Fate/Hollow Ataraxia OPs Are Out

big sponge · November 30, 2014, 04:07:09 AM

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For those of you who follow the franchise, Ufotable is saying that a Hollow Ataraxia anime adaptation is a sure thing if Unlimited Blade Works does well. So hopefully the BD sales do well so we can get a full adaptation instead of these cock teases.

Gibbe the entire scene that OP2 is showing plz Ufotable.

challengerX · November 30, 2014, 04:10:05 AM

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big sponge · November 30, 2014, 04:13:32 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 30, 2014, 04:10:05 AM

wat

Ufotable recently did a remaster of Fate/Hollow Ataraxia for Type-Moon and included some animated openings for the visual novel. They're basically cock teases for an anime adaptation that may happen if their current adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works does well.

challengerX · November 30, 2014, 04:15:49 AM

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Girl of Mystery · November 30, 2014, 04:48:58 AM

Fucking weebs

DAS B00T x2 · November 30, 2014, 10:14:22 AM

Neat.
I still need to finish Ataraxia though.

Elegiac · November 30, 2014, 10:17:31 AM

indeed.

Mr. Psychologist · November 30, 2014, 10:22:06 AM

Well if it doesn't take them two years to release the whole thing on bluray, then I'll be picking it up quite quickly >.>

Although I sort of need to get the F/0 ones first <.<
And the books >.>

True Turquoise · November 30, 2014, 10:31:00 AM

Like 3 people 'follow' it

Mat Cauthon · November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM

Eh.
I'm probably done with Nasuverse once the Fate movie comes out.
I found KnK to be unnecessarily convoluted and I though only two of the seven movies worth my time.

On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.

Comet · November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM

On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.

story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...

Mat Cauthon · November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...

The animation is the only thing keeping me.

Juuzou · November 30, 2014, 12:39:46 PM

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Comet · November 30, 2014, 12:57:43 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...
The animation is the only thing keeping me.

i agree that the story telling is weaker then Fate/Zero, as of ep 9 anyway. what about it is off-putting?

True Turquoise · November 30, 2014, 01:02:33 PM

Quote from: The First Noelle on November 30, 2014, 12:39:46 PM

Is that Fate series worth watching? I believe that is the one that Ian's shitty waifu is from.

Zero is.
if you like good story and amazing looking fights.

Coughing coughycough fatesnisshitcoughycough

Mat Cauthon · November 30, 2014, 01:08:12 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:57:43 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...
The animation is the only thing keeping me.
i agree that the story telling is weaker then Fate/Zero, as of ep 9 anyway. what about it is off-putting?

I just find the story over all to be quite weak.

Spoiler

This huge magical event is happening and the grail just picks three highschool kids from the same area?
That alone is full of shit, I don't really care for the reasoning, Waver, Melloi, the Einzberns and the randomer Ryuunosuke got in on the action last time. A diverse set of people.

Kirei, Saber and Ilya all know the name Emiya, yet none of them mention that to Shirou.

I find the convictions of the characters to be really weak, not that others in Zero, for example Waver, didn't have weak convictions or goals, but we were made believe them and saw growth of some sort.
The only growth we're getting now is Shorous cock whenever Rin and Saber are onscreen.

big sponge · November 30, 2014, 02:24:08 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 01:08:12 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...
The animation is the only thing keeping me.
i agree that the story telling is weaker then Fate/Zero, as of ep 9 anyway. what about it is off-putting?
I just find the story over all to be quite weak.
Spoiler
This huge magical event is happening and the grail just picks three highschool kids from the same area?
That alone is full of shit, I don't really care for the reasoning, Waver, Melloi, the Einzberns and the randomer Ryuunosuke got in on the action last time. A diverse set of people.

Kirei, Saber and Ilya all know the name Emiya, yet none of them mention that to Shirou.

I find the convictions of the characters to be really weak, not that others in Zero, for example Waver, didn't have weak convictions or goals, but we were made believe them and saw growth of some sort.
The only growth we're getting now is Shorous cock whenever Rin and Saber are onscreen.

Brah, Fate/Stay Night and all of its routes are really hard to adapt. Mainly because most of Shirou's development happens with internal monologue along with the explanations for many of his actions. Shirou is at his core a broken human being with a severe case of PTSD that resulted from the ending of Fate/Zero. He literally can not be happy unless he aiding someone else as he has a severe case of survivors guilt as well.

It also explains a lot about the current grail war that wasn't even supposed to happen. The Tohsakas, Mautos and Einzberns will always be chosen for the war as they're the ones who created the ritual. The grail wasn't supposed to appear for another 40 years, however because Kerry fucked everything up last time its appeared much sooner and therefore the grail just threw a bunch of people with magical potential together. The only person who's able to make it to the 5th grail war in time to be chosen was Bazzett who was from Ireland, however certain circumstances left her unable to participate. Had the grail appeared when it was supposed to everyone participating would have likely been an adult.

The visual novel explains all of this and more which is why I tell people to read the damn VN. If you've read it you catch all the subtleties in Ufotabls storytelling.

