the point where he just ignored him in King's Landing and the wight hand he brought as proof rotted away

Yes Tyrion hates him, but he also likes Jon. He knew Throne went to Kings Landing to talk about the "Dead Rising" so he should have brought that up to give Jon a small bit of credibility. It's nothing more than shitty writing due to the writers thinking the viewers are too dumb to remember anything from the first season. It's the same reason why "Little Fingers dagger" was never brought up again and Tyrion's wife is forgotten.

The more I think about how Olenna Tyrell and her army got dealt with in such a quick and easy way, the dumber this whole show seems to me. "Fighting never was our forte". So how were they ever valued as a military ally in the previous seasons if they could just be destroyed using zero effort. Despite the fact that Jaime had to siege one of the major castles in the show, he still manages to get it done immediately and presumably without any loss to his army. It seems like the sizes of everyone's armies are being left intentionally vague and undefined so that stuff like this can keep happening regardless of logic. Cersei is just going to keep implausibly gaining the upper hand to increase the "drama", until Daenerys inevitably wins in the end despite all odds.

Quote from: A Cheese Potato on August 01, 2017, 01:39:14 AM

Quote from: Desty on August 01, 2017, 01:29:06 AM

Quote from: Mattie G Indahouse on July 31, 2017, 07:39:49 PM

When Jon was talking about the White Walkers, why didn't Tyrion tell Dany about Ser Alliser going to Kings Landing and talking about the same thing? It still wouldn't have moved her but it still would be worth bringing up since another person from the Knights Watch went all that way to tell their tale.

'cause it's a dumb thing to bring up

and also because Tyrion doesn't like Alliser Thorne very much, to the point where he just ignored him in King's Landing and the wight hand he brought as proof rotted away

Yes Tyrion hates him, but he also likes Jon. He knew Throne went to Kings Landing to talk about the "Dead Rising" so he should have brought that up to give Jon a small bit of credibility. It's nothing more than shitty writing due to the writers thinking the viewers are too dumb to remember anything from the first season. It's the same reason why "Little Fingers dagger" was never brought up again and Tyrion's wife is forgotten.

Yeah you have some sort of problem. Maybe you're on the spectrum, or maybe you stopped growing normally due to bullying or something, but the way you think just isn't right. It's too direct, and doesn't see the whole picture, or small consequences.

Quote from: maverick on August 02, 2017, 09:05:44 PM

The more I think about how Olenna Tyrell and her army got dealt with in such a quick and easy way, the dumber this whole show seems to me. "Fighting never was our forte". So how were they ever valued as a military ally in the previous seasons if they could just be destroyed using zero effort. Despite the fact that Jaime had to siege one of the major castles in the show, he still manages to get it done immediately and presumably without any loss to his army. It seems like the sizes of everyone's armies are being left intentionally vague and undefined so that stuff like this can keep happening regardless of logic. Cersei is just going to keep implausibly gaining the upper hand to increase the "drama", until Daenerys inevitably wins in the end despite all odds.

I figured the main bulk of the Tyrell's were with Dany on Dragonstone at the time. They could've literally just said that and I wouldn't have had a problem with it, but for some reason DABID had to go with "the Tyrell's are essentially just pussies lmao".

Even then, there's no rationality behind taking a fortified castle in a day, army or no army. I can buy the whole "learning from our mistakes with Robb Stark" tactical move but storming a castle within the space of a couple scene transitions just reeks of bullshittery.

BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MANY EPISODES LEFT JUST DONT THINK ABOUT IT

No all the episodes don't take place in the same timeframe anymore so that excuses any time disrepancy there is.

The more I think about how Olenna Tyrell and her army got dealt with in such a quick and easy way, the dumber this whole show seems to me. "Fighting never was our forte". So how were they ever valued as a military ally in the previous seasons if they could just be destroyed using zero effort. Despite the fact that Jaime had to siege one of the major castles in the show, he still manages to get it done immediately and presumably without any loss to his army. It seems like the sizes of everyone's armies are being left intentionally vague and undefined so that stuff like this can keep happening regardless of logic. Cersei is just going to keep implausibly gaining the upper hand to increase the "drama", until Daenerys inevitably wins in the end despite all odds.

For the attack on The Rock we seen the Unsullied storming it, for Jaime on the other hand we just seen his army marching up to it. There weren't any battles scenes so off screen Jaime would have taken losses. Now for his army in that marching scene, I'm thinking they were separated into groups for attacking High Garden on all fronts. The seen with Jaime in it is just the group he was with. So the total amount of soldiers off screen was larger than the group of soldiers we seen on screen.

So do the Lannisters control the entire reach now after taking over Highgarden?

The more I think about how Olenna Tyrell and her army got dealt with in such a quick and easy way, the dumber this whole show seems to me. "Fighting never was our forte". So how were they ever valued as a military ally in the previous seasons if they could just be destroyed using zero effort. Despite the fact that Jaime had to siege one of the major castles in the show, he still manages to get it done immediately and presumably without any loss to his army. It seems like the sizes of everyone's armies are being left intentionally vague and undefined so that stuff like this can keep happening regardless of logic. Cersei is just going to keep implausibly gaining the upper hand to increase the "drama", until Daenerys inevitably wins in the end despite all odds.

I don't think it was necessarily the Tyrells themselves that were a great military strength.  Mace rode the coattails of Randyll Tarly's victories, and the Tyrells pretty much just have food and gold to their name.  The real power is with Tarly (and, in the books at least, House Hightower), though I think he was wayyy too eager to switch sides.  I know in the books he may be getting pissed off from Mace snubbing him and stealing the glory for his battles, so the books have at least that going for them.

Show Tarly..he just kind of agrees to side with the Lannisters.

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on August 04, 2017, 06:08:17 PM

I don't think it was necessarily the Tyrells themselves that were a great military strength.  Mace rode the coattails of Randyll Tarly's victories, and the Tyrells pretty much just have food and gold to their name.  The real power is with Tarly (and, in the books at least, House Hightower).

Tarly is known for being a great commander, not containing an essential portion of the Tyrell army, which in the books is by far the largest army in the realm. Logically speaking the liege lord would make up the largest portion of the kingdom's army or else they probably wouldn't be the liege lord. To believe that the army is effectively useless without Randyll is a pretty big leap but I might be willing to look past it if they had bothered to give this as an explanation. As it is, this is some of the most Dabid-tier writing the show has ever done imo.

True, so unless they say that Olenna left some forces with Dany while keeping a sort of Honor Guard for herself, and Highgarden's defenses just being common levies with very few experienced fighters then they pretty much just brushed the Tyrells away with a whimper, which is pretty disappointing.