Yeah, that was wrong of me. For one, Turkey's already provided that LPers have basically no right to fair use; honestly, if FROM wished to, I doubt that there's anything you could do to prevent a takedown. The persistence of Let's Play channels rely on the copyright owners either granting sponsorship or not choosing invoke their rights as the copyright holder.
But in raising plagiarism, I do have to ask: is accidental plagiarism not a plausible argument? I can't say whether or not she didn't intentionally create the misconception that she herself recorded the video clips, but not citing the source is a form of plagiarism. If it isn't, in this instance, could you explain why so?
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 08, 2016, 05:17:18 PMYeah, that was wrong of me. For one, Turkey's already provided that LPers have basically no right to fair use; honestly, if FROM wished to, I doubt that there's anything you could do to prevent a takedown. The persistence of Let's Play channels rely on the copyright owners either granting sponsorship or not choosing invoke their rights as the copyright holder.exactlyexcept for one thing--commentaries, as far as i know, are indeed protected, and that's what my videos arei don't show a substantial amount of content in my videos, and i certainly don't profit from the videosso i beg to differ with turkey one that one, but in terms of from's right to take my videos down, it's arguable that they'd be within their right, and i wouldn't really have much to say about it
Even if it isn't the case that there is absolutely zero legal reason for why she should cite the source of her video, no matter how obscure it be, I still hold that she morally ought to credit the source.It takes a few minutes, at most, to rig layer simple lines of text to display over the first few seconds of the clips. There's no reason why not to, and being a nice person is the most obvious reason to do so.
Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
Quote from: Prime Kruphix on May 08, 2016, 05:26:40 PMBut in raising plagiarism, I do have to ask: is accidental plagiarism not a plausible argument? I can't say whether or not she didn't intentionally create the misconception that she herself recorded the video clips, but not citing the source is a form of plagiarism. If it isn't, in this instance, could you explain why so?Plagiarism is the theft of someone's ideas or style -- copyright infringement is the theft of their content. If she stole someone's clips (by claiming them as her own or exceeding fair use criteria), that'd be copyright infringement. If she stole someone's published arguments about feminism in video games, or their style of video or mannerisms, etc, and it wasn't in a satirical capacity, that'd be plagiarism. So if she had (knowingly, and defining that can be a whole other can of worms) used an argument made by someone else in a video, then that's plagiarism.
Quote from: Mordo on May 08, 2016, 05:30:26 PMWhere's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I don't think it was snarky or passive aggressive. I bluntly told him that he was wrong and didn't know what he was talking about in regards to citation and fair use. Sorry? I had to respond to what seemed like a dozen identical posts riddled with the same misconceptions. To anyone that was offended by my bluntness: just get over it, I guess. You know that I don't mean anything personally or insultingly and I would never lose respect for someone for participating in any side of a discussion.
maybe you should just stop hating women
Not really offended, just perplexed by your behaviour. I mean, I don't give a fuck one way or the other what you think and how you respond to people, I guess I just expected a bit more intellectual rigour and a little less condescension from you.
Quote from: HollowedTurkey on May 08, 2016, 05:45:40 PMwhat do you make of the point i brought up about LPs being commentaries, thoughdoes it even matteri was completely with you up until you mentioned that--i think some (not all) LPs are protected, but i could be incorrect
Quote from: HollowedTurkey on May 08, 2016, 05:15:38 PMWhere's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
It's YouTube. They do this all the time because they have no official terms of service. They need to sort that out, because it's unfair to so many people. Both hated, loved, and small time starting out.It'll be back up soon.
http://vicsorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html?m=1Here's an earlier piece on her stealing other peoples let's plays, also some bonus stuff about her using other peoples artwork to promote herself without the artists permission.I'll have to see if u can dig up the social media compilation for the other stuff. Not really interested on doing that on a phone.
Quote from: LC on May 08, 2016, 06:46:20 PMhttp://vicsorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html?m=1Here's an earlier piece on her stealing other peoples let's plays, also some bonus stuff about her using other peoples artwork to promote herself without the artists permission.I'll have to see if u can dig up the social media compilation for the other stuff. Not really interested on doing that on a phone.I've already posted this fgt.