Fate/Zero was half written by Gen Urobochi and half written by Nasu. Unlike Fate/Stay Night though it was written in a way that was much easier to adapt into a film since it didn't rely so much on internal dialogue for character development. Also unlike Zero F/SN very much focuses on a main character since nearly the entire thing is written from Shirou's first person perspective.

Just like KnK there's a lot of information in F/SN that won't be spoonfed to you. You have to do your own dot connecting and you're only getting 1/3rd of the actual story in UBW. The Heavens Feel movie(s) will be giving you another third and if you were in Japan the Fate route would be a free download on mobile devices.

Spoiler

Kara no Kyoukai is pretty straight forward if you're paying attention and doing your own dot connecting. I'm not sure how you can call it convoluted.

True Turquoise · November 30, 2014, 02:26:00 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on November 30, 2014, 02:24:08 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...
The animation is the only thing keeping me.
i agree that the story telling is weaker then Fate/Zero, as of ep 9 anyway. what about it is off-putting?
I just find the story over all to be quite weak.
Spoiler
This huge magical event is happening and the grail just picks three highschool kids from the same area?
That alone is full of shit, I don't really care for the reasoning, Waver, Melloi, the Einzberns and the randomer Ryuunosuke got in on the action last time. A diverse set of people.

Kirei, Saber and Ilya all know the name Emiya, yet none of them mention that to Shirou.

I find the convictions of the characters to be really weak, not that others in Zero, for example Waver, didn't have weak convictions or goals, but we were made believe them and saw growth of some sort.
The only growth we're getting now is Shorous cock whenever Rin and Saber are onscreen.

Brah, Fate/Stay Night and all of its routes are really hard to adapt. Mainly because most of Shirou's development happens with internal monologue along with the explanations for many of his actions. Shirou is at his core a broken human being with a severe case of PTSD that resulted from the ending of Fate/Zero. He literally can not be happy unless he aiding someone else as he has a severe case of survivors guilt as well.

It also explains a lot about the current grail war that wasn't even supposed to happen. The Tohsakas, Mautos and Einzberns will always be chosen for the war as they're the ones who created the ritual. The grail wasn't supposed to appear for another 40 years, however because Kerry fucked everything up last time its appeared much sooner and therefore the grail just threw a bunch of people with magical potential together. The only person who's able to make it to the 5th grail war in time to be chosen was Bazzett who was from Ireland, however certain circumstances left her unable to participate. Had the grail appeared when it was supposed to everyone participating would have likely been an adult.

The visual novel explains all of this and more which is why I tell people to read the damn VN. If you've read it you catch all the subtleties in Ufotabls storytelling.

Fate/Zero was half written by Gen Urobochi and half written by Nasu. Unlike Fate/Stay Night though it was written in a way that was much easier to adapt into a film since it didn't rely so much on internal dialogue for character development. Also unlike Zero F/SN very much focuses on a main character since nearly the entire thing is written from Shirou's first person perspective.

Just like KnK there's a lot of information in F/SN that won't be spoonfed to you. You have to do your own dot connecting and you're only getting 1/3rd of the actual story in UBW. The Heavens Feel movie(s) will be giving you another third and if you were in Japan the Fate route would be a free download on mobile devices.

Spoiler
Kara no Kyoukai is pretty straight forward if you're paying attention and doing your own dot connecting. I'm not sure how you can call it convoluted.

we watch for this

Yu · November 30, 2014, 05:54:27 PM

Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 01:08:12 PM

Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Comet on November 30, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: Sento on November 30, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
On top of that this current adaption is really letting me down compared to what I expected from the quality of Zero.
story telling wise? because i think that UBW has better fight animations...
The animation is the only thing keeping me.
i agree that the story telling is weaker then Fate/Zero, as of ep 9 anyway. what about it is off-putting?
I just find the story over all to be quite weak.
Spoiler
This huge magical event is happening and the grail just picks three highschool kids from the same area?
That alone is full of shit, I don't really care for the reasoning, Waver, Melloi, the Einzberns and the randomer Ryuunosuke got in on the action last time. A diverse set of people.

Kirei, Saber and Ilya all know the name Emiya, yet none of them mention that to Shirou.

I find the convictions of the characters to be really weak, not that others in Zero, for example Waver, didn't have weak convictions or goals, but we were made believe them and saw growth of some sort.
The only growth we're getting now is Shorous cock whenever Rin and Saber are onscreen.

>___>
Well considering I know how you feel about adaptions, as well as how LC considers the adaptations. Let me ask you this.

You seem to believe that an anime adaptation should tell you what you need to know, at least in regards to the story that it tells. However when adapting anything with such an expanded universe, the size of which would be difficult to fully explain anything without fundamentally changing the story for the sake of making it tell the viewer everything or almost everything they need to know.

Is it better to stay true to the original content or change the story as it was told, in order to feed the viewer the knowledge they need to get a better understanding of the story and its contents, even if it means changing the original story as well?

I know that most studios "try" to go for something thats in between, which usually works considering that almost all anime comes from manga, the rest comes from games, VNs, or light novels, original anime being the most rare. Manga and light novels are rather easy to adapt into anime, its just a matter of taking as much of the source material as possible and transferring it into a different medium, usually not a hard task, the rest is filling in the holes that pictures don't show.

Games can be either very easy or a bit tough. Some games like card games give studios a lot of room to tell their own story, as long as long as it goes along with the established universe. Others have actual stories set up, like with rpgs, making them a bit more difficult, as its a matter of taking 40+ hours and putting it into 12 or 24 eps.

VNs can be rather easy considering that most are just romance, although when you take a VN with so much damn content with 3 main routes, and different small sub routes in each. It becomes a bit of a daunting task, more so because the studio rather honor the original content, most of the time anyway, which would more likely please its fans, and get potential fans interested in the game.

Honestly, usually its a matter of source material than anything. However in this case I'd rather see an adaptation more close to the original content, than see a studio try and take their own spin on it and potentially ruin the anime for the long time fans and any newcomers to the series.

Wow, that was a lot.

Yu · November 30, 2014, 05:55:07 PM

These videos please me. I hope it does indeed happen.

True Turquoise · November 30, 2014, 05:55:36 PM

big sponge · November 30, 2014, 06:04:34 PM

Quote from: The First Noelle on November 30, 2014, 12:39:46 PM

Is that Fate series worth watching? I believe that is the one that Ian's shitty waifu is from.

The Nasuverse in General is pretty interesting since everything by Nasu exists in the same universe (or multiverse).

Fate/zero is fine to watch the adaptation of because the light novel lends itself well to adaptation. Ufotables adaptation of Unlimited Blade a Works is also good, but if you're a secondary it might feel a bit weaker than Zero because the visual novel is written in a way that makes it a bitch and a half to make an adaptation of. Fate/Stay Night really is something that should be read and not watched, but you'll at least be able to understand the story although it'll lack a large chunk of depth will be gone due to the lack of Shirou's internal monologues.

This doesn't mean it's bad, but many people who haven't read the source material don't seem to like it as much as Zero. Those who have seem to enjoy it though since they're able to pick up on all the little subtleties of Ufotables story telling in this.

Another Nasuverse series that people like is Kara no Kyoukai which kind of explores the seedy underbelly of the Nasuverse. However if you're a moefag or primarily watch gateway it might be a little jarring since it doesn't spoon feed you everything and expects you to do some of your own dot connecting. There are 8 films and the first 4 are intentionally out of order chronologically, the story was written that way for a reason unlike something like Haruhi that did it for the sole purpose of being unique.

DAS B00T x2 · November 30, 2014, 06:10:52 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on November 30, 2014, 06:04:34 PM

However if you're a moefag - it might be a little jarring since it doesn't spoon feed you everything and expects you to do some of your own dot connecting.

Hey now, some of us are pretty dang bright at times!

s03 · November 30, 2014, 08:01:57 PM

Knowing aniplex the blurays for Unlimited Blade Works will cost a bloody fortune, but I shelled out the cash for both the KnK and Fate/Zero blurays so I will also buy UBW when it eventually gets released.

Also I know nothing about F/HA, what's it actually about? I know it's supposed to be like a sequel or something to F/SN, but I don't really know anything beyond that.

big sponge · November 30, 2014, 08:44:48 PM

Quote from: S0m3W31rd0 on November 30, 2014, 08:01:57 PM

Knowing aniplex the blurays for Unlimited Blade Works will cost a bloody fortune, but I shelled out the cash for both the KnK and Fate/Zero blurays so I will also buy UBW when it eventually gets released.

Also I know nothing about F/HA, what's it actually about? I know it's supposed to be like a sequel or something to F/SN, but I don't really know anything beyond that.

Basically it takes place 6 months after the events of F/SN where the participants of the 5th war along with the entire city of Fuyuki are trapped in a repeating 4 day cycle. Shirou attempts to get to the bottom of this strange phenomenon. Everyone who had a possibility of surviving the 5th war is brought back, including their servants. However no one is quite intent on continuing a war that was already finished.

Meanwhile Bazett awakes to find the servant avenger in her possession and she repeatedly attempts to win her very own grail war within the period of 4 repeating days. Failure means she has to start all over again.

s03 · November 30, 2014, 09:18:19 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on November 30, 2014, 08:44:48 PM

Quote from: S0m3W31rd0 on November 30, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Knowing aniplex the blurays for Unlimited Blade Works will cost a bloody fortune, but I shelled out the cash for both the KnK and Fate/Zero blurays so I will also buy UBW when it eventually gets released.

Also I know nothing about F/HA, what's it actually about? I know it's supposed to be like a sequel or something to F/SN, but I don't really know anything beyond that.

Basically it takes place 6 months after the events of F/SN where the participants of the 5th war along with the entire city of Fuyuki are trapped in a repeating 4 day cycle. Shirou attempts to get to the bottom of this strange phenomenon. Everyone who had a possibility of surviving the 5th war is brought back, including their servants. However no one is quite intent on continuing a war that was already finished.

Meanwhile Bazett awakes to find the servant avenger in her possession and she repeatedly attempts to win her very own grail war within the period of 4 repeating days. Failure means she has to start all over again.

Seems a bit strange but I would assume the repeating cycle thing gets resolved during the story. I will probably give it a read some time soon